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Job Reference Letter - Query

coolblues

Newbie
Aug 26, 2009
2
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I am preparing to apply for Canadian immigration. My most relevant experience that relates to NOC:0213 is with my present company. I have been working with my present company for more than three years now.

I have talked(indirectly) to people(My Manager and HR) around regarding job reference letters with job descriptions and looks like these people do not entertain such requests. They might give me a general reference letter which might not include all the duties as desired or, duties listed might not match.

I have all other documents from this company like: Appointment letter, Promotion Letter, Star Achiever Certificate and Salary Slips. My passport shows that I traveled to US on more than one occasion and worked directly with the client from this company.

Can I still go ahead and apply for the immigration?

Please provide some guidance.
 

shareit

Star Member
Aug 10, 2009
118
1
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
May 2013
Even I have been wondering if my employer would be ready to give me an experience letter stating the job duties as required by the CHC (NOC0213). It is like asking them, "Hey, can you help me with something that would end up in me quitting my job in a few months?"

But then, there HAS to be *some* way since so many others must have gone through the same situation and were successful.

Seniors? :)
 

chouhans

Hero Member
Sep 3, 2009
263
0
Dubai, UAE
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-09-2009
Doc's Request.
16-11-2009
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
23-06-2010
IELTS Request
05-05-2010
File Transfer...
27-01-2010
Med's Request
Awaited...
Med's Done....
Awaited...
Interview........
Awaited...
Passport Req..
Awaited...
VISA ISSUED...
Awaited...
LANDED..........
Awaited...
coolblues,

in the initial stages of application, you don't have to send the reference letter, if you can no harm but it is not a must as i understand.

you must focus on correctness of the forms, experience and other required document (listed in checklist).
 

mcgyver

Hero Member
Apr 13, 2009
685
88
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
5-05-2014
Nomination.....
11-06-2014
AOR Received.
11-08-2014
File Transfer...
23-06-2014
Med's Request
16-04-2015
Med's Done....
29-04-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
29-06-2015 Decision Made: 30-06-2015 PP Submitted...: 1-07-2015
VISA ISSUED...
10-07-2015 PP Returned....: 11-08-2015
LANDED..........
01-10-2015
As a last resort, perhaps the following can be done.

Once an applicant receives a letter from a CIC officer mentioning a list of necessary items to be submitted and urging him/her to submit all those within 120 days, the applicant can take that letter to his/her employer along with a description of NOC from the HRSDC website and ask the employer for a reference letter.
 

chouhans

Hero Member
Sep 3, 2009
263
0
Dubai, UAE
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-09-2009
Doc's Request.
16-11-2009
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
23-06-2010
IELTS Request
05-05-2010
File Transfer...
27-01-2010
Med's Request
Awaited...
Med's Done....
Awaited...
Interview........
Awaited...
Passport Req..
Awaited...
VISA ISSUED...
Awaited...
LANDED..........
Awaited...
yes as mentioned by mcgyver this could be a way forward.
 

aanbaan

Champion Member
Apr 1, 2009
1,068
4
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-Apr-2009
Doc's Request.
14-May-2009
AOR Received.
09-Jul-2009
Med's Request
30-Aug-2009
Med's Done....
05-Sep-2009
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
30-Aug-2009
VISA ISSUED...
24-Feb-2010
LANDED..........
08-Aug-2010
best option is - yor employer gives a reference letter...

but, it is not mandatory... no need to menton anything at stage 1.

with full applicatio, provide a written explanation of why you cannot provide the ref letter.. mention company policy and risk of job-loss... try and provide customer applreciation mails, and managerial responsibility mail. print out from intranet mentioning job duties for your role. Your current designation letter addressed to some bank from the company...

these kind of this.. things to make the case stronger....

i hop this helps.
 

shareit

Star Member
Aug 10, 2009
118
1
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
May 2013
aanbaan, yep, makes sense to provide additional documents to support your case.

Btw, any idea what are the chances that CHC will give a phone call to my company for verification? Since I would have mentioned that there is a risk of job-loss, they might not want to do it anyway!

If nothing else works, as a last and final resort, I guess I will take a printout on my company letterhead and sign it myself. *evil*
 

zuszus

Member
Aug 28, 2009
14
0
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-07-2014
AOR Received.
25-11-2014
Med's Request
08 Oct. 2015
Med's Done....
21 Oct 2015
Interview........
8 Oct. 2015
Passport Req..
no
VISA ISSUED...
no
LANDED..........
no
well my company's HR policy also didnt allow to issue reference letter stating my JD, annual income etc.. what i have done is that i have asked my departmental HOD to sign my JD part. Rest of the requirements ( tenure etc) are signed by HR head. For yearly earning, i have separate letter issued by HR along with any promotion letters. I hope this works and not confuse the CIC...! any comments are welcome...!
 

mcgyver

Hero Member
Apr 13, 2009
685
88
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
5-05-2014
Nomination.....
11-06-2014
AOR Received.
11-08-2014
File Transfer...
23-06-2014
Med's Request
16-04-2015
Med's Done....
29-04-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
29-06-2015 Decision Made: 30-06-2015 PP Submitted...: 1-07-2015
VISA ISSUED...
10-07-2015 PP Returned....: 11-08-2015
LANDED..........
01-10-2015
zuszus,

wow, your boss agreed on signing the description letter that you had prepared about your designation! what better would there be for one to have? i mean, it is a signed letter from the immediate supervisor that is regarded with more importance by cic than a letter from HR. in fact, people should try more to get letters from their immediate bosses than HR. i am praying now so that my boss signs the letter that i have prepared. i have no intention to go to HR because my boss knows what i do more than HR and the official description often does not include everything that an employee does.
 

aanbaan

Champion Member
Apr 1, 2009
1,068
4
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-Apr-2009
Doc's Request.
14-May-2009
AOR Received.
09-Jul-2009
Med's Request
30-Aug-2009
Med's Done....
05-Sep-2009
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
30-Aug-2009
VISA ISSUED...
24-Feb-2010
LANDED..........
08-Aug-2010
shareit said:
aanbaan, yep, makes sense to provide additional documents to support your case.

Btw, any idea what are the chances that CHC will give a phone call to my company for verification? if you have requested not to, i doubt that they will... Since I would have mentioned that there is a risk of job-loss, they might not want to do it anyway! yeah

If nothing else works, as a last and final resort, I guess I will take a printout on my company letterhead and sign it myself. *evil* not recommended, esp if you work for a larger size company. Am sure they have a database of companies that provide reference and companies that don't...