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Lilly_LL

Member
Jun 15, 2017
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Hi Guys, I am a december 1st applicant , still no decision made. i am so depressed
Hi nnnah, CIC received my application package on March 31, 2016. If you are a December 1, 2016 applicant, do not worry... You will get it.
 

nnnah

Full Member
Jun 21, 2017
27
16
Yes I am inland sponsoring my husband. I sent my application December 1 2015 started processing Dec 23 2015. My husband just got aip two weeks ago. I think because he has kids from previous relationship where his ex is refusing to take the kids for medicals that's why it's taking so long . We sent immigration her refusal last week. The kids are in canada as protected refugees. When do you think we will get dm
 

sylvain1

Champion Member
Nov 2, 2016
2,211
1,162
Quebec
Visa Office......
Montreal
App. Filed.......
12-08-2015
AOR Received.
07-11-2015
Med's Request
07-12-2016
Med's Done....
21-12-2016
LANDED..........
26-05-2017
Hi Lilly,

I am a December 1st 2015 applicant
what did you receive so far? Did you get SA and/or AIP? Were you requested to pass the medical exam?
 

nnnah

Full Member
Jun 21, 2017
27
16
what did you receive so far? Did you get SA and/or AIP? Were you requested to pass the medical exam?
Hi Sylvain1,

I did not receive SA. My husband recieved aip last two weeks.I called the call center last week she said it was weird I didn't get SA. SA comes before Aip. Medicals was requested Jan 11 2017. Medicals for my husband and his kids who his ex has full custody. She refused to get the kids to have that as she and the kids are protected persons. We sent it to immigration. Now may 30 2017, they requested it again. We wrote a letter stating that she has full custody and refused. Attached her messages showing her application for pr with the kids as protected person with her refusal messages last two weeks. Also when I spoke to the call center last week she said he has passed background check, aip and medicals and saw the message for the kids medicals. We explained to her that we sent immigration her refusal and letter stating we know the consequences and we agree not to sponsor the kids in the future. It's beyond our control when you are dealing with a selfish person. I am so depressed. I don't know if they will refuse it because his ex refused to get the kids medicals and I am worried why it's taking so long.
 

sylvain1

Champion Member
Nov 2, 2016
2,211
1,162
Quebec
Visa Office......
Montreal
App. Filed.......
12-08-2015
AOR Received.
07-11-2015
Med's Request
07-12-2016
Med's Done....
21-12-2016
LANDED..........
26-05-2017
Hi Sylvain1,

I did not receive SA. My husband recieved aip last two weeks.I called the call center last week she said it was weird I didn't get SA. SA comes before Aip. Medicals was requested Jan 11 2017. Medicals for my husband and his kids who his ex has full custody. She refused to get the kids to have that as she and the kids are protected persons. We sent it to immigration. Now may 30 2017, they requested it again. We wrote a letter stating that she has full custody and refused. Attached her messages showing her application for pr with the kids as protected person with her refusal messages last two weeks. Also when I spoke to the call center last week she said he has passed background check, aip and medicals and saw the message for the kids medicals. We explained to her that we sent immigration her refusal and letter stating we know the consequences and we agree not to sponsor the kids in the future. It's beyond our control when you are dealing with a selfish person. I am so depressed. I don't know if they will refuse it because his ex refused to get the kids medicals and I am worried why it's taking so long.
Indeed, getting AIP implies the sponsor was approved, but you are really not alone in such a case, a lot of people never received a letter confirming SA or AIP. Now regarding the situation with the kids, I really don't know what is the specific rule, I will try to find it for you. But in any case, if I were you, I would seek the help of my MP.
 

