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KOMARI

Star Member
Jan 12, 2017
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Hello,
I have received my GCMS notes one month after having requested them. The result is as follows:
Eligibility: Not started
Security: Not started
Criminality: In progress
Medical: Passed
Info sharing: In progress
In Note 3 the recommendation for my wife is passed. For me however is Review required. I tried to find out why but I could not. There are only two things I can think of that might drive the officer to recommend a review of my file:
1- The fact that my POF is a gift deed from my mother in law. I received the money cash and I put it myself in my bank account. However, I provided a photo of the money withdrawal receipt proving that she withdrew the sum in question from her bank account a day before.
2- The fact that I had a tourist visa for canada refused before.
What is your opinion about the Review required thing? When do you think I shall order GCMS notes again?
Dear @legalfalcon your opinion is appreciated.
Thank you all.
 

KOMARI

Star Member
Jan 12, 2017
61
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Dear members (and @legalfalcon),
I have submitted Schedule A for a background check upfront and I have some doubts about some of my answers. My situation is as follows:
1- I have two BA degrees. In my application I have mentioned only the first one since the second one was not evaluated at WES.
2- I have a refused visitor visa application to Canada for sure. I might have had another one refused to France but I am not sure about it since I visited this country many times.

My questions are:
1- In schedule A I didn't mention anything about the second BA major. Do I have to raise a webform and send them another Schedule A with updated education history?

2- Are the following answers correct taking into account the 2nd point mentioned above:
* 6-(d): been refused refugee status, an immigrant or permanent resident visa (including a Certificate de selection du Quebec (CSQ) or application to the Provincial Nominee Program) or visitor or temporary resident visa, to Canada or any other country?---> I answered YES
* 6-(e) been refused admission to, or ordered to leave, Canada or any other country? ----> I anwered NO

3- In the explanation I have mentioned only the refusal of the visitor visa application to Canada since I am not sure about the second one. Is this ok?

If my answers are not correct can I submit a new Schedule A form via a webform since my eligibility has not yet started as per the GCMS notes that I have just received?
Thank you so much in advance.
 

ShivaDurga

Star Member
Sep 19, 2017
53
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May be due date in Feb 2022 is in line with your medical expiry date which basically implies that your file should be processed before Feb 2022. I am not sure though.
I thought so initially that it could be one year from when Medical are approved. However the Medicals expiry is in December which is an year after the actual medical test dates.
 

KOMARI

Star Member
Jan 12, 2017
61
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I thought so initially that it could be one year from when Medical are approved. However the Medicals expiry is in December which is an year after the actual medical test dates.
Hi,
I checked my GCMS Notes and the due date of security is March 2021. My AOR is January 18th. However, up to now my security check has not yet started as per the notes. So, I think the due date is irrelevant during this pandemic as nothing is 100% clear for them.
 

KOMARI

Star Member
Jan 12, 2017
61
12
Hello dear members (& @legalfalcon),
When checking the detailed eligibility section (that starts from the 14th page) I found out that there are 5 assessments in total. In all of them the Status was Passed-Candidate. In the second page of the notes, however, the Eligibility is Not Started. Does anyone have an idea what does this mean? I am bit confused.
 
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Timbuktu_14

Champion Member
Feb 5, 2020
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Hi All FSW/PNP Outland members. I have looked further into my GCMS notes and under the Security section the status is Not Started and the Due date is set to late February 2022. Anyone who recently got the GCMS notes noticed this in your applications? I am wondering if this could be an indication of good amount of time we can expect to wait before seeing any progress on the applications. Secondary Visa Office is CPC-Ottawa.
Due dates mean nothing right now. Your application could well be finalized way before then or after. Your primary office is CIO, right?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear members (and @legalfalcon),
I have submitted Schedule A for a background check upfront and I have some doubts about some of my answers. My situation is as follows:
1- I have two BA degrees. In my application I have mentioned only the first one since the second one was not evaluated at WES.
2- I have a refused visitor visa application to Canada for sure. I might have had another one refused to France but I am not sure about it since I visited this country many times.

My questions are:
1- In schedule A I didn't mention anything about the second BA major. Do I have to raise a webform and send them another Schedule A with updated education history?

