INFO SHARING EXPLAINED

[ahmedwaly]

info that are shared in info sharing between US and canada

Appendix B Information that may be shared [Article 5 of the SMU]

1. Name 2. Alias(es) 3. Gender 4. Physical description 5. Date of birth 6. Country of birth 7. Country of last permanent residence 8. Nationality or nationalities 9. Biometrics including photographs and fingerprints 10. Work history 11. Military service 12. Links with terrorist and/or organized crime groups 13. Citizenship or immigration enforcement status and history 14. Travel carrier information 15. Passport and travel document information 16. Personal identification numbers 17. Travel routing, itinerary and history 18. Telephone numbers 19. Addresses 20. Marital status and family composition 21. Immigration status 22. Previous immigration violations 23. Outstanding immigration and criminal warrants for arrest 24. Criminal history and convictions for which no pardon has been granted in Canada or the United States 25. Occupational information 26. Education 27. Grounds of inadmissibility 28. Grounds of removal 29. Documents submitted in support of an application to CIC, INS or DOS or to their successors 30. Other criminal and security intelligence relevant to the purposes set out in 5.1. [Article 2 of the SMU] 31. Other information not listed above, provided it is relevant to the request and consistent with the purposes set ou

see this too
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in02-eng.pdf

 

[jeff198901]

Great post

 

[Miraclejj]

info that are shared in info sharing between US and canada

Appendix B Information that may be shared [Article 5 of the SMU]

1. Name 2. Alias(es) 3. Gender 4. Physical description 5. Date of birth 6. Country of birth 7. Country of last permanent residence 8. Nationality or nationalities 9. Biometrics including photographs and fingerprints 10. Work history 11. Military service 12. Links with terrorist and/or organized crime groups 13. Citizenship or immigration enforcement status and history 14. Travel carrier information 15. Passport and travel document information 16. Personal identification numbers 17. Travel routing, itinerary and history 18. Telephone numbers 19. Addresses 20. Marital status and family composition 21. Immigration status 22. Previous immigration violations 23. Outstanding immigration and criminal warrants for arrest 24. Criminal history and convictions for which no pardon has been granted in Canada or the United States 25. Occupational information 26. Education 27. Grounds of inadmissibility 28. Grounds of removal 29. Documents submitted in support of an application to CIC, INS or DOS or to their successors 30. Other criminal and security intelligence relevant to the purposes set out in 5.1. [Article 2 of the SMU] 31. Other information not listed above, provided it is relevant to the request and consistent with the purposes set ou

see this too
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in02-eng.pdf

To be more clear, the info shares between US, Canada, Japan, Australia, UK and New Zealand are only apply to non permanent residence. They don't share info to each other of permanent residence or their Citizens

 

[ahmedwaly]

To be more clear, the info shares between US, Canada, Japan, Australia, UK and New Zealand are only apply to non permanent residence. They don't share info to each other of permanent residence or their Citizens

Not true as it is treaty between Canada and USA only
The difference between Canadain and US residents , citizens or foreign nationals is how thier data treated kept and circulated based on privacy act and the guides in both countries clarify it nothing supports what you said .
They share any info to protect homeland in any cases.
The part of AUS, UK, New Zealand can be under any other treatment but not Info Sharing .
Even to be more clear Info Sharing only mention US as partner. Plus each country have right to disclose or not what they find important to the case.
I explained based on facts and sources not just forum speech.

 

[ahmedwaly]

Great post

Glad it helped you to know what they share.

 

[Miraclejj]

Not true as it is treaty between Canada and USA only
The difference between Canadain and US residents , citizens or foreign nationals is how thier data treated kept and circulated based on privacy act and the guides in both countries clarify it nothing supports what you said .
They share any info to protect homeland in any cases.
The part of AUS, UK, New Zealand can be under any other treatment but not Info Sharing .
Even to be more clear Info Sharing only mention US as partner. Plus each country have right to disclose or not what they find important to the case.
I explained based on facts and sources not just forum speech.

The member countries, namely: the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, agreed to share biometric data from applications for visa and other immigration benefits of potential immigrants to jointly combat illegalimmigration under the High Value Protocol Data Sharing (HVDS) initiative.Oct 21, 2015

The same process would apply in reverse when a third-country national applies to theU.S. for a visa or claims asylum. Biographic immigration information sharing is set to begin in 2013, and biometric sharing in 2014. ... Under the Treaty, information will not be shared on Canadian or U.S. citizens or permanent residents.

