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[Ziya Zen]

Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in June 2019, or anticipate filing their application in July 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton

The case processing centre in Edmonton processes:

extensions for temporary resident status and temporary resident permits
work and study permits
applications for permanent residence from protected persons and convention refugees in Canada
applications for permanent residence for live-in caregivers
applications for permanent residence under Caring for Children and Caring for People with High Medical Needs pathways
applications for permenent residence under the temporary resident permit holder class
loans for the right of permanent residence fee


CPC in Mississauga
The case processing centre in Mississauga processes applications to sponsor family members living in Canada and abroad.

CPC and CIO in Sydney
The CPC in Sydney processes:

applications for permanent resident cards (new and renewals)
citizenship applications (new, renouncing, revoking and resuming)
The centralized intake office in Sydney (CIO-S) receives all applications in the following categories:

Federal Skilled Worker
Federal Skilled Trades
Canadian Experience Class
Provincial Nominee Program
Start-Up Visa
Quebec Investors or Entrepreneurs
Quebec Skilled Workers
Immigrant Investor Venture Capital Class
Federal Self-Employed Persons and Quebec Selected Self-Employed Persons


CPC in Ottawa
The case processing centre office in Ottawa (CPC-O) processes:

visitor visa (temporary resident visa) applications from within Canada for applicants with valid status (students or temporary foreign workers only).
permanent resident visa applications from the United States and Canada, after they have been received and deemed complete by CPC-M or CIO-S.


OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.


Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security

To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -

This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

Letter of Explanation -
As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

• Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  
• Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  
• IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
• You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.

SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.

Hey @legalfalcon
Could you please tell me what eligibility met but to be confirmed by visa officer means???
Im an FSW-O, just called IRCC and they told me Ive passed medicals and Criminality ,ss would start once the eligibility is confirmed.
TIA

 

[legalfalcon]

Hey @legalfalcon
Could you please tell me what eligibility met but to be confirmed by visa officer means???
Im an FSW-O, just called IRCC and they told me Ive passed medicals and Criminality ,ss would start once the eligibility is confirmed.
TIA

The eligibility takes place in 2-3 stages. First a cast analyst / assistant will review the documents and make a recommendation. Based on the recommendation the status of the eligibility will change to "Passed" / "Review Required" or not met. Then the officer will review the recommendation and make the final determination.

So if it is waiting to be confirmed by an officer, then an analyst or assistant has reviewed, but a final determination is pending.

 

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[Ziya Zen]

The eligibility takes place in 2-3 stages. First a cast analyst / assistant will review the documents and make a recommendation. Based on the recommendation the status of the eligibility will change to "Passed" / "Review Required" or not met. Then the officer will review the recommendation and make the final determination.

So if it is waiting to be confirmed by an officer, then an analyst or assistant has reviewed, but a final determination is pending.

Thanks a lot Sir! Also Is it true that Security screening for those with zero travel history may not take much time?Im from India, are all files transferred to LVO once the SS is done??

 

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[legalfalcon]

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@legalfalcon - could you please send me an invite to the July 2019 aor group as well?
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[Midnight Blessing]

Hello, @legalfalcon can you pls answer the below query. it is a super urgent situation.


He started his job with Company A on 2012 April as a trainee executive.

On 2013 October he got promoted to an executive in the same company

From 2013- 2019 he was working in the same executive position

So, in his express entry profile he ONLY mentioned his executive job title with tenure from 2013-2019 to claim his work experience points. His MEP is 69 points and CRS 462.

& he didn’t mention anything about his trainee executive period of work which was in the same company A.

In this situation, in his reference letter,

Q1: should his company mention the total years of experience in that company or just the period for which he is claiming points and has shown in his EE profile?

Q2: can he just show the trainee executive work period in personal history? Or he needs to explain this in LOE that although he started working from 2012 but is claiming points from 2013 to 2019?

Q3: whether he should also include his appointment letter in his application which he received before starting his trainee position?


pls help sir.

 

[legalfalcon]

@legalfalcon - could you please send me an invite to the July 2019 aor group as well?
Thanks.

@legalfalcon please add me to the WhatsApp group. AOR 10th July.

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[legalfalcon]

Hello, @legalfalcon can you pls answer the below query. it is a super urgent situation.


He started his job with Company A on 2012 April as a trainee executive.

On 2013 October he got promoted to an executive in the same company

From 2013- 2019 he was working in the same executive position

So, in his express entry profile he ONLY mentioned his executive job title with tenure from 2013-2019 to claim his work experience points. His MEP is 69 points and CRS 462.

& he didn’t mention anything about his trainee executive period of work which was in the same company A.

In this situation, in his reference letter,

Q1: should his company mention the total years of experience in that company or just the period for which he is claiming points and has shown in his EE profile?

Q2: can he just show the trainee executive work period in personal history? Or he needs to explain this in LOE that although he started working from 2012 but is claiming points from 2013 to 2019?

Q3: whether he should also include his appointment letter in his application which he received before starting his trainee position?


pls help sir.

1. The following documents are mandatory for each work experience declared:

• a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
  • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
  • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits

So even if you are not claiming points for a specific designation, you have to mention all positions held with the company and the total number of years worked.

2. If not claiming points, that part can be in the personal history and no LoE is required.

3. Appointment letters are not mandatory, but can be submitted. That is personal choice, and will support the work reference.

 

[Ziya Zen]

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@legalfalcon
Thanks a lot Sir! Also Is it true that Security screening for those with zero travel history may not take much time?Im from India, are all files transferred to LVO once the SS is done??

 

[legalfalcon]

@legalfalcon
Thanks a lot Sir! Also Is it true that Security screening for those with zero travel history may not take much time?Im from India, are all files transferred to LVO once the SS is done??

This is a Myth.

All applications go through security. The security is done by IRCC, CSIS and CBSA.

All security details in a GCMS notes are redacted. However, in the CBSA notes the security related details are not redacted and this is why you can see security screening, which is there in all GCMS notes.

The application is send to CSIS and CBSA at the same time. First CSIS concludes its involvement and then sends its report to CBSA, which then makes a comprehensive report and sends it to IRCC. The report will have the details and it is for IRCC to make a determination if an applicant is inadmissible based on the findings.

See my post on this and factors that usually result in security delays: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/the-anatomy-of-a-background-check-in-depth-analysis.500146/

For most the security will happened within 1-2 months. But those who get stuck in security screening, it can take 1-2 years.

There is no rule that if you do not have any travel history, the security will be faster as travel history is one of the many factors considered.