2- Are the following answers correct taking into account the 2nd point mentioned above:
* 6-(d): been refused refugee status, an immigrant or permanent resident visa (including a Certificate de selection du Quebec (CSQ) or application to the Provincial Nominee Program) or visitor or temporary resident visa, to Canada or any other country?---> I answered YES
* 6-(e) been refused admission to, or ordered to leave, Canada or any other country? ----> I anwered NO

3- In the explanation I have mentioned only the refusal of the visitor visa application to Canada since I am not sure about the second one. Is this ok?

If my answers are not correct can I submit a new Schedule A form via a webform since my eligibility has not yet started as per the GCMS notes that I have just received?
Thank you so much in advance.

1. In the form, in the personal history section, you had to mention all your education details in the last 10 years.

2. yes

3. If you had a prior visa refusal and you are not sure about the exact date or reasons, you should have mentioned this in your LoE and explain that you were refused a visa, however, you are not sure of the date and reasons.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello,
I have received my GCMS notes one month after having requested them. The result is as follows:
Eligibility: Not started
Security: Not started
Criminality: In progress
Medical: Passed
Info sharing: In progress
In Note 3 the recommendation for my wife is passed. For me however is Review required. I tried to find out why but I could not. There are only two things I can think of that might drive the officer to recommend a review of my file:
1- The fact that my POF is a gift deed from my mother in law. I received the money cash and I put it myself in my bank account. However, I provided a photo of the money withdrawal receipt proving that she withdrew the sum in question from her bank account a day before.
2- The fact that I had a tourist visa for canada refused before.
What is your opinion about the Review required thing? When do you think I shall order GCMS notes again?
Dear @legalfalcon your opinion is appreciated.
Thank you all.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied to (FSW / CEC / FTW). To streamline this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision-making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize them in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or is “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employee cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst/assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst/assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst/assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is a “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are known as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF is anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

These are just some of the scenarios.
 
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KOMARI

Star Member
Jan 12, 2017
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1. In the form, in the personal history section, you had to mention all your education details in the last 10 years.

2. yes

3. If you had a prior visa refusal and you are not sure about the exact date or reasons, you should have mentioned this in your LoE and explain that you were refused a visa, however, you are not sure of the date and reasons.
Concernant your response for question (1), do I have to send them a new Schedule A pr it’s too late now? I am afraid of the misrepresentation problem. Thanks
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Concernant your response for question (1), do I have to send them a new Schedule A pr it’s too late now? I am afraid of the misrepresentation problem. Thanks
You can either send a web form and point out the correction or send an updated form with an explanation. It is never to late to correct your mistake.
 
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Caprio

Star Member
Jul 4, 2021
187
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Hi all, I called IRCC again :)

This was my 3rd time in 6 months. Last time I called in May they said my case was not with an officer yet. This time they said an officer is working on our case, therefore eligibility is conclusively passed (hallelujah!). Also the agent said criminality and security is not started, however he also said "has not started" is not always mean not started, because apparently they can work on your case in the background and without the status ever saying "in progress" it might directly change to passed/failed.

He also said that lots of outland cases are finalized these days, so I guess our day is coming!
This is great news. Please what’s your AOR?
 
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AishB

Hero Member
Sep 29, 2020
930
280
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
NDVO
AOR Received.
13-02-2021
Passport Req..
30-08-2022
Hi all, I called IRCC again :)

This was my 3rd time in 6 months. Last time I called in May they said my case was not with an officer yet. This time they said an officer is working on our case, therefore eligibility is conclusively passed (hallelujah!). Also the agent said criminality and security is not started, however he also said "has not started" is not always mean not started, because apparently they can work on your case in the background and without the status ever saying "in progress" it might directly change to passed/failed.

He also said that lots of outland cases are finalized these days, so I guess our day is coming!
Hi,
Are you outland and which VO ?
 

Mansi Thakkar

Full Member
Feb 10, 2021
32
4
Hi all, I called IRCC again :)

This was my 3rd time in 6 months. Last time I called in May they said my case was not with an officer yet. This time they said an officer is working on our case, therefore eligibility is conclusively passed (hallelujah!). Also the agent said criminality and security is not started, however he also said "has not started" is not always mean not started, because apparently they can work on your case in the background and without the status ever saying "in progress" it might directly change to passed/failed.

He also said that lots of outland cases are finalized these days, so I guess our day is coming!
Hi you are from which country ?