 

[ahmedwaly]

The member countries, namely: the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, agreed to share biometric data from applications for visa and other immigration benefits of potential immigrants to jointly combat illegalimmigration under the High Value Protocol Data Sharing (HVDS) initiative.Oct 21, 2015

The same process would apply in reverse when a third-country national applies to theU.S. for a visa or claims asylum. Biographic immigration information sharing is set to begin in 2013, and biometric sharing in 2014. ... Under the Treaty, information will not be shared on Canadian or U.S. citizens or permanent residents.

When you read clearly the data is not only about immigration as it show exit entry data plus conviction, again will explain you in another way how it works .
Info sharing is only between USA and Canada
Each country have thier own treaties specially Canada with crown countries such as UK New Zealand and Australia. And USA too both collect and enter into system for share in specific cases.
If what you say was correct how they bust convicted criminals and overstayers which are citizens, is for all including citizens and PR holders so they can recall it at any port of entry or Diplomatic office and others . Please read the info in Link and you will get more information. The page show they can’t share info to third part without consent of US or Canada the owner of info which makes that open share game with all western countries not true they send some info only based on case by case and with thier own legal discretion.

 

[Miraclejj]

When you read clearly the data is not only about immigration as it show exit entry data plus conviction, again will explain you in another way how it works .
Info sharing is only between USA and Canada
Each country have thier own treaties specially Canada with crown countries such as UK New Zealand and Australia. And USA too both collect and enter into system for share in specific cases.
If what you say was correct how they bust convicted criminals and overstayers which are citizens, is for all including citizens and PR holders so they can recall it at any port of entry or Diplomatic office and others . Please read the info in Link and you will get more information. The page show they can’t share info to third part without consent of US or Canada the owner of info which makes that open share game with all western countries not true they send some info only based on case by case and with thier own legal discretion.

One thing you are right that the info sharing not apply to each other's permanent residence and citizens only apply to US and Canada, not the other three treaty members, namely UK, Australia and New Zealand.

 

[ahmedwaly]

What you shared can be true but not under Info sharing. As they use other methods to collect data.
Plus the citizens thing is only how they keep or circulating data in compare to foreign nationals.
As for example if Canadain citizens overstayed visa in USA is immigration violation whatever is citizen or not and thus would come up in info sharing exit and entry data if applied for PR in US or citizenship in case was only PR in Canada.
Also convicted criminals and wanted ones will show in this. Even logic will show that not only foreign nationals would pose threat to national Security it can be anyone there are many cases of entry denial to citizens based on fails admissibility screening between US and Canada.

 

[ahmedwaly]

One thing you are right that the info sharing not apply to each other's permanent residence and citizens only apply to US and Canada, not the other three treaty members, namely UK, Australia and New Zealand.

But honestly I’m Happy of your contribution in this subject as it was black box for many and me myself will keep searching and you too if find any new info or sources that might help people put it here .

 

[Hammo36]

If you get denied to Canada will the usa see that information if you apply to visit them?

 

[Nodi]

Not true as it is treaty between Canada and USA only
The difference between Canadain and US residents , citizens or foreign nationals is how thier data treated kept and circulated based on privacy act and the guides in both countries clarify it nothing supports what you said .
They share any info to protect homeland in any cases.
The part of AUS, UK, New Zealand can be under any other treatment but not Info Sharing .
Even to be more clear Info Sharing only mention US as partner. Plus each country have right to disclose or not what they find important to the case.
I explained based on facts and sources not just forum speech.[/QU hi people are saying Australia and Canada share data with each other m I don't think that's true

 

[Nodi]

Eventhough consultants in every forum are saying . AUS and Canada share data and if someone forgets to mention it . Any others country refusal .CanaCanada wil give ban for 5 ye

 

[Nodi]

And it takes millions to Collaborate from one country to another . What I know USA spent 4000 crores to start sharing data with Canada. I don't think any country will spend this much money only for info sharing .

 

[Nodi]

Yes Canada and us share data only
Rest countries' do not share data as Canada is not free to check every person data in the computers