Lilly_LL

Member
Jun 15, 2017
12
2
Yes I am inland sponsoring my husband. I sent my application December 1 2015 started processing Dec 23 2015. My husband just got aip two weeks ago. I think because he has kids from previous relationship where his ex is refusing to take the kids for medicals that's why it's taking so long . We sent immigration her refusal last week. The kids are in canada as protected refugees. When do you think we will get dm
Ouch... It sucks... My husband got his AIP in March, then I got request for medical exam about 2 weeks later. We mailed out additional documents mid May, and got scheduled landing interview on July 4th. I feel like as long as CIC starts to work on a case, it will be processed in 4 months.
 

nnnah

Full Member
Jun 21, 2017
27
16
Indeed, getting AIP implies the sponsor was approved, but you are really not alone in such a case, a lot of people never received a letter confirming SA or AIP. Now regarding the situation with the kids, I really don't know what is the specific rule, I will try to find it for you. But in any case, if I were you, I would seek the help of my MP.
I contacted mp on Monday she said she will contact immigration and call me next week. It's a really complicated issue. I don't know what to do. I feel like my strength is failing me
 

nnnah

Full Member
Jun 21, 2017
27
16
Ouch... It sucks... My husband got his AIP in March, then I got request for medical exam about 2 weeks later. We mailed out additional documents mid May, and got scheduled landing interview on July 4th. I feel like as long as CIC starts to work on a case, it will be processed in 4 months.
Congrats on your landing interview. I hope I get it processed within 4 months. They requested additional documents showing husband divorce and requested medicals for the kids in january and she refused sent it them. They sent again in May 30. Still sent her refusal again to them with a letter stating we won't sponsor them in the future. So just waiting. It's hard as my husband work permit expired in july 15. Applied last month and no response. He has a good job with saskatchewan government and I am on Mat leave. It's so tough on me.
 

sylvain1

Champion Member
Nov 2, 2016
2,211
1,162
Quebec
Visa Office......
Montreal
App. Filed.......
12-08-2015
AOR Received.
07-11-2015
Med's Request
07-12-2016
Med's Done....
21-12-2016
LANDED..........
26-05-2017
I contacted mp on Monday she said she will contact immigration and call me next week. It's a really complicated issue. I don't know what to do. I feel like my strength is failing me
if you have some free time, try typing "cic spousal sponsorship manual" in google and download the first link. This is the full CIC manual for spousal sponsorship. Look at pages 17-18:
I copy/paste here a section and put in bold interesting sentences:
Under Section 23 of the Regulations, the inadmissibility of a non-accompanying dependent child, or non-accompanying dependent child of a dependent child will only affect the admissibility of the principal applicant if the principal applicant or an accompanying dependent has custody of the child, or is empowered to act on behalf of that child by virtue of a court order or written agreement, or by operation of law. In order to establish that the principal applicant or an accompanying family member neither has custody, nor is empowered to act on behalf of an inadmissible non-accompanying dependent child or an inadmissible non-accompanying dependent child of a dependent child, by virtue of a court order or written agreement, applicants must provide documentary proof of the existing custody arrangements for the child. Officers should inform the applicant that it is their responsibility to make every reasonable effort to have non-accompanying family members examined, even if the applicant demonstrates that the child is in the sole custody of a separated or former spouse or common-law partner, or an individual other than the applicant or an accompanying family member. The onus is on the applicant to provide sufficient evidence to satisfy the officer that reasonable effort was made, without success, to have a non-accompanying child examined. Some scenarios where this may occur include where an ex-spouse refuses to allow a child to be examined or an overage dependant refuses to be examined. Proceeding with an application where a dependent child has not been examined should be an exceptional measure. The applicant cannot simply choose not to have a family member examined. In cases where an applicant is genuinely unable to make a non-accompanying dependent child available for examination, as an exceptional measure, an officer can grant an exemption from the requirement for the dependant to be examined and the application can proceed. In such cases, to ensure they are fully aware of and accept the consequences of not having the child examined, applicant should be counselled that:
 children who are not examined cannot later be sponsored as members of the family class, despite any future changes in custody arrangements (see Section 5.26 on excluded relationships); and  the best interests of the child might be better served by having the child examined. If this advice is declined, a record should be entered into GCMS notes. As there are no set parameters or criteria for determining what is reasonable, officers should examine the particular circumstances of the case and exercise good judgment in assessing the full range of circumstances and making a decision whether or not to grant an exemption and proceed with the application. If an officer believes that custody arrangements are not genuine, but rather, that they were entered into in order to facilitate the applicant’s permanent residence in Canada by hiding the child’s inadmissibility, they should insist on the child being examined.

