Intend to Reside/stay EVEN after getting citizenship

[Nightrider]

naturalized citizens must stay in the country and pay taxes and contribute to the economy otherwise feel free to ......
Born Citizens have the liberty to work anywhere in the world if they like to.

 

[nguyentu2001]

naturalized citizens must stay in the country and pay taxes and contribute to the economy otherwise feel free to ......
Born Citizens have the liberty to work anywhere in the world if they like to.

There is no "Must".

 

[chakrab]

Ok ....so one can plan or predict about his own plans but what about our kids.My elder son would be 18 by the time he will be eligible to apply ,so what if he gets a scholarship to study Economics at Harvard or Oxford (Canadian government itself does provide scholarships for both these institutions) ,should he let go these once in a life time opportunities simply because he had to sign that clause at the age of 18 ,when he did not have any plans in his mind about his future.At the age of 40+ for myself and my husband 50+ could plan for ourselves but whats the fault of our kids ? Why they should be deprived of the opportunities ,which their fellow Canadians enjoy by default .

This is really rediculous !

i think you are making it sound very extreme. if your kids are gone for certain years, it's not going to revoke their citizenship. but yes if you kids settle in UK, plan to work there their whole life and then expect to come back to canada when 65, they may have an issue doing it.

 

[chakrab]

naturalized citizens must stay in the country and pay taxes and contribute to the economy otherwise feel free to ......
Born Citizens have the liberty to work anywhere in the world if they like to.

there is a difference and has always been. you do get special benefits when you are born in a country. reason why a person can be a canadian citizen by just being born here and not living much in the country till he/she applies for citizenship. why are people so surprised? this is nothing new. i don't hear people complaining about why people born in canada but never stayed here, aren't going through the PR process.

 

[nguyentu2001]

My two uncles, retired when they were 55. went back to Vietnam to live, only come back to Canada once per year for 2 weeks. They have been doing that for about 11 years now...they seem not to have any problem. I think the point here is that as long as you don't commit any crimes, you will be fine!

 

[chakrab]

natural born citizens have special privileges, period. no point arguing there.

the real question should be, should current naturalized citizens fall under the same law? why should naturalized citizens be treated differently by the law based on the date of application?

 

[pompi]

My two uncles, retired when they were 55. went back to Vietnam to live, only come back to Canada once per year for 2 weeks. They have been doing that for about 11 years now...they seem not to have any problem. I think the point here is that as long as you don't commit any crimes, you will be fine!

Yes and thats what any future citizens want freedom of doing. The questions is whether its possible once this charter is through.

 

[informatics]

i think you are making it sound very extreme. if your kids are gone for certain years, it's not going to revoke their citizenship. but yes if you kids settle in UK, plan to work there their whole life and then expect to come back to canada when 65, they may have an issue doing it.

Well I really wish it to be true ,however I regret to say that its not that "black and white".There will be lot of "grey" areas regarding this clause and once you sign it ,you are at the mercy of the Minister.No one can guarantee that one's citizenship won't be revoked in such circumstances....

We are heading towards a two tier Canadian society.One with access to better opportunities simply they were born here or they became citizens before the C-24 bill became a law and others without them. :

 

[Swede]

What they're trying to do is to shame those who would use Canadian citizenship only as a means to get a "better" passport and/or an easy in to the USA.

Regardless of whether or not you think this is fair or warranted, they can not take your citizenship away even if you take your new passport and run off with it to the Old Country for the rest of your life, so there is no need to worry.

Declaring your intent to stay in the country is a gesture just like swearing your oath to the Queen.

 

[nguyentu2001]

What they're trying to do is to shame those who would use Canadian citizenship only as a means to get a "better" passport and/or an easy in to the USA.

Regardless of whether or not you think this is fair or warranted, they can not take your citizenship away even if you take your new passport and run off with it to the Old Country for the rest of your life, so there is no need to worry.

Declaring your intent to stay in the country is a gesture just like swearing your oath to the Queen.

I absolutely agree..haha no need to worry at all!!!

