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amisanghavi

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Hi guys..went throught the current few comments for pof rr..i have already raised 1 cse and uploaded loe with bank certificate and fd receipts..do you suggest if i should take some precautionery action looking on the rejection trend for pof and again raise one more cse for pof rr? Experts @tobs, @Prashant86_2000, @cansha, @Micky345, @meany23, @sid1987..
Please help
In loe i explained all fds belong to one account and that is mine..i did not specifically insist that its as good as cash and can be liquidated any time as i thought cic should be aware of it
 

Petra2019

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Most people have FDs, I don't think FDs are a reason for rejection. I am thinking if the FDs had a lock-in period or there was a miscalculation, either on @Petra2019's part or CIC.

And as @Micky345 said, it's a surprisse that, last few rejections have not been issued a Procedural Fairness Letter.

@Petra2019 can you share just the amounts, start date and maturity dates of FDs in your local currency along with their maturity?
Also, did you order GCMS notes? If possible please paste the Agent's recommendations from last pages of your notes?. If you had an RR for POF it should have some indication in their

Sure ..GCMS notes were ordered to date they are 2 weeks late.
 

meany23

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Hi guys..went throught the current few comments for pof rr..i have already raised 1 cse and uploaded loe with bank certificate and fd receipts..do you suggest if i should take some precautionery action looking on the rejection trend for pof and again raise one more cse for pof rr? Experts @tobs, @Prashant86_2000, @cansha, @Micky345, @meany23, @sid1987..
Please help
Experts can confirm this, according to me if you have already raised a CSE and provided all documents then you should wait for them to contact you. But did your bank provide a letter where they mentioned that FD can be broken at any time? Also, what was mentioned in your gcms notes, the reason for rr POF?
 
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meany23

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In loe i explained all fds belong to one account and that is mine..i did not specifically insist that its as good as cash and can be liquidated any time as i thought cic should be aware of it
Wait for everyone else here to confirm if you should raise a CSE again or not. But in case you do keep in mind certain things, it is not obvious for certain case analysts there, about how FD works, every country has different system and case analysts are less experienced. Officers deal with FD situations and are more experienced so they would know that it is as good as cash.
Secondly, please avoid using the words such as FD can be liquidated or it can be broken, and instead write that it is liquid and money can be withdrawn at any point. I'm mentioning this coz it was an advice to me as well, and it'll be good for you in case you raise a CSE again, or if you wanna suggest someone else in near future.
 

amisanghavi

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Experts can confirm this, according to me if you have already raised a CSE and provided all documents then you should wait for them to contact you. But did your bank provide a letter where they mentioned that FD can be broken at any time? Also, what was mentioned in your gcms notes, the reason for rr POF?
my RR was for pof..it stated that my bank certi has mentioned only one savings account no but all the fds have different account nos, so its not clear if those were different account number or different fd nos..so i uploaded loe regarding the same with the help of experts here..along with the letter i uploaded updated bank certi, and fd receipts..
my bank certi mentions that all the amount is free of any liability and can be liquidated any time
 

meany23

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my RR was for pof..it stated that my bank certi has mentioned only one savings account no but all the fds have different account nos, so its not clear if those were different account number or different fd nos..so i uploaded loe regarding the same with the help of experts here..along with the letter i uploaded updated bank certi, and fd receipts..
my bank certi mentions that all the amount is free of any liability and can be liquidated any time
I think you are good then, you answered what was concerning to the case analyst, which was needed. I say wait for the officer to review your file now, rest experts can tell more.

I focused more on the "FDs are liquid" part coz mine were not considered at all.
 