So, my understanding is that if you document sufficiently your case, it will not prevent your application to be approved.
 

nnnah

Full Member
Jun 21, 2017
27
16
if you have some free time, try typing "cic spousal sponsorship manual" in google and download the first link. This is the full CIC manual for spousal sponsorship. Look at pages 17-18:
I copy/paste here a section and put in bold interesting sentences:
Under Section 23 of the Regulations, the inadmissibility of a non-accompanying dependent child, or non-accompanying dependent child of a dependent child will only affect the admissibility of the principal applicant if the principal applicant or an accompanying dependent has custody of the child, or is empowered to act on behalf of that child by virtue of a court order or written agreement, or by operation of law. In order to establish that the principal applicant or an accompanying family member neither has custody, nor is empowered to act on behalf of an inadmissible non-accompanying dependent child or an inadmissible non-accompanying dependent child of a dependent child, by virtue of a court order or written agreement, applicants must provide documentary proof of the existing custody arrangements for the child. Officers should inform the applicant that it is their responsibility to make every reasonable effort to have non-accompanying family members examined, even if the applicant demonstrates that the child is in the sole custody of a separated or former spouse or common-law partner, or an individual other than the applicant or an accompanying family member. The onus is on the applicant to provide sufficient evidence to satisfy the officer that reasonable effort was made, without success, to have a non-accompanying child examined. Some scenarios where this may occur include where an ex-spouse refuses to allow a child to be examined or an overage dependant refuses to be examined. Proceeding with an application where a dependent child has not been examined should be an exceptional measure. The applicant cannot simply choose not to have a family member examined. In cases where an applicant is genuinely unable to make a non-accompanying dependent child available for examination, as an exceptional measure, an officer can grant an exemption from the requirement for the dependant to be examined and the application can proceed. In such cases, to ensure they are fully aware of and accept the consequences of not having the child examined, applicant should be counselled that:
 children who are not examined cannot later be sponsored as members of the family class, despite any future changes in custody arrangements (see Section 5.26 on excluded relationships); and  the best interests of the child might be better served by having the child examined. If this advice is declined, a record should be entered into GCMS notes. As there are no set parameters or criteria for determining what is reasonable, officers should examine the particular circumstances of the case and exercise good judgment in assessing the full range of circumstances and making a decision whether or not to grant an exemption and proceed with the application. If an officer believes that custody arrangements are not genuine, but rather, that they were entered into in order to facilitate the applicant’s permanent residence in Canada by hiding the child’s inadmissibility, they should insist on the child being examined.

So, my understanding is that if you document sufficiently your case, it will not prevent your application to be approved.
I think my husband sent them enough evidence. Sent them his lawyer letter stating the fact she has full custody and taking her to court to demand custody.
 

Lilly_LL

Member
Jun 15, 2017
12
2
Congrats on your landing interview. I hope I get it processed within 4 months. They requested additional documents showing husband divorce and requested medicals for the kids in january and she refused sent it them. They sent again in May 30. Still sent her refusal again to them with a letter stating we won't sponsor them in the future. So just waiting. It's hard as my husband work permit expired in july 15. Applied last month and no response. He has a good job with saskatchewan government and I am on Mat leave. It's so tough on me.
I agree with sylvain1. Since his ex. declared in a letter, CIC will ignore them and finalize your application. Sigh, really wish I could help more... And I checked application processing time for work permit extension (same employer). It said online application will take 52 days, paper application will take 119 days, and they are working on applications received on April 17, 2017. In the worst case scenario, he may have to take 2 weeks off from work, but spend more time with you and baby.