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June 2017 AoR - Forum discussion only

JD_Albania

Newbie
Jun 22, 2017
3
0
Albania
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Rome
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
06-06-2017
AOR Received.
06-06-2017
Nothing to worry about and many applicants have made this mistake. There is no need to send a CSE, but since you have done it you are all good. Just sit tight and see your application progress!
Thank you for your response.
I have been reading each thread this last days and couldn't find a similar situation
 

z0mbie

Star Member
Jun 8, 2017
154
95
USA/Canada
Category........
Other
Thank you for your response.
I have been reading each thread this last days and couldn't find a similar situation
I noticed the same issue....before the application was submitted, the checklist just said employment record, 2, 3 etc. however after the application was submitted, the submitted doc list actually listed the employment record with specific job titles...I uploaded the docs in the order of jobs I listed in the online form...clearly this is a issue with the CIC online form. Since you filed an CSE, should be fine.
 

abhinavsharma

Star Member
Jun 11, 2017
72
19
Canada
Category........
CEC
AOR Received.
06-06-2017
The Medicals are done concurrently with the R10. Medicals are reviewed by Health Canada, which is a federal agency and in usually they are cleared after R10, but can happen before R10 too. It all depends on how much workload IRCC has. In the last few weeks there has ben no new ITA, and IRCC has been clearing the backlog, so the trends have been changing, and the same with Health Canada, who have been sending the medical review reports at a much faster pace, thus people seeing medicals being cleared before R10.

However, this is speculation and can differ from application to application. The best way to know if to get your GCMS notes, usually 45 days post AoR.


Interesting...and is there any reason why there hasnt been an ITA (For CEC especially) recently??? The last ITA given in which CEC was included was May 17th, which is the date when I got my ITA.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Interesting...and is there any reason why there hasnt been an ITA (For CEC especially) recently??? The last ITA given in which CEC was included was May 17th, which is the date when I got my ITA.
There has been no ITA across the board because of the changes in the immigration law, where in additional points were granted. IRCC should be giving ITAs this week, or at least that is what the prediction is.
 

dr feras

Champion Member
Jan 27, 2013
1,151
401
It takes a few days to get the UCI, which is usually generated as soon as your file is entered into the system by an officer. But for all purposes, you have the application number, which starts with an alphabet, followed by numbers, which you need to order GCMS, or correspond with IRCC.
Thank you for the great effort you put here to help us all.
Do we get any update in the system indicating r10 check is complete? Or is it only when medicals are passed
 
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Karan22

Full Member
May 28, 2017
26
9
Visa Office......
CIO Sydney
Hey everyone! Passed medicals!
AOR- 16th June, 2017
Medical Pass- 13th July, 2017
IP1- 12th July, 2017
UCI- 12th July 2017.
 

chente

Hero Member
Mar 1, 2017
886
247
NOC Code......
0124
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Any June AOR through PNP-O stream here? I think we shouldn't expect to pass medicals till at least September, with the current trend..
 

Ankur25

Full Member
Nov 12, 2014
36
0
Hi guys,

I have query regarding proof of financial means. Actualy i missed to upload one document which indicate source of bulk amount reflecting in my statement is received due to maturity of my FIXED DEPOSITS. I had received this amount very recently and hence i suppose i needed to declare source of it somewhere. I had planned earlier to declare it in LOE but somehow missed it and submitted application in June, 2017.

Now i have sent this information now through IRCC webform http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/contacts/web-form.asp . Is that ok now. Will that affect my application anyway?

PS- UCI no received on 24th July and medical status is PASSED.

Awaiting response.

Regards,
Ankur
 

axolotl

Star Member
Apr 17, 2017
186
249
So, this is my case. A tricky one i think.

My wife got accepted at an university in Canada. She begins her programme in September, so we have applied for a study permit (for her) and a work permit (for me as accompanying person). We are still waiting for a decision.

We also got an ITA in april and applied for PR in June. However, due to the length of the EE process and that we must be in Canada by september, we decided to keep both applications open.

Some questions I have in mind:
  • I think having two applications one for temporary visa and another for permanent residency can cause a problem. We have tried to document and support our case as much as possible. But still I am doubtful
  • If everything goes well, we will get a decision about the PR when we are already in Canada even though we started our application process as FSW-outland. Does that have any implication??
  • Any advice or consideration I should take?
Hoping the best...........

Cheers!
Not a problem at all. That's what happened to me. Please refer to my post.
 

shagunsangwan

Hero Member
Jul 11, 2014
203
74
Toronto, ON
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
A
Starting this thread for all those who got AoR in June 2017. If you want to join WhatsApp there are other threads. This thread is for having a discussion on the forum.

I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Introduce yourself here and have questions, just ask.
Hi captain,
Is the eligibility check done at IP1 or IP2 or NA2. I understand each file could follow different pattern but I am asking from a general perspective.
I am at NA2 and just trying to figure out things, I also ordered GCMS from getgcms today. :)