INLAND APPLICATIONS 2012

[nervousme]

Got some terrific news yesterday. I received an email from CIC stating they had completed processing of my application, and asking me to pay the $490 RPRF fee. A few hours later I got another email stating my landing interview would be February 18th. Finally after 28 months it is almost over!

Congratulations!
Great news after such a Long wait.
Gives us others hope

 

[bjohnson921]

It gets worse now for me. My ex-wife called late last night from Pennsylvania to tell me that there is a letter from the government of Canada for me. She read some of it over the phone, and it sounds like I have to now repeat the same things I did back in July 2013 with regards to getting my kids medicals along with sending applications for my children, copies of birth certificates, passports, photos, etc. This is all in spite of the fact the letter/email response I received very recently from Los Angeles (who likely is who sent this letter to them) told me I would not need to worry about the fact that more than a year has passed since they had their medicals since they were non-accompanying and that they sent the information from completing that process to Vegreville back in February 2014.

This seems like a never ending and expensive process that will likely not lead to a positive conclusion. If I do all they ask and submit their medicals in 60 days from the date of the letter, costing me $1000+ USD for the medicals, when they complete that, likely I will have to go get another medical since I did my second one in May 2014 (after receiving a letter in April 2014 asking for one as my first one was November 2012). Then if I have to wait like I did since then, the kids medicals will expire again. Sooner or later, someone will say too much time has passed since I submitted my application and I am denied and will have to move back to the US to work and cannot re-apply to live in the house I am paying a mortgage for with my Canadian-born wife.

I am very depressed and frustrated because I have done all CIC has asked and spent more and more money on their requests, and the only issue has been that they take so long that by the time they look at the file the medicals, they've expired. Add to that the conflicting messages I get from LA and the fact I cannot talk to someone at CIC to look at the big picture to consider what I have had to do and realize that this is all from their delays in taking action. Add to that also that my ex-wife has alienated my children from me, and it was hard enough to get them to cooperate and be examined the first time and warned me that they won't be as willing to cooperate this time, so I may even fail at getting this done, which I understand CIC has a hard time understanding and accepting.

 

[bjohnson921]

I made a timeline of my application process:

15 Feb 1999 – Hired by my employer in PA

12 Mar 2010 – Received work permit at Fort Erie, ON valid through 12 Mar 2013

1 Apr 2010 – Moved from PA to ON

5 Apr 2010 – Received SIN number; began working for the same US employer from Burlington, ON

11 Nov 2010 – Marriage to a Canadian-born citizen

20 Mar 2012 – mailed application for permanent residence (me) and application to sponsor (my wife)

29 Mar 2012 – CIC received application(s)

21 Jul 2012 – letter to my wife that her application was received 29 Mar 2012

21 Sep 2012 - purchased home in Perth, ON where I now reside - informed CIC of move from Toronto to Perth

11 Oct 2012 – received letters from CIC: a) My wife has met eligibility as a sponsor, and b) I met eligibility requirements, request for medical examination, notification that non-accompanying family members on the application will be contacted by the Seattle office for immigration examination (medicals).

19 Oct 2012 – Received open work permit in mail, valid 11 Oct 2012 through 31 Oct 2014.

26 Nov 2012 – had my CIC medical examination performed in Kingston, ON

So far so good... but this is where the whole thing derails:

29 Jan 2013 – date of received letters from Seattle office that the consulate is closed, that Los Angeles will continue examinations for dependents, and to refrain from sending enquiries to L.A. consulate for at least 90 days after receipt of the letter (Feb 2013).

14 June 2013 – received letter from L.A. requiring medicals for non-accompanying dependents (all 4) plus IMM 0008, IMM 5669, IMM 5406, birth certificates, passport bio page, colour photos meeting CIC requirements within 60 days.

24 June 2013 – Ex-wife refused to allow me to have children examined. I contacted my lawyer in Pittsburgh, and finally she relented 26 June and I could schedule appointments.

29 July 2013 – medicals performed on three youngest children in Pittsburgh, PA. Oldest child, age 19, refused to comply. I had subsequent discussions with call centre and emails with LA that my oldest daughter refused and had legal rights to decline (I had no legal rights to force her to comply).

