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Ineligibility After Eligibility

SDGJHB

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Jan 28, 2017
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Has anyone experienced the following?

I did the eligibility test and the result was positive. I proceeded to complete the Express Entry application and received a notification almost immediately that the application is not eligible. I then created a new profile and redid the whole process with the same outcomes. Further, I didn't receive a Q number or personal profile number.

How is it possible that the Express Entry outcome is different to the eligibility test? I did all this in one day so it's not like any requirements changed.
 

CanadaWeCome

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SDGJHB said:
Has anyone experienced the following?

I did the eligibility test and the result was positive. I proceeded to complete the Express Entry application and received a notification almost immediately that the application is not eligible. I then created a new profile and redid the whole process with the same outcomes. Further, I didn't receive a Q number or personal profile number.

How is it possible that the Express Entry outcome is different to the eligibility test? I did all this in one day so it's not like any requirements changed.
That is because you must have fell out of 67/100 points on FSW grid, because of either Age, IELTS expiry, etc.
 

xpressentry

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IELTS Request
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File Transfer...
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28-03-2017
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VISA ISSUED...
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It could also be the funds that have increased.
 

gappy31600

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SDGJHB said:
Has anyone experienced the following?

I did the eligibility test and the result was positive. I proceeded to complete the Express Entry application and received a notification almost immediately that the application is not eligible. I then created a new profile and redid the whole process with the same outcomes. Further, I didn't receive a Q number or personal profile number.

How is it possible that the Express Entry outcome is different to the eligibility test? I did all this in one day so it's not like any requirements changed.
Check if you are entering the correct amount of funds. The POF values were updated yesterday.
 

SDGJHB

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CanadaWeCome said:
That is because you must have fell out of 67/100 points on FSW grid, because of either Age, IELTS expiry, etc.
That surely should be the same on the eligibility test and express entry application?
 

CanadaWeCome

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15-12-2015
IELTS Request
27-06-2015
SDGJHB said:
That surely should be the same on the eligibility test and express entry application?
There are some minor differences...I guess it does not ask you how old is your IELTS?
 

SDGJHB

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CanadaWeCome said:
There are some minor differences...I guess it does not ask you how old is your IELTS?
Wrote the IELTS in Feb 2016 and got the results in March 2016. It asks for those dates in the application.
 

CanadaWeCome

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4031/4032
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Pre-Assessed..
Nomination.....
Awaiting
AOR Received.
15-12-2015
IELTS Request
27-06-2015
SDGJHB said:
Wrote the IELTS in Feb 2016 and got the results in March 2016. It asks for those dates in the application.
Do you have any other family member?
 

kryt0n

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SDGJHB said:
Unless I'm doing something completely wrong, I'm still getting to 70 points.
If you use the CRS calculator can you send us a copy paste here of what you have?
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
 

Dill_Harris

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Hi there, this happened to me back in December, after I tried to update my EE profile (not change, just add). This was right after the new scoring system went into place and everybody got the email from CIC to check their profiles. Anyway, my profile became ineligible for no apparent reason, and since I'm a native speaker with several qualifying years of work experience along with 2 Canadian post-grads, I knew it had to be a glitch in the system. After emailing the tech people at CIC, I got a message saying there was nothing they could do after the profile had been classified as ineligible. I just had to start all over again, which I did.

Maybe you can send an email to them, like I did, asking for technical support. I got a reply within a couple days, and while it did force me to go through the hassle of filling out a new profile, at least I had a clear answer. Good luck to you!
 

SDGJHB

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kryt0n said:
If you use the CRS calculator can you send us a copy paste here of what you have?

The CRS is a points-based system that is used to assess and score a candidate’s profile to rank them in the Express Entry pool. It is used to assess skills, work experience, language ability, education and other factors.

1) What is your marital status?
2) i. Is your spouse or common-law partner a citizen or permanent resident of Canada?
2) ii. Will your spouse or common-law partner come with you to Canada?
3) Choose the best answer:
If you’ve been invited to apply, enter your age on the date you were invited.
OR
If you plan to complete an Express Entry profile, enter your current age.

4) Enter the highest level of education for which you:
earned a Canadian degree, diploma or certificate; or
had an Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) if you did your study outside Canada. (ECAs must be from an approved agency, in the last five years)
Note: a Canadian degree, diploma or certificate must either have been earned at an accredited Canadian university, college, trade or technical school, or other institute in Canada. Distance learning counts, but only if it made up less than half your study.


