Inland sponsorship - interview @ port of entry

[petrikbb]

I have been advising on the forum for several years and have over 12000 posts, so I am confident in the info that I have posted.

I would like to ask you, whether you know how long does the process of renouncing PR takes? I got my PR status a month ago, but it seems quite hard to sponsor my common-law partner inland. I would rather renounce my PR now and re-apply with her anew. Do you think it would work?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I would like to ask you, whether you know how long does the process of renouncing PR takes? I got my PR status a month ago, but it seems quite hard to sponsor my common-law partner inland. I would rather renounce my PR now and re-apply with her anew. Do you think it would work?

That is extreme. You are really making this situation out to be a lot harder than it really is.

Come to Canada. In the unlikely event that she is refused entry, decide after that.

 

[petrikbb]

That is extreme. You are really making this situation out to be a lot harder than it really is.

Come to Canada. In the unlikely event that she is refused entry, decide after that.

Yes. It is extreme. But I am asking because of my tests and exams still being valid until May next year. If I cancel my PR now and reapply, then I dont have to do the testing again.

 

[Will_PA]

What kind of evidence are you prepared to present to the officer? (return flight ticket, proving ties to home country, funds?)
Could we stay in touch? It would be of great help to know hot it all went down for you guys.

I just got through. It's all electronic machines doing landing cards at Toronto now. I did get sent to a desk afterwards.

They asked why I was there = visit

Which exemptions I exceeded = none

Oh so why were you sent to this desk? Ok you put duration of stay as 90 days, how come = wife offered a job so I'm visiting, I might leave earlier for my work in London but my return ticket currently Xmas

So you have a job in London = yes

Ok have a nice stay.

They didn't stamp my passport. All electronic now. Assume I have 6 month visa then.

I was slightly nervous because it would derail plans if it had gone badly, but quite smooth. Glad I researched on here just in case!

 

[petrikbb]

I just got through. It's all electronic machines doing landing cards at Toronto now. I did get sent to a desk afterwards.

They asked why I was there = visit

Which exemptions I exceeded = none

Oh so why were you sent to this desk? Ok you put duration of stay as 90 days, how come = wife offered a job so I'm visiting, I might leave earlier for my work in London but my return ticket currently Xmas

So you have a job in London = yes

Ok have a nice stay.

They didn't stamp my passport. All electronic now. Assume I have 6 month visa then.

I was slightly nervous because it would derail plans if it had gone badly, but quite smooth. Glad I researched on here just in case!

Good to hear. Congrats. Did you travel with your wife on the same flight? Were you interviewed together?

 

[petrikbb]

Be careful of the information you give here as it might cause major problème.

Inland sponsorship are always not the preferred option by IRCC. Declaring that you are coming as a visitor and intend to apply for inland sponsorship means you have a dual intentions. How do you then convince the officer that your intention is to visitor only and you will leave when your authorized stay ends? This is why most people with outland applications find it hard to get visitor's visa unless you are non-visa national, in which case you must declare dual intent. There are cases which applicants were turned back because they told Boarder officers that they are coming to apply for PR. There is à boarder issues TV channel that they show thèse cases.

Also paying for in land sponsorship fees in advance will not facilitate entry to Canada. This is relevant if you already have ongoing inland application and of proof of payment needs to be verified.

Also i think i wasn't clear here: I'm not saying common law partnerships are such difficult to prove. If you have monitored this forum for long, IRCC tends to request more documents from common law than married ones depending on the circumstance.

In a nuteshell, it's not necessary to debate over this.
My Advise:
Your partner should just enter as a visitor. You guys can travel together. Your partner's main intention should be just To visit you. As soon as you are in Canada you can begin your in land application together with OWP.

Also as Canuck said, your partner shouldn't bring many luggages as this will constitute their undeclared intention to remain in Canada.

Do you think its a good idea to accompany my partner in the visitor line although I am a PR? Or should I leave her to go through the visitor line alone to deal with it on her own?

 

[MsCyn]

I enter YUL last month with my husband who is a Canadian citizen, and I’m on visitor visa. We both lined up on citizen/pr line.
Immigration asked whats the purpose of our visit, while for him is back to his home country and me on the other hand honestly told the officer that I am moving here and applying PR inland. He didn’t make a big deal out of this and told me to go to Secondary Check because we brought money more than 10,000$ and a dog.