2 Aug 2013 – emailed L.A. to inform them of the medical results being sent.

6 Sept 2013 – emailed L.A. enquiring on whether medical information was received as I had not heard from them.

1 Oct 2013 – received email response from 6 Sept email to L.A. concerning my oldest child enquiring if she lives in the US.

2 Oct 2013 – replied to L.A. affirming she lives in the US, attends college there, and informing that she refused to be examined by a CIC physician.

24 Nov 2013 – letter informing me that my oldest daughter needed to be examined and information submitted by 24 Feb 2014 else my application would be refused.

27 Nov 2013 – emailed my daughter and begged for her to comply with CIC medical exam request.

28 Nov 2013 – email from my daughter refusing to comply, stating that I have no rights to force her to do so because of her age.

29 Dec 2013 – sent letters to CIC detailing all I had attempted to do to make my daughter comply and the reason I could not force her including her quoted responses to me.

3 Feb 2014 – sent notarized letter (lawyer’s stamp) to CIC requesting removal of the requirement to have my oldest daughter examined

6 Feb 2014 – L.A. informed Vegreville that the 3 youngest children met the requirements and passed medical examinations.

3 Mar 2014 – letter from CIC stating why I said I could not have my oldest daughter examined, requiring her to be examined, and requiring compliance by 3 June 2014

4 Mar 2014 – sent statutory declaration (lawyer’s stamp) to CIC requesting removal of the requirement to have my oldest daughter examined

20 Mar 2014 – letter from CIC accepting removal of the requirement to have my oldest daughter examined

I thought things were on track again now.

25 Apr 2014 – letter from CIC informing a refund of $60 from the $1250 spent on the application.

30 Apr 2014 – letter from CIC requesting I have another medical exam

8 May 2014 – had my 2nd CIC medical examination performed in Kingston, ON

26 May 2014 – blood work from medical was non-conclusive and I would need another but needed to wait for 4 weeks

13 June 2014 – blood work re-done

23 June 2014 – lab results back – blood results non-reactive – final medical exam results submitted to CIC by Kingston doctor

Shortly after this, my application status on cic.gc.ca showed "Medical results received". Now I just needed to wait, yes?

16 Sept 2014 – submitted application for OWP renewal.

19 Oct 2014 – OWP renewal application approved, effective 30 Sep 2014, expires 30 Sep 2016

Since so much time had passed, I decided to find out if there were any issues.

22 Jan 2015 – Called CIC call centre to enquire on application status. Call centre agent checked and said that all they were waiting for was info from L.A. and recommended I contact L.A. which I did.

23 Jan 2015 – letter from L.A. informing that they submitted the medical results for the three youngest children in Feb 2014 and sent Vegreville notice that the three youngest met the requirements on 6 Feb 2014. “The results are expired but since they are non-accompanying this should not be an issue”. I should follow up with Vegreville.

26 Jan 2015 – called CIC call centre to inform them of what L.A. said. Call centre agent says they just need more time to process the application and there was nothing they could do to let Vegreville know that L.A. sent the info back in Feb 2014.

7 Feb 2015 – received call from ex-wife that CIC (L.A.?) sent a letter to me in PA requesting new medicals for the non-accompanying children along with other information (I do not have a copy of this letter to detail it but assume it is like the original one).

Now I am afraid as I know CIC requires these non-accompanying children's medicals, which I had to fight my evil ex-wife to get done the first time, and she has already made it clear I will have to fight again and will not win this time. If the letter was accurate that "since they are non-accompanying, [the fact that the medicals have expired] should not be an issue", why did they immediately turn around and write a letter stating they required new ones? And why did they write to me in PA when CIC knows I am in Ontario and have been since 2010? I am assuming that they are requiring the same as what they needed before, but what if the letter asks for something else in addition? How can I comply with CIC when I don't even have a copy of the letter they sent to PA? Where can I get help with this?

 

[nervousme]

I made a timeline of my application process:

So far so good... but this is where the whole thing derails:

I thought things were on track again now.

Shortly after this, my application status on cic.gc.ca showed "Medical results received". Now I just needed to wait, yes?

Since so much time had passed, I decided to find out if there were any issues.

