Jan 27th draw crs 457

[Asivad Anac]

I've no idea what argument you've been having about PCC's, but we do need to provide one for every country you spent 6 months in over the age of 18, bar Canada as CIC will do their own background check and request one if they need one from you at a later point.

Ignoring the angry troll but have to clarify on the PCC point so here goes.

In the interest of providing clarity, let's reiterate that PCC is required from each country where one has lived for 6 months or more (in a row) since turning 18. If one has lived in multiple provinces/states within the same country over a period of time, one would still need just 1 PCC from the country as a whole rather than a series of state-level PCCs covering the entire duration of one's stay in the country.

Some countries (India and Pakistan figure most prominently in the forum on PCC discussions so I'm using them as an example) have the habit of provincial police authorities providing provincial-level PCCs as well. These PCCs have proved ineffective and members have reported refusals after having submitted such documents. The problem does NOT lie in the PCC itself - the problem lies in the fact that those PCCs were time-bound and/or geography-bound.

Time-bound PCCs are those which have a certain starting month/year mentioned in the document and vouches for no criminal record from that time. If you stayed in that country before that month/year (after turning 18), your application can be refused because you did not account for the entire time spent in that country.

Geography-bound PCCs are those which have a certain province/state/city/locality/address mentioned in the document and vouches for no criminal record for that address. If you've stayed elsewhere in that country (after turning 18), your application can be refused because you did not account for the entire time spent in that country.

 

[gmreddy]

Yaay!! Count me in.., Just received the Ghost mail and the letter..,

 

[RamsayBolton]

Number 4 is about the internal algorithm at CIC. 450 isn't important and it never was. 1500 ITAs/draw is the key number. Or 3000/4500/6000 depending on the number of draws/month.

What is significant about this draw is that this is the 1st time ever that CIC gave out 4500 ITAs per month. And the cutoff never fell below 453.

Asivad, if you have time, can you do a few calculations and give us an insight on each CRS threshold ? For example, an inland applicant with 417 will usually have a bachelor degree, one year working experience and english skills in clb 9. This way we can get the general idea of which type of applicant, CIC is aiming for.

I don't see how people are expecting to see the cutoff drop below 450 points much if even it does..

This pool is not static. Many people enter the pool on daily bases or increase their score all the time to meet the crs score that would suffice.

No one could possibly think that there is just a certain number of people who are in the pool and once they receive ITA the score will drop down.... From what I read thought it looks like some folks do thinks so.

Very true, I was intending to post this as well. Every day, every hour, new degree, working experience, ietls score and eca will be achieved and changed, so does the crs score and number of applicants.

 

[JoacRy]

@gmreddy, congratulations. Still awaiting mine.

 

[Aragorn165]

Congratulations to all who got their invites!

 

[Han]

Asivad, if you have time, can you do a few calculations and give us an insight on each CRS threshold ? For example, an inland applicant with 417 will usually have a bachelor degree, one year working experience and english skills in clb 9. This way we can get the general idea of which type of applicant, CIC is aiming for.
Very true, I was intending to post this as well. Every day, every hour, new degree, working experience, ietls score and eca will be achieved and changed, so does the crs score and number of applicants.

I don't think CIC is aiming for special candidates! As far as I know, CIC is concerned about their resources (number of officers, agents, etc). If at some point they manage to have more resources, they will most likely invite more people per draw. I hope this happens in near future.

 

[gmreddy]

@gmreddy, congratulations. Still awaiting mine.

Thank you JoacRy; And Congrats to you too..,

 

[ResKi]

Nice!!Got invitation today under FSW but thought they will give under CEC but not a big problem. Hope from second time me and my wife will get precious PR

 

[Shipper]

Congrats everyone who received ITA today.
And to those who are still waiting, hold the line folks, don't lose hope and do your best to increase your scores.

 

[ntwkengg]

I guess due to large number of applicants getting ITA each month they changed the processign time.

but we have to wait for this friday to get a conformation on this point too.

if processing time remains 15 months then it doesnt suits the name "express entry".


it will be normal not express process.

 

[ntwkengg]

Nice!!Got invitation today under FSW but thought they will give under CEC but not a big problem. Hope from second time me and my wife will get precious PR

congrats... you will get it just follow the process and collect all documents and if necessary attach explanation to your points.

 

[nshakelly]

@nshakelly, no problem. Let's help each other out throughout this process. We've waited too long to get it wrong now.

Invisible high five

I now see the letter under the "Message" section. Can you see yours?

 

[gmreddy]

I now see the letter under the "Message" section. Can you see yours?

Count me in tooo for the "Invisible High Five". I am a Banker by profession..,

 

[rafzy]

447... SOMEONE PLEASE KILL ME NOW :'(

 

[eddie_in_NL]

Ignoring the angry troll but have to clarify on the PCC point so here goes.

In the interest of providing clarity, let's reiterate that PCC is required from each country where one has lived for 6 months or more (in a row) since turning 18. If one has lived in multiple provinces/states within the same country over a period of time, one would still need just 1 PCC from the country as a whole rather than a series of state-level PCCs covering the entire duration of one's stay in the country.

Some countries (India and Pakistan figure most prominently in the forum on PCC discussions so I'm using them as an example) have the habit of provincial police authorities providing provincial-level PCCs as well. These PCCs have proved ineffective and members have reported refusals after having submitted such documents. The problem does NOT lie in the PCC itself - the problem lies in the fact that those PCCs were time-bound and/or geography-bound.

Time-bound PCCs are those which have a certain starting month/year mentioned in the document and vouches for no criminal record from that time. If you stayed in that country before that month/year (after turning 18), your application can be refused because you did not account for the entire time spent in that country.

Geography-bound PCCs are those which have a certain province/state/city/locality/address mentioned in the document and vouches for no criminal record for that address. If you've stayed elsewhere in that country (after turning 18), your application can be refused because you did not account for the entire time spent in that country.

Just to complement the information above: PCC requirements vary by country and CIC may even change their requirements from each country over time. Most of the time, only one PCC will be required. In some cases, more may be required but this will be clearly mentioned in the CIC website that contains PCC instructions for each country. For Brazil, up to mid last year, one had to get a PCC issued by the federal police, one issued by the state police of each state where you lived and another one issued by the courts. Getting them wasn't much of a problem as they were all issued online for free (and instantly !) but they all have to be translated which is costly. Some time last year they changed the requirements, and right now, CIC only requires the PCC issued by the federal police.

In summary, read carefully what is required from the CIC website at the time when you're submitting your application (it may have changed if you didn't check it recently) and pay attention to the points Asivad mentioned above about geography/time constraints in the PCC's you get.