On the secondary check, officer was not sure if I can get my PR in less than 6 months and he cannot make a decision so he ask another officer to check us up. Just a few questions such as:
- have you applied?
- do you know the procedure of applying pr, have you done any research ?
- do you know that you cannot work or study while on visitor visa?
- how much money do you have right now? and where’s the money came from? (take notE that he asked me this because i brought more than 10,000$ which i declare)
- do you have any travel insurance with you right now?
- where will you settle in canada? Which province?
- do you have your pr application with you right now?

I know that I will need proof so I came prepared and bring all the complete application including the fee payment for PR as well as pictures etc. I also explained the reason why I ended up want to apply inland and have not submit it yet as I was waiting for my apartment lease to be approved. My husband too explain the situation and the officer came to a conclusion that we’re not fooling around and that we are serious about this so he let us go and said not to wait 6 months to submit my application. He said he rarely receives this kind of case, like applyin PR inland.

Anyways as long as youre prepared and get everything together, there is no reason for them to deny entry for a visitor who's married to a citizen and plan to apply PR inland.
Btw, I always go through the canadian passport or pr line with my husband, not a problem.

 

[petrikbb]

I enter YUL last month with my husband who is a Canadian citizen, and I’m on visitor visa. We both lined up on citizen/pr line.
Immigration asked whats the purpose of our visit, while for him is back to his home country and me on the other hand honestly told the officer that I am moving here and applying PR inland. He didn’t make a big deal out of this and told me to go to Secondary Check because we brought money more than 10,000$ and a dog.

On the secondary check, officer was not sure if I can get my PR in less than 6 months and he cannot make a decision so he ask another officer to check us up. Just a few questions such as:
- have you applied?
- do you know the procedure of applying pr, have you done any research ?
- do you know that you cannot work or study while on visitor visa?
- how much money do you have right now? and where’s the money came from? (take notE that he asked me this because i brought more than 10,000$ which i declare)
- do you have any travel insurance with you right now?
- where will you settle in canada? Which province?
- do you have your pr application with you right now?

I know that I will need proof so I came prepared and bring all the complete application including the fee payment for PR as well as pictures etc. I also explained the reason why I ended up want to apply inland and have not submit it yet as I was waiting for my apartment lease was approved. My husband too explain the situation and the officer came to a conclusion that we’re not fooling around and that we are serious about this so he let us go and said not to wait 6 months to submit my application. He said he rarely receives this kind of case, like applyin PR inland.

Anyways as long as youre prepared and get everything together, there is no reason for them to deny entry for a visitor who's married to a citizen and plan to apply PR inland.
Btw, I always go through the canadian passport or pr line with my husband, not a problem.

Thank you. Just few questions.

1. Did you have an application filled by yourself or drafted by a lawyer's firm?
2. When sent for the secondary, was your husband allowed to be in the same room?

 

[MsCyn]

petrikbb

1. Yes , I filled it up myself.
2. Yes, we both go to the secondary check because we share one customs & declaration paper. Counted as one family.

If youre PR and youre married to your partner, you can go together as one family eventhough shes not citizen or pr.

 

[petrikbb]

Does it count the same if we are common-law partners?

 

[petrikbb]

petrikbb

1. Yes , I filled it up myself.
2. Yes, we both go to the secondary check because we share one customs & declaration paper. Counted as one family.

If youre PR and youre married to your partner, you can go together as one family eventhough shes not citizen or pr.

Does it count the same if we are common-law partners?

 

[Will_PA]

Good to hear. Congrats. Did you travel with your wife on the same flight? Were you interviewed together?

Yes with wife. No we queued separately. They just want to make sure you're not going to overstay, would be my main take-away.

 

[petrikbb]

Yes with wife. No we queued separately. They just want to make sure you're not going to overstay, would be my main take-away.

So did you get 6 months then? What length of state did you declare in on the electronic machine?

 

[Will_PA]

So did you get 6 months then? What length of state did you declare in on the electronic machine?

I assume so as no stamp... I said 90 days as I have a return ticket for UK at xmas

 

[MsCyn]

Does it count the same if we are common-law partners?

For this I am not really sure. There were a couple of times I enter Canada together with him before we got married and we always go together as a family. I dont think they are making a big deal out of this.

And just an update, I recently exited Quebec by car to US for a day trip and when I came back, I was asked a lot of questions more or less the same as the immigration at YUL. They expect you to have the PR application at all times (if you have not submitted it), she also asked for our marriage certificate. I find it ridiculous but it’s the only thing that would convince them that we’re serious about applying PR. At the border, the officer asked for my permanent address and update it on the system. Honestly, if possible dont leave the country, lessons learned.