Now I am afraid as I know CIC requires these non-accompanying children's medicals, which I had to fight my evil ex-wife to get done the first time, and she has already made it clear I will have to fight again and will not win this time. If the letter was accurate that "since they are non-accompanying, [the fact that the medicals have expired] should not be an issue", why did they immediately turn around and write a letter stating they required new ones? And why did they write to me in PA when CIC knows I am in Ontario and have been since 2010? I am assuming that they are requiring the same as what they needed before, but what if the letter asks for something else in addition? How can I comply with CIC when I don't even have a copy of the letter they sent to PA? Where can I get help with this?

I am so sorry to hear of your long process. It's like a visions circle. They take so long to process things that people are having to re-do them again.

Whenever you do not receive something. From CiC you can call the call Center and ask them to send you a copy of the correspondence.
I am sure you already know this as you have been dealing with cic for so long but just confirm your mailing address and email address they have on file for you. Then ask them for a copy. Then you can see for yourself what they are asking for.

Also not every call agent knows what they are talking about. I've called them also and they said things that were incorrect. I then call back and try to talk to someone else. I've been in a panic a few times for misinformation from a call Center agent.
Some are great but others don't really read what's in your file correctly.
Good luck. Keep us posted

 

[Di_vas]

Finally after 34 months I have got my PR card. Received on Feb 6, 2015. Good luck to all of you!

 

[sniper23]

Finally after 34 months I have got my PR card. Received on Feb 6, 2015. Good luck to all of you!

34 months is a long time.why so long thou????

 

[screech339]

Finally after 34 months I have got my PR card. Received on Feb 6, 2015. Good luck to all of you!

Congrats on getting your PR card. I have updated your status on spreadsheet.

Screech339

 

[screech339]

@Psalm91

I have updated your status on spreadsheet as well. Haven't forgotten you. Again congrats on becoming a PR finally.

Screech339

 

[bjohnson921]

Congrats, Di_vas!

Screech, please let me know when I am the last one on "inland applications 2012" whose application is not completed yet.

 

[screech339]

Congrats, Di_vas!

Screech, please let me know when I am the last one on "inland applications 2012" whose application is not completed yet.

Sorry to hear about your PR processing issue especially dealing with a very uncooperative ex-wife and oldest daughter.

Hope you get DM soon. I can't say that you are the last one as 30 others have not gotten DM yet. There are a couple of 2012 applicants who are still waiting for DM. The rest are pretty much fallen off the wayside in providing feedbacks/updates on their statuses.

Screech339

 

[sniper23]

Sorry to hear about your PR processing issue especially dealing with a very uncooperative ex-wife and oldest daughter.

Hope you get DM soon. I can't say that you are the last one as 30 others have not gotten DM yet. There are a couple of 2012 applicants who are still waiting for DM. The rest are pretty much fallen off the wayside in providing feedbacks/updates on their statuses.

Screech339

i have a question why is it that application taking this long to processing really????

 

[screech339]

i have a question why is it that application taking this long to processing really????

I believe the issue with that application is the difficulty in getting medical tests done on the children. Due to this, the application became non-routine and ended up being sent to LA. Once it get sent there, the application process will get even bogged down even more, dragging it out longer, exceeding the original medical tests validity. This means the children must get their medical test done again. The ex-wife is again being very uncooperative with him and CIC's request. This causes more delays to his application.

Screech339

 

[sniper23]

I believe the issue with that application is the difficulty in getting medical tests done on the children. Due to this, the application became non-routine and ended up being sent to LA. Once it get sent there, the application process will get even bogged down even more, dragging it out longer, exceeding the original medical tests validity. This means the children must get their medical test done again. The ex-wife is again being very uncooperative with him and CIC's request. This causes more delays to his application.

Screech339then so basicallyis the same thing going to happen to me then..because my child is non accompany..i was hoping that they wont askin for medical for my child.because mi and the mother not getting along well.i didnt have passport for him too.

 

[screech339]

Due to the rule that in order to get DM, all medical results must remain valid at time of issuing COPR, regardless if children are accompanying or not.

Screech339

 

[sniper23]

Due to the rule that in order to get DM, all medical results must remain valid at time of issuing COPR, regardless if children are accompanying or not.

Screech339

damn i guess i better get on that then..in my country to do medical u need to have ur passport....one question like how hes non accompany need potos too???