International student that needs help with community college

[ramezjoseph]

Hello there - i'm ramez.

I'm seeking help, I have something in mind, a plan.

My plan is to go to Canada for community college for computer science associate's degree, then get the post-graduation work permit,
work for 1 year in Canada, then get permanent residency, then get bachelors degree and pay domestic fees for it since i will have PR.

What do you guys think? Legally-wise is that legal?
Is it doable? what are the complications? what's gonna be hard?
Will finding work be hard after the 2 year associate's degree?

Thanks in advance fellas

 

[Simba112]

Hello there - i'm ramez.

I'm seeking help, I have something in mind, a plan.

My plan is to go to Canada for community college for computer science associate's degree, then get the post-graduation work permit,
work for 1 year in Canada, then get permanent residency, then get bachelors degree and pay domestic fees for it since i will have PR.

What do you guys think? Legally-wise is that legal?
Is it doable? what are the complications? what's gonna be hard?
Will finding work be hard after the 2 year associate's degree?

Thanks in advance fellas

I think you need to focus on how to get Study Permit first and see if you meet conditions and requirements. One at a time, and yes everything is possible and legit

 

[Naturgrl]

You are using American terms. Only a few colleges offers bachelor degrees in Canada. In Canada, we don’t have associate degrees. You go to university for a bachelors or some colleges.. So you want to take a diploma at a college (we don’t use the term community college), get a skilled job, get PR and then go back to school for a degree. Focus on getting into a school and showing how a Canadian education will help your career in your home country first.

Legal - yes
Associate’s degree - no such program in Canada

 

[ramezjoseph]

I think you need to focus on how to get Study Permit first and see if you meet conditions and requirements. One at a time, and yes everything is possible and legit

Well I'm in Senior year now so I'm just planning everything out and then will start doing the paperwork soon and get the study permit, but first wanted to check if the whole plan was doable and if It's legal or not. Thanks tho

 

[ramezjoseph]

You are using American terms. Only a few colleges offers bachelor degrees in Canada. In Canada, we don’t have associate degrees. You go to university for a bachelors or some colleges.. So you want to take a diploma at a college (we don’t use the term community college), get a skilled job, get PR and then go back to school for a degree. Focus on getting into a school and showing how a Canadian education will help your career in your home country first.

Legal - yes
Associate’s degree - no such program in Canada

Ah well my bad haha. I meant take a diploma at a college, do the PGWP, work for a year, get a PR and then get back to get my bachelors.

 

[ramezjoseph]

You are using American terms. Only a few colleges offers bachelor degrees in Canada. In Canada, we don’t have associate degrees. You go to university for a bachelors or some colleges.. So you want to take a diploma at a college (we don’t use the term community college), get a skilled job, get PR and then go back to school for a degree. Focus on getting into a school and showing how a Canadian education will help your career in your home country first.

Legal - yes
Associate’s degree - no such program in Canada

Do you think you know anyone who's done this before?

 

[canuck78]

Ah well my bad haha. I meant take a diploma at a college, do the PGWP, work for a year, get a PR and then get back to get my bachelors.

Very difficult to do. It’s pretty hard to prove that you need to do a 1 year diploma program at a college given the cost and basic material. Getting 1 year of experience in an NOC 0, A or B with a 1 year PGWP is difficult with many degrees so with a 1 year diploma it is likely to be difficult. You should at a minimum do a 2 year diploma.

 

[ramezjoseph]

Very difficult to do. It’s pretty hard to prove that you need to do a 1 year diploma program at a college given the cost and basic material. Getting 1 year of experience in an NOC 0, A or B with a 1 year PGWP is difficult with many degrees so with a 1 year diploma it is likely to be difficult. You should at a minimum do a 2 year diploma.

wait did i say 1? I meant 2, just like in USA with community colleges. 2 years diploma program

 

[scylla]

Hello there - i'm ramez.

I'm seeking help, I have something in mind, a plan.

My plan is to go to Canada for community college for computer science associate's degree, then get the post-graduation work permit,
work for 1 year in Canada, then get permanent residency, then get bachelors degree and pay domestic fees for it since i will have PR.

What do you guys think? Legally-wise is that legal?
Is it doable? what are the complications? what's gonna be hard?
Will finding work be hard after the 2 year associate's degree?

Thanks in advance fellas

Associates degrees aren't a thing in Canada.

You can do a two year diploma program so that you qualify for a three year PGWP. However without a degree, your points will be quite a bit lower and some provincial programs won't be an option for you. This could create problems in getting PR. Hard to predict the future but that's the risky part of your plan. You'll have a low scoring profile.

I would get a bachelor first in your home country if you don't want to pay the higher fees in Canada and then come to Canada for a 2 year post graduate diploma or Master's. That's a much better plan.

 

[ramezjoseph]

Associates degrees aren't a thing in Canada.

You can do a two year diploma program so that you qualify for a three year PGWP. However without a degree, your points will be quite a bit lower and some provincial programs won't be an option for you. This could create problems in getting PR. Hard to predict the future but that's the risky part of your plan. You'll have a low scoring profile.

I would get a bachelor first in your home country if you don't want to pay the higher fees in Canada and then come to Canada for a 2 year post graduate diploma or Master's. That's a much better plan.

getting a bachelor's in my country would be the last option, but it's also not that bad of an option, since if that's the case, I will go to a private university called university of canada in egypt. And i will get my degree from UPEI ( University of prince edward island ) And then come to do my masters,

But It's also about the student experience abroad, I don't wanna study in my home country, I'm definitely not planning on doing that.

Also, how do i calculate the points thing?

And how many points am i gonna lose for not having a degree but having a diploma?

 

[scylla]

getting a bachelor's in my country would be the last option, but it's also not that bad of an option, since if that's the case, I will go to a private university called university of canada in egypt. And i will get my degree from UPEI ( University of prince edward island ) And then come to do my masters,

But It's also about the student experience abroad, I don't wanna study in my home country, I'm definitely not planning on doing that.

Also, how do i calculate the points thing?

And how many points am i gonna lose for not having a degree but having a diploma?

The points calculator is below. Also keep in mind that you may find it harder to find a skilled job in Canada with only a diploma and no degree. So that is something else to consider.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

 

[powereng1982]

As one can easily see you insisting people in this forum to print a PR card for you without your own struggle/homework/educational efforts.

You should focus on knowing first if you qualify for admission in any institute/college/university based on educational credentials that you have now

 

[ramezjoseph]

As one can easily see you insisting people in this forum to print a PR card for you without your own struggle/homework/educational efforts.

You should focus on knowing first if you qualify for admission in any institute/college/university based on educational credentials that you have now

that wasn't my intention.

 

[ramezjoseph]

The points calculator is below. Also keep in mind that you may find it harder to find a skilled job in Canada with only a diploma and no degree. So that is something else to consider.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

alright, thanks a lot btw!