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Is proving one must return to Canada essential for permanent residency?

livinginchina

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Hi,

I'm a Canadian citizen sponsoring my two children who are British. I'm not sure what my plans will be one year down the road, and I have no way to prove that I will return to Canada even if I do plan to return. Sponsors are required to prove they live in Canada, yet Canadian citizens living overseas can maintain their spouses permanent residency without residing in Canada. Is it worth it to risk not providing proof of returning to Canada?
 

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no, because in order for them to approve the application they will want to know this information. more likely than not, if it's not included in the package, it will be requested before a decision is made. If you don't intend to return to canada, why go through the process now? Why not wait until you are ready to go back?
 

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If you are a Canadian Citizen and assuming you meet the requirements your children would also be Canadian citizens, however, you need to apply for a Canadian citizenship certificate for them which takes about 12-15 months. I am not sure why you would be applying for PR if you were not intending to move back to Canada. The application states that you must show intent to move back once your spouse receives his PR status, whether this is through a job offer, lease or a letter from family members etc.

We applied for citizenship for our daughter who was born in the UK seperately to our PR application.
 

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brucem said:
If you are a Canadian Citizen and assuming you meet the requirements your children would also be Canadian citizens, however, you need to apply for a Canadian citizenship certificate for them which takes about 12-15 months
this poster already mentioned in another thread that he received his citizenship through his mother, he was not born in canada, therefore his children are not citizens. he will need to sponsor his children for pr status.
 

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Ah that would make sense!
 

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livinginchina said:
Thanks again for the prompt feedback. I'm applying for PR status to keep my options open, but it may be premature.
They will ask you to show proof for intent to return to Canada. If you don't show any, most likely your app will be rejected and you'll have just wasted around $500 in fees and cost/hassle to do medicals.

PR is not meant for people to "keep their options open". It's meant for people who have an actual plan to return to Canada. Though if you can prove this, there is nothing stopping you from landing as PR and then leaving again right away.
 

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livinginchina said:
Hi,

I'm a Canadian citizen sponsoring my two children who are British. I'm not sure what my plans will be one year down the road, and I have no way to prove that I will return to Canada even if I do plan to return. Sponsors are required to prove they live in Canada, yet Canadian citizens living overseas can maintain their spouses permanent residency without residing in Canada. Is it worth it to risk not providing proof of returning to Canada?
If you don't or can't demonstrate to the satisfaction of the visa office that you WILL return to Canada after PR status is granted to those who you are sponsoring, your application will almost certainly be refused. It's as simple as that... It's in black and white on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

If I live outside Canada, may I sponsor?

If you are a Canadian citizen, you may sponsor a spouse, a common-law partner or conjugal partner, or a dependent child who has no children of his or her own. However, you must demonstrate that you will live in Canada when the sponsored person becomes a permanent resident.
 

Cross Border Couple

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Would confirmation of acceptance at a canadian university show intent to return to Canada. If PR is granted, I would be living with my soon to be husband at his apartment which he owns. How do applicants commonly show 'intent' to return to Canada once PR is granted? Im not looking for straight answers just suggestions.
 

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Why do you want to sponsor them if you don't want to return to Canada?
 

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Cross Border Couple said:
Would confirmation of acceptance at a canadian university show intent to return to Canada. If PR is granted, I would be living with my soon to be husband at his apartment which he owns. How do applicants commonly show 'intent' to return to Canada once PR is granted? Im not looking for straight answers just suggestions.
Don't forget that it's the Sponsor who has to prove intent, not the Principal Applicant. I'm not clear from your post who you are referring to.
 

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Cross Border Couple said:
Would confirmation of acceptance at a canadian university show intent to return to Canada. If PR is granted, I would be living with my soon to be husband at his apartment which he owns. How do applicants commonly show 'intent' to return to Canada once PR is granted? Im not looking for straight answers just suggestions.
from what i read, they look for a plan. To me this suggests proof of any family help that will be provided (housing/finances), research done on particular industries/companies for jobs, locations for apartment rentals, realtor info if planning to purchase, employment agency info, classes for any professional certification needed, etc. I can't imagine they would expect anything concrete since the sponsor is not even in the country, and it's tough to obtain these things without being physically in canada. I assume they want you to prove to them you have no intentions on using welfare, and will do everything you can to be productive members of society.