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M33

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Oct 18, 2023
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We have applied inland for family class - spousal and last week we received a letter from IRCC that said my sponsor is in default and hence is ineligible to sponsor. I received a letter as well where they said I have 30 days to prove that I have an eligible sponsor. We already took care of the default. What should we do now?
Will IRCC take into consideration that the debt has been cleared or I will have to submit another application?
 

scylla

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We have applied inland for family class - spousal and last week we received a letter from IRCC that said my sponsor is in default and hence is ineligible to sponsor. I received a letter as well where they said I have 30 days to prove that I have an eligible sponsor. We already took care of the default. What should we do now?
Will IRCC take into consideration that the debt has been cleared or I will have to submit another application?
Was this a social assistance repayment that your spouse had to make?

Submit evidence that the default has been cleared and that you have made the social assistance repayment. You want to include written evidence from the province involved confirming the default has been cleared.

We have seen a handful of cases here previously with this situation. I believe that approval is still possible if you submit the right evidence to show the default has been cleared. Respond asap with strong evidence and a good LOE and hope for the best.
 
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roya_moj

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Oct 23, 2024
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Hi there! I am reaching out due to sponsor eligibility refusal and writing to seek your guidance regarding the issue.

My sponsorship eligibility was recently refused by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) due to being in default of a previous sponsorship from 2017. Despite this, I chose to continue with the application, and the IRCC has sent the file to the visa office. As part of the process, my spouse’s fingerprints have been requested.

I have reached out to social assistance to inquire about any outstanding debt and the procedure for repayment. Unfortunately, I have been informed that clearing this debt and having social assistance confirm repayment to IRCC could take up to 4 months, or even longer. According to the refusal letter, IRCC will amend my immigration file once they receive confirmation from the provincial government that the debt has been fully repaid.

At this point, I am uncertain about the best course of action. Should I withdraw the current application and reapply once my debt is paid off, or is it possible to expect that IRCC will hold off on a final decision and restore my eligibility once they receive confirmation from social assistance? Is there any chance that my application can continue and eventually receive approval?

In addition IRCC has mentioned in the letter of refusal the following: "Once the provincial government advises Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) that final repayment has been made, you will no longer be in default and your immigration file will be amended to reflect this information."

I appreciate your guidance if anyone has any information about a similar case and letting me know.
 

Queryquery

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Jan 27, 2024
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Hi there! I am reaching out due to sponsor eligibility refusal and writing to seek your guidance regarding the issue.

My sponsorship eligibility was recently refused by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) due to being in default of a previous sponsorship from 2017. Despite this, I chose to continue with the application, and the IRCC has sent the file to the visa office. As part of the process, my spouse’s fingerprints have been requested.

I have reached out to social assistance to inquire about any outstanding debt and the procedure for repayment. Unfortunately, I have been informed that clearing this debt and having social assistance confirm repayment to IRCC could take up to 4 months, or even longer. According to the refusal letter, IRCC will amend my immigration file once they receive confirmation from the provincial government that the debt has been fully repaid.

At this point, I am uncertain about the best course of action. Should I withdraw the current application and reapply once my debt is paid off, or is it possible to expect that IRCC will hold off on a final decision and restore my eligibility once they receive confirmation from social assistance? Is there any chance that my application can continue and eventually receive approval?

In addition IRCC has mentioned in the letter of refusal the following: "Once the provincial government advises Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) that final repayment has been made, you will no longer be in default and your immigration file will be amended to reflect this information."

I appreciate your guidance if anyone has any information about a similar case and letting me know.
Hi, your application is already refused and there is nothing that you can or may do about this one. The fee will be returned back to you. What you need to do now is pay off the debt, gather all proof that the debt has been paid off and re apply. In your new application you will have to mentionned that you got a previous refusal due to that specific debt and provide them the proof that it's been cleared. You will have to pay the fee again and re do biometrics. As for medical if it's already done, just upload the medical paper.
 

roya_moj

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Oct 23, 2024
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Hi, your application is already refused and there is nothing that you can or may do about this one. The fee will be returned back to you. What you need to do now is pay off the debt, gather all proof that the debt has been paid off and re apply. In your new application you will have to mentionned that you got a previous refusal due to that specific debt and provide them the proof that it's been cleared. You will have to pay the fee again and re do biometrics. As for medical if it's already done, just upload the medical paper.
Thank you for your prompt response! I will proceed with withdrawing and reapplying. Do you recommend submitting the new application as soon as the social assistance repayment is made, or should I wait until Ontario Social Assistance officially communicates with IRCC to update the sponsor’s clearance?

The sponsor will likely be cleared by the end of November 2024, but Ontario Social Assistance mentioned it could take up to two months for them to process the paperwork and notify IRCC. So, I’m wondering if it's possible to submit the new application as soon as the debt is paid, or if we should wait for the official clearance update from IRCC?
 

M33

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Oct 18, 2023
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Thank you for your prompt response! I will proceed with withdrawing and reapplying. Do you recommend submitting the new application as soon as the social assistance repayment is made, or should I wait until Ontario Social Assistance officially communicates with IRCC to update the sponsor’s clearance?

