Is record of landing still valid after obtaining Canadian citizenship?

[theone001]

Hi does anyone know if this document is still valid after one obtains a Canadian citizenship?
I'm trying to see if I can use it to apply for a driver license but it has "This holder is no longer a permanent resident" stamped on it.

 

[chikloo]

Yes it is a valid document. You will need it for applying your pension. You can use citizenship certificate as well for I'd document

 

[dpenabill]

Hi does anyone know if this document is still valid after one obtains a Canadian citizenship?
I'm trying to see if I can use it to apply for a driver license but it has "This holder is no longer a permanent resident" stamped on it.

The question is not whether the Record of Landing is valid, or not, but whether the respective province accepts a Record of Landing as proof of identity.

Caveat: I am not familiar with a record of landing which has "This holder is no longer a permanent resident" stamped on it. And, indeed, the term "holder" in this context throws me off as it is not a term I would expect to see in this context, nor one I have seen in even related contexts.

Otherwise, the required proof of identity and status to obtain a drivers' license varies some among the different provinces, the drivers license being a provincial matter. See the respective web site for the province.

For Ontario, for example, see the respective Service Ontario web page regarding requirements to obtain an Ontario drivers' license: (this should link to it).

The Ontario site does not list "Record of Landing" or the CoPR as an accepted identity document for Canadian citizens, although it does list these as accepted documents for PRs. (This makes sense of course.)

Ontario does not accept citizenship certificates issued after February 2012 either. Again, the respective provinces vary some in their specific requirements.

I have seen reports that BC, for example, only accepts a valid PR card for PRs, and if so then a Record of Landing or CoPR will not suffice. (I have not checked the BC site to confirm this.)

Finally, if indeed the Record of Landing is stamped to show that the person identified in the document is no longer a Permanent Resident, I seriously doubt it would suffice for purposes of obtaining a provincial drivers' license . . . it would still suffice to show the event of landing, but probably not as a current identity document, and definitely not evidence or documentation as to current status.



Further Observations regarding "validity" of Record of Landing:

The Record of Landing (IMM 1000) was replaced by the CoPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residence IMM 5292) more than a decade ago. I am far more familiar with the latter, the CoPR, but so far as I understand things, either document is not a document which one would ordinarily describe as "valid" in the sense of documents which may become invalid or expire. It may be described as "valid" in the sense of whether or not it is an authentic document. But it is akin to a birth certificate or a marriage certificate: it is an official record of a specific legal event. A divorce, for example, does not mean the marriage certificate is no longer valid. The marriage is terminated, by the divorce, but that does not change history, the divorce does not mean the marriage did not take place -- the marriage certificate documents that there was a marriage, while the divorce means the marriage was terminated. Thus, the divorce does not make the marriage itself invalid and does not make the marriage certificate invalid.

Similarly as to becoming a PR . . . although, again, I am less familiar with the particulars of the older Record of Landing (IMM 1000).

The CoPR, in particular, documents the date the named individual landed and became a PR. As such it ordinarily does not constitute documentation of that individual's later status, although generally once a person becomes a PR they remain a PR until they become a citizen, die, or are adjudicated to have lost PR status.

There are various reasons why a record of landing may be required later in life, regardless of one's status later (such as citizen versus PR), albeit to show date of establishing resident status in Canada for purposes of pension qualifications is the main one.

 

[Leon]

I had the old record of landing IMM1000. A legal sized sheet of paper that you were supposed to fold up and keep tucked inside your passport for identification as a PR because back then they did not have PR cards. The IMM1000 still qualifies as ID for certain things in certain provinces and it is true that when you get citizenship, they stamp on it that the holder of this document is no longer a permanent resident. Whether they'd still accept it as ID after that, I have no idea. Worth a try if it's your only option. If it doesn't work out, you'll have to think of something else. However, if you have citizenship, you can get a passport and that should qualify as ID pretty much everywhere.

 

[ERJOPA]

I was told at my ceremony to keep it - apparently you will need it for Canadian old age stuff.

 

[Leon]

I was told at the ceremony to keep it because it's a historical document.

 

[aloksh25]

One you obtain citizenship then you dont need that document , it might prove handy only when you loose your citizenship certificate or passport to identify other then that it no longer needed

 

[PMM]

Hi

One you obtain citizenship then you dont need that document , it might prove handy only when you loose your citizenship certificate or passport to identify other then that it no longer needed

1, Sorry but you need it for Old Age Security

 

[screech339]

One you obtain citizenship then you dont need that document , it might prove handy only when you loose your citizenship certificate or passport to identify other then that it no longer needed

Sure you can destroy it if you don't want to collect old age security benefits.