 

[marcus66502]

Declaring your intent to stay in the country is a gesture just like swearing your oath to the Queen.

Umm, no it's not.

Know what you're talking about. In the case of intent to stay in the country, the government can revoke your citizenship later on if it can prove you misrepresented your intent when you applied. They'll claim this is covered under fraud.

As for your oath to the Queen, I daresay your loyalty to Queen Elizabeth will never be tested in your lifetime. It's not like you can expect to be asked to go fight some distant war in the middle East in the name of the Queen. By the way, ... WOULD YOU get killed for the Queen of England? Be honest now ... you're about to take an oath that implies you should.

 

[informatics]

What they're trying to do is to shame those who would use Canadian citizenship only as a means to get a "better" passport and/or an easy in to the USA.

Regardless of whether or not you think this is fair or warranted, they can not take your citizenship away even if you take your new passport and run off with it to the Old Country for the rest of your life, so there is no need to worry.

Declaring your intent to stay in the country is a gesture just like swearing your oath to the Queen.

Ok ...lets analyze the other implications of this act.In my personal view,in this way Canadian government is itself downgrading its citizenship and immigration.Forget about people who have have already immigrated to Canada ,did not have any indication of that type of rule ,when they came to Canada,so they might accept it.However,what about the new applicants who have yet not applied for PR or still in the process ?

Do you think after this new bill the BRIGHTEST AND THE BEST will come to live in a country which limits their movements after getting citizenship....For sure NO ! In this way Canada would be attracting just the Refugees or only those immigrants which are not accepted anywhere else.

 

[marcus66502]

Do you think after this new bill the BRIGHTEST AND THE BEST will come to live in a country which limits their movements after getting citizenship....For sure NO ! In this way Canada would be attracting just the Refugees or only those immigrants which are not accepted anywhere else.

Aww c'mon buddy, get real!

"BIGHTEST AND BEST" is a worn-out cliche nowadays. This country (and many others), admits the people who can't get into the US and thus don't have a choice. You can't be so naive as to take official media hype at face value.

This is nothing unique to immigration. It's like that with university admissions. Can't get into Harvard? You're gonna take your second best choice, ... and so on.

Immigrants from dirt poor countries don't immigrate to Canada because PR status leads to citizenship. Most of them wouldn't have a clue what the citizenship requirements are when they apply to immigrate. They come here first and foremost for the economic opportunities. Like one of my professors used to say "You can gripe and philosophize all day long, but at the end of day, it's economics that dictates people's actions." Truth be told, Canada could be a lot worse and people from the third world would still be willing to come here.

 

[txboyscout]

Umm, no it's not.

Know what you're talking about. In the case of intent to stay in the country, the government can revoke your citizenship later on if it can prove you misrepresented your intent when you applied. They'll claim this is covered under fraud.

As for your oath to the Queen, I daresay your loyalty to Queen Elizabeth will never be tested in your lifetime. It's not like you can expect to be asked to go fight some distant war in the middle East in the name of the Queen. By the way, ... WOULD YOU get killed for the Queen of England? Be honest now ... you're about to take an oath that implies you should.

You are not taking the oath to the Queen, per se. I know you swear an oath to the Queen, her heirs and sucessors but in this context the Queen and Canada are interchangeable. She belongs to Canada and Canada belongs to her. So in essence you are swearing to protect Canada.

 

[txboyscout]

We can debate the intent to reside as much as we want but at the end of the day have to realize that the Govt grants citizenship to naturlized citizens. It can decide what conditions need to be met before citizenship is granted and can change these requirements any time they see fit.

Natural Born Citizens and Naturalized Citizens can never be the same. In extreme cases, the govt can decide to revoke citizenship for all naturlized citizens and send them packing to whatever country the belong to. This cannot be done with Natural Born Citizens. According to International law, a person cannot be left stateless. By law, any country can revoke your citizenship except your country of citizenship at birth. They are legally obligated to give you citizenship and all of the benefits associated with it, no matter what