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cansha

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@tobs, @cansha, @Prashant86_2000 arent they suppose to send some kind of letter first showing their intention for rejection and the applicant gets 1 week chance to explain their side?
That process sadly is not consistent and hence it is imperative to take action proactively if anyone finds something wrong in GCMS notes. I wish they were more consistent in their processes. But reality is they are not
 
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sid1987

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no its not. I've seen countless PFL for proof of funds. @amisanghavi
u can argue with all u like... i am telling whats in books and as i said its all depends upon officers
 

cansha

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my RR was for pof..it stated that my bank certi has mentioned only one savings account no but all the fds have different account nos, so its not clear if those were different account number or different fd nos..so i uploaded loe regarding the same with the help of experts here..along with the letter i uploaded updated bank certi, and fd receipts..
my bank certi mentions that all the amount is free of any liability and can be liquidated any time
I remember your case and I think from what you have mentioned your documents should be sufficient. The officer in Petra’s has done a mistake. I have seen officers rejecting for POF when they deduct loan amount etc but rejecting for FDs just plain ignorance or laziness on their part. I hope they reconsider once a CSE is raised.
 

amisanghavi

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I remember your case and I think from what you have mentioned your documents should be sufficient. The officer in Petra’s has done a mistake. I have seen officers rejecting for POF when they deduct loan amount etc but rejecting for FDs just plain ignorance or laziness on their part. I hope they reconsider once a CSE is raised.
I know..right..its very disheartening..and that too after long wait of 10 months..I suppose Petra's Aor is prior to mine..I hope and i pray that they reconsider her case..its insane to reject like this for such a silly reason ( actually its not even any reason at all )
 

Mr_nobody

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@King5151 congrats on your PPR and thank you for sharing your experience. My AOR is June 18. I had a RR early on the process (early July); they asked me to fill a Schedule A detailing my whereabouts on specific periods. And that was it. My background check started in October 27, and therefrom my application hibernated for nearly 6 months. Last week they issued another ADR, asking me to fill out another Schedule A (now detailing my life and whereabouts for the last 10 years), plus a "Government Employment Form" (in which I had to detail all government positions and duties I have held; I have several), and Military Records (which I have none).

In Brazil it is compulsory for all men at the age of 18 to report for military duty. So all Brazilian men either have Military records OR a specific document which proves that they reported but were dismissed. I believe they are aware of this and have been asking some Brazilian citizens to disclose that information.

Anyway, seems something specific. But just thought I should share. Good luck to you in Canada!
@phd208 I think the ADR that they are asking is not for RR. It seems that it s mostly for security purposes. RR is usually when they can't verify a document such as PoF or LOE, etc. But, sch A, military records , cv, and government employment records are mostly for the purpose of security.

The same is true for many other countries. Military service is mandatory in Iran and south Korea. They ask all sort of ADR from applicants from Iran and sometime they send them to endless SS.

Anyways, have you recently ordered note? What was your security status?
 
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sid1987

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ok.. family quick update from next week a new law for immigration will be in effect.... if u have applied refugee claim in US... u cannot apple for refugee claim in Canada and also express entry... and if its rejected there ... again u will rejected from Canada as well... IRCC has posted a vague description.. but this is exact whats happening...It will be expanded for other nations as well
 

sid1987

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I remember your case and I think from what you have mentioned your documents should be sufficient. The officer in Petra’s has done a mistake. I have seen officers rejecting for POF when they deduct loan amount etc but rejecting for FDs just plain ignorance or laziness on their part. I hope they reconsider once a CSE is raised.
@cansha officer will be following whats in the book... but some officers are lazy and do not understand the concept of FDs...
 
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DanFariasM

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Hi guys..
I may receive my copr tomorrow.. my medicals expire on 23rd April..
Just wanted to check if the medical expiry and landing expiry always corresponds with each other or will they give me an extension on the landing date..
Thanks
Hey @Axehere , please let us know when you get your COPR.. I will submit my passport this week and have the same query.. my medicals expire in 1st half of June.. and how come they have taken a month to stamp your passport?
Just so you can relate to my experience, I got my PPR on march 13, went to VFS on march 20, they (VFS) told me it would take 3 weeks to get my passport back, however on april 2 I got an update on my CIC account as well as a message. The update was that my application was approved (that happens when your visa is affixed to your passport) and a new section showed up on myCIC account named "Document Status" mentioning my visa expiry date there with other info like passport number, validity, etc. On the message there was a letter with some post arrival guidelines as well as visa and copr numbers, the expiry date is confirmed there. I didn't get any extension, my visa expires on June 4 (same day as my medicals) and I should be receiving my passport this or next week, so plan accordingly just in case. They might extend them if the expiry date will be too short but don't count on it, they ask remeds prior to the PPR so that's probably not your case.
 
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