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Is it possible to get rq after decision made

dpenabill

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Abdih said:
What is the possibility of getting rq after decision is made
Short answer: Possible yes. But that is not a reason to worry.



Longer answer:

Is it possible to get RQ after decision is made?

Yes. It is possible to be given RQ any time, right up until taking the oath is complete.

Is that something to worry about? No. While possible, once the applicant has actually been scheduled for the oath it is not at all likely, and indeed would be extremely unlikely unless certain circumstances occur. (For example, there have been instances in the past where the applicant was abroad and was coming back to Canada just in time to attend the oath, and something triggered the POE officer's attention, resulting in a flag, the oath getting cancelled, RQ issued.)



Does an applicant know when a final decision has been made?

Being scheduled for the oath is really the only sure indication. There are some sporadic reports based on ATIP responses which some have interpreted to mean the final decision has been made. Even when the ATIP report has a "decision made" entry, I am skeptical about what that means. There is no doubt about what being scheduled for the oath means.

That said, again, there remains a possibility, that even after being scheduled for the oath, something might trigger CIC to make further inquiries, delaying the oath, or making document requests via CIT 0520 or even the full blown RQ (CIT 0171).



Even though the officer told me to expect oath letter 2 to 4 months?

The interviewer at the test event can only give the applicant his or her sense of how it will go. What the interviewer says is no guarantee of anything. It is a fair indication, but not much more than that. Many, many applicants have come away from the interview with the wrong impression . . . going both directions, some thinking it was RQ for sure and they were scheduled for the oath, others thinking it went very well and the oath would be soon and six months or more later they got RQ.

If your reference to "decision made" is based on something the interviewer said, that is for sure no guarantee that the decision is in fact made or that there will not be any further processing, which again could include document requests via CIT 0520 or even the full blown RQ (CIT 0171). Still, though, if the interviewer said all is in order and expect the oath, that is what I would expect. But with no guarantee.
 

Anthony_nyc

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Hi everyone, ;D ;D ;D

I take the Citizenship test and interview October 1st. I don't have lease agreements, I paid cash to rent a room for the longest time. I know that can trigger a red flag. What I do have on me are the following;

-records of my dental and orthodontist procedures from my doctor
-tax forms for last 3 years
-Employment records
-Welfare letter from welfare office explaining I receive social aid welfare since my layoff
-Checklist stuff they ask for within Citizen Test / Interview letter
-Working on getting my entire Banking Records from when I first landed here up until now, the Canadian bank is working on getting that ready for me.

Also, I never left Canada once since landing March 4th, 2012. I'm from the USA. I only had one stamp as "recent" stamp, the March 4th, 2012 entry into Canada stamp in my passport. The only other stamp I ever got was way after on August 9th, 2015, when Canada stamped me for re-entry back into country. I applied for Citizenship April 28th, 2015. The USA border officers forgot to stamp my exit on August 6th, 2015. I have my Greyhound bus ticket stub to prove this. Anyways, I never left Canada for anything until way after I already sent out my Citizenship paperwork.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to explain? Not sure if I was proper or coherent enough, I tend to write pretty badly without sleep.... If anyone has more in depth answers, please personal message me, or simply reply here of course. Thanks for reading my mess! :)
 

dpenabill

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Anthony_nyc said:
Hi everyone, ;D ;D ;D

I take the Citizenship test and interview October 1st. I don't have lease agreements, I paid cash to rent a room for the longest time. I know that can trigger a red flag. What I do have on me are the following;

-records of my dental and orthodontist procedures from my doctor
-tax forms for last 3 years
-Employment records
-Welfare letter from welfare office explaining I receive social aid welfare since my layoff
-Checklist stuff they ask for within Citizen Test / Interview letter
-Working on getting my entire Banking Records from when I first landed here up until now, the Canadian bank is working on getting that ready for me.

Also, I never left Canada once since landing March 4th, 2012. I'm from the USA. I only had one stamp as "recent" stamp, the March 4th, 2012 entry into Canada stamp in my passport. The only other stamp I ever got was way after on August 9th, 2015, when Canada stamped me for re-entry back into country. I applied for Citizenship April 28th, 2015. The USA border officers forgot to stamp my exit on August 6th, 2015. I have my Greyhound bus ticket stub to prove this. Anyways, I never left Canada for anything until way after I already sent out my Citizenship paperwork.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to explain? Not sure if I was proper or coherent enough, I tend to write pretty badly without sleep.... If anyone has more in depth answers, please personal message me, or simply reply here of course. Thanks for reading my mess! :)
It would be unusual for the U.S. border officers to stamp the passport of an American traveling into the U.S. from Canada. Arriving from other countries at a U.S. airport POE will typically result in an entry stamp, but not travel between the U.S. and Canada (I got stamps maybe one out of fifty or so border crossing events). Which is to say the U.S. border officers did not forget to stamp your exit from Canada . . . they usually wouldn't.

As mentioned otherwise, most of what you are referring to as evidence is not asked for. Paying cash for rent does not in itself raise a red flag because CIC does not even see this unless something else has raised a red flag and CIC has issued RQ or at least a CIT 0520 request for additional documents. Of course, if you are given RQ then the lack of objective documentation showing your interest in a place of abode, especially in conjunction with a time period for which there is minimal other evidence (such as a time period of unemployment), then sure that is less a flag and more an overt question as to what evidence you do have to show your residency or presence in Canada during that time.

As I mentioned before, the only significant flag I see is that you did not visit the U.S. at all. That is probably quite unusual for American citizens who become Canadian PRs. Unusual tends to draw some attention. But if you were employed and living in Canada, the odds of RQ or other requests for additional documents is unlikely . . . unless, of course, there is something about your facts for which CIC has other, conflicting information.

There is the potential for CIC to request you obtain your U.S. entry history. A number of American applicants have received this request. Many more, however, have not (including me).
 

Abdih

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@nb8582 I think you are wrong when I first applied I had both my physical address and mailing address as po box I use pobox because I work in remote locations and I don't want to loose any mail. And I had no issues with immigration my application was routine . I never travelled and I always had a job and I was using pobox for many many years .... Pay stubs,revenue canada, record of employment, bank ......