4b) Have you earned a Canadian degree, diploma or certificate?
Note: to answer yes:

English or French as a Second Language must not have made up more than half your study
you must not have studied under an award that required you to return to your home country after graduation to apply your skills and knowledge
you must have studied at a school within Canada (foreign campuses don’t count)
you had to be enrolled full time for at least eight months, and have been physically present in Canada for at least eight months.

5) Official languages: Canada's official languages are English and French.

You need to submit language test results for all programs under Express Entry, even if English or French is your first language.

i. Are your test results less than two years old?
ii. Which language test did you take for your first official language?
Enter your test scores:

Speaking: Listening: Reading: Writing:
iii. Do you have other language results?
If so, which language test did you take for your second official language?

Test results must be less than two years old.


6) Work Experience

i. In the last ten years, how many years of skilled work experience in Canada do you have?
It must have been paid and full-time (or an equal amount in part-time).

Note: In Canada, the National Occupational Classification (NOC) is the official list of all the jobs in the Canadian labour market. It describes each job according to skill type, group and level.

"Skilled work" in the NOC is:

managerial jobs (NOC Skill Level 0),
professional jobs (NOC Skill Type A), or
technical jobs and skilled trades/manual work (NOC Skill Type B).
If you are not sure of the NOC level for this job, you can find your NOC on this site.


ii. In the last 10 years, how many years of skilled work experience do you have?
It must have been paid, full-time (or an equal amount in part-time), and in only one occupation (NOC skill type 0, A or B).


7) Do you have a certificate of qualification from a Canadian province or territory? (Skilled trade occupations)
Note: A certificate of qualification lets people work in some skilled trades in Canada. Only the provinces and territories can issue these certificates. To get one, a person must have them assess their training, trade experience and skills to and then pass a certification exam.

People usually have to go to the province or territory to be assessed. They may also need experience and training from an employer in Canada.

This is not the same as a nomination from a province or territory.


8) Do you have a valid job offer supported by a Labour Market Impact Assessment (if needed)?
A valid job offer must be

full-time
in a skilled job listed as Skill Type 0, or Skill Level A or B in the 2011 National Occupational Classification
supported by a Labour Market Impact Assessment (LMIA) or exempt from needing one
for one year from the time you become a permanent resident.
A job offer is not valid if your employer is:

an embassy, high commission or consulate in Canada or
on the list of ineligible employers.
Whether an offer is valid or not also depends on different factors, depending on your case. See a full list of criteria for valid job offers.


9) Do you have a nomination certificate from a province or territory?
10) What is the highest level of education for which your spouse or common-law partner's has:
earned a Canadian degree, diploma or certificate; or
had an Educational Credential Assessment (ECA)? (ECAs must be from an approved agency, in the last five years)
To get the correct number of points, make sure you choose the answer that best reflects your case. For example:

If you have TWO Bachelor’s degrees, or one Bachelor’s AND a two year college diploma, choose – “Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees. One must be for a program of three or more years.”


11) In the last ten years, how many years of skilled work experience in Canada does your spouse/common-law partner have?
It must have been paid, full-time (or an equal amount in part-time), and in one or more NOC 0, A or B jobs.


12) i) Did your spouse or common-law partner take a language test? If so, which one?
Test results must be less than two years old.


Enter the test scores for:

Speaking: Listening: Reading: Writing: Calculate your score
Your results
All Express Entry candidates get a score out of 1,200, based on the four parts of the Comprehensive Ranking System formula.
We invite the highest-ranking candidates from the pool to apply as a permanent resident through regular “rounds of invitations.” See what minimum scores have been in the past.
Core/Human capital factors

Age = 5
Level of education = 126
Study in Canada = undefined
Official Languages = 122
First Official Language = 122
Second Official Language = 0
Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 253

Spouse factors

Level of education = 2
First Official Languages = 20
Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 22

Skill transferability factors

Education

A) Official Language proficiency and education = 50
B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 50

Foreign work experience

A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 50
B) Canadian and foreign work experience B) = 0
Subtotal = 50

Certificate of qualification = 0

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 100

Comprehensive Ranking System formula

Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 375

Additional points = 0

Grand total = 375
 

awaisf430

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My brother is facing the exact same problem. On the calculator it shows that he is eligible but after filling out the EE profile it shows that he is not.

I have tried several times as well but it doesnt seem to work. I might have to do with your NOC code.