The sponsor will likely be cleared by the end of November 2024, but Ontario Social Assistance mentioned it could take up to two months for them to process the paperwork and notify IRCC. So, I’m wondering if it's possible to submit the new application as soon as the debt is paid, or if we should wait for the official clearance update from IRCC?
You may reapply right away if you wish to. In my case we got a letter from the social assistance recovery program which we submitted along with the new application. However IRCC will verify the information with them again (showed on our gcms notes) and this takes time. My eligibility was cleared only in May 2024 and we applied on November 2023.
 

roya_moj

Newbie
Oct 23, 2024
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You may reapply right away if you wish to. In my case we got a letter from the social assistance recovery program which we submitted along with the new application. However IRCC will verify the information with them again (showed on our gcms notes) and this takes time. My eligibility was cleared only in May 2024 and we applied on November 2023.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Could you please inform me how long it typically takes to receive the debt invoice from social assistance? My husband, who resides in Ontario, has been told it could take 6 to 8 weeks for them to issue any invoice. Additionally, will the social assistance recovery program provide us with the repayment confirmation letter immediately, or will we need to wait to receive that as well?

He has contacted them 2-3 times so far to follow up on the issue. Is there anything else he can do to speed up the repayment process?
 

M33

Full Member
Oct 18, 2023
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Thanks for sharing your experience! Could you please inform me how long it typically takes to receive the debt invoice from social assistance? My husband, who resides in Ontario, has been told it could take 6 to 8 weeks for them to issue any invoice. Additionally, will the social assistance recovery program provide us with the repayment confirmation letter immediately, or will we need to wait to receive that as well?

He has contacted them 2-3 times so far to follow up on the issue. Is there anything else he can do to speed up the repayment process?
We were lucky with this one. While going through our old emails, we found that back then someone emailed the sponsor about paying the debt. We contacted the person and were told to make the payment at service BC. Once payment was made, we emailed the receipt to the person at recovery program and he sent us the letter stating that the debt has been cleared.
I guess once you get the payment receipt you can send your application and when you get the letter from the recovery program, send it as a web form. In your letter of explanation do mention that you are attaching the receipt for now to show that you paid the debt.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,836
22,108
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thank you for your prompt response! I will proceed with withdrawing and reapplying. Do you recommend submitting the new application as soon as the social assistance repayment is made, or should I wait until Ontario Social Assistance officially communicates with IRCC to update the sponsor’s clearance?

The sponsor will likely be cleared by the end of November 2024, but Ontario Social Assistance mentioned it could take up to two months for them to process the paperwork and notify IRCC. So, I’m wondering if it's possible to submit the new application as soon as the debt is paid, or if we should wait for the official clearance update from IRCC?
I would wait for official clearance before you reapply so that you can submit that as part of the application.
 

roya_moj

Newbie
Oct 23, 2024
7
0
We were lucky with this one. While going through our old emails, we found that back then someone emailed the sponsor about paying the debt. We contacted the person and were told to make the payment at service BC. Once payment was made, we emailed the receipt to the person at recovery program and he sent us the letter stating that the debt has been cleared.
I guess once you get the payment receipt you can send your application and when you get the letter from the recovery program, send it as a web form. In your letter of explanation do mention that you are attaching the receipt for now to show that you paid the debt.
That makes sense! just one more question. Have you received the sponsor eligibility letter since reapplying? And do you have an estimate for how long it might take to reach a final decision in similar cases?
 

M33

Full Member
Oct 18, 2023
32
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That makes sense! just one more question. Have you received the sponsor eligibility letter since reapplying? And do you have an estimate for how long it might take to reach a final decision in similar cases?
As already mentioned, IRCC will verify the information. We got eligibility approval in May 2024, almost 7 months after submitting. We are currently waiting for Portal confirmation to upload photo for PR card.
 

roya_moj

Newbie
Oct 23, 2024
7
0
As already mentioned, IRCC will verify the information. We got eligibility approval in May 2024, almost 7 months after submitting. We are currently waiting for Portal confirmation to upload photo for PR card.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Wishing you the best of luck!
 

roya_moj

Newbie
Oct 23, 2024
7
0
Good day everyone,

I have received my social assistance invoice, completed the payment online, and am now waiting to receive a confirmation letter from the social assistance office. In the meantime, I am preparing the documents to reapply.

I have encountered two questions in the "Sponsorship Agreement and Undertaking" form that are a bit confusing, and I would appreciate your insights:

  1. Question 5:
    "Have you submitted a previous application in respect of which a final decision has not been made for the person being sponsored and their family members?"
    Since we requested to withdraw the previous application (which had been forwarded to the Visa Office after the sponsorship was refused), and we are no longer waiting for a final decision, should the answer be NO?
  2. Question 9:
    "Have persons you previously sponsored or their family members received social assistance during the validity period of the undertaking?"
    Given that it is now clear there was a debt due to the previous sponsorship (which is currently being cleared), should the answer to this question be YES?
Thank you in advance for your guidance.
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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Good day everyone,

I have received my social assistance invoice, completed the payment online, and am now waiting to receive a confirmation letter from the social assistance office. In the meantime, I am preparing the documents to reapply.

I have encountered two questions in the "Sponsorship Agreement and Undertaking" form that are a bit confusing, and I would appreciate your insights:

  1. Question 5:
    "Have you submitted a previous application in respect of which a final decision has not been made for the person being sponsored and their family members?"
    Since we requested to withdraw the previous application (which had been forwarded to the Visa Office after the sponsorship was refused), and we are no longer waiting for a final decision, should the answer be NO?
  2. Question 9:
    "Have persons you previously sponsored or their family members received social assistance during the validity period of the undertaking?"
    Given that it is now clear there was a debt due to the previous sponsorship (which is currently being cleared), should the answer to this question be YES?
Thank you in advance for your guidance.
My suggestion is that whatever you respond, include an explanation letter about the circumstances.

How i would repsond:
1) No (explain no final decision was made because it was withdrawn).
2) Yes, and explain.

Even if you answered the opposite to each of these and explained, it should be clear.