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Inadmissible or just paranoid?

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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Hi I have recently got acquainted with the in admissibility criteria and it made me a little bit paranoid.

I will be brief, here are the facts:

Came to Canada in 2011 for English course + Internship in customer service. Got a completely open work permit at the airport without any restrictions. Completed my English course and worked 2 jobs etc.

Prior to the expiration of the above mentioned work permit applied for another 6 months of the same program, got another study and work.permit. This time work permit had my school's name where it says employer. Underneath it said not authorized to work for anybody else other than stated. I though I was screwed but there was a remark on the bottom that read "may undertake employment if it forms an integral part of studies. My academic advisor said as long as you work in customer service you are OK cuz that is what your program is about. He also mentioned that if the need arises they would provide me with the letter saying that I took urse that was customer service and my jobs were a part of studies. I was stupid and believed hi
And worked 2 jobs again.

Me and my gf got married in Toronto I went to college she got her spousal work permit. I will be finishing college soon and I already have my open off campus wp. All is well. Hopefully I will apply under cec once I graduate and 12 months of NOC experience.

Here is my question: can I be found inadmissible for what I have done with my second WP? Was I stupid to believe my academic advisor and undertake employment somewhere else? When I applied for my off campus wp didnt they check me and my background?

Please don't judge me I was following my academic advisor's advice and knew little to nothing about immigration then. My wife says I am stupid and paranoid if I think.k they would check all the details but I am scared as he'll.
 

whymeee

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CIC don't count any experience gained while studying full time so apart from that I think you should be fine. Any other members want to chime in?
 

kaytea

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Jan 21, 2012
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The only job experience that immigration counts is the job(s) you do after graduation (full-time or equivalent part-time).
So you're inadmissible (only at the moment) and paranoid :p
 

whymeee

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kaytea said:
The only job experience that immigration counts is the job(s) you do after graduation (full-time or equivalent part-time).
So you're inadmissible (only at the moment) and paranoid :p
You'll give him a heart attack by using "inadmissible" in a sentence :p Better say currently ineligible
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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I am so sorry for so many mistakes. I was typing that message from my phone.

I am afraid you didn't fully understand what I was asking. I do know that it has to be NOC 0, A, B 12 months experience once I get my post graduate work permit. There is no issue with that. My question was more like "When I apply(in 1-1.5 years) can they look back and say, oh you violated your WP that was issued to you in 2012, you are inadmissible? My question is more about inadmissibility than all the requirements. I believe I have studied CEC requirements enough to understand how it works. My concern however is my past in Canada and that little mistake(or was it even a mistake) I made when I was an Intern?
 

kaytea

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Jan 21, 2012
192
24
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2172
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-03-2013
AOR Received.
14-05-2013
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
10-12-2013
Med's Done....
17-12-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
13-01-2014
LANDED..........
19-01-2014
What did you study?
I don't think CEC looks anything like that. As long as you worked in Canada legally.
If your permit says that you can work anywhere as long as it's within your field of study, then I think you're okay.
Were the two jobs you did internships?
 

whymeee

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Your original post was perfectly clear. I'm not an immigration lawyer so it's just my own opinion, but you should be fine. Again, lets see what others have to say.
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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They were both in Customer Service. Our program was English for Workplace and we were supposed to find employment by ourselves.

this is what scares the hell out of my

(4) Examples of failure to comply with IRPA include:

temporary residents who do not respect the conditions of their stay—for example, they stay longer than allowed, or work or study without the proper permits
permanent residents who have not lived in Canada for the required amount of time and
people who have previously been deported and try to enter Canada without written authorization.


I started this whole topic to find out if I didn't respect the conditions of my stay by working somewhere else when my WP said my school's name in the Employer field.
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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kaytea said:
What did you study?
I don't think CEC looks anything like that. As long as you worked in Canada legally.
If your permit says that you can work anywhere as long as it's within your field of study, then I think you're okay.
Were the two jobs you did internships?
Technically yes, however my employers hired me like a regular employee. I offered them my WP but they only said they needed my SIN number.

Technically I was working legally, yes, I do realize I am being extremely paranoid, I just hate when there are issues like this when VO can be like, yes it was in his field so it is OK, or his employer was supposed to be his school so NO, NO and NO again... I wish I was smarter then and called CIC to make sure...
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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So is there a chance they will go back to check all the permits and conditions I have ever had in Canada or do they just focus on the CEC application and permits ppl hold at the moment of applying?
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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Apparently you didn't read my post properly. Never in my life have I worked illegally. I had work permit, just read the question carefully before posting useless info like that.
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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orange_girl said:
You are very lucky that IRS didn't find out you were working without a work permit. Usually people caught working illegally face deportation. Just recently there was a story about two international students from Africa who went to work in Walmart without Work Permits. They were arrested on the spot, I have no idea what's happened to them after. In your case, I think IRS might be confused because you had a work permit previously and sometimes people keep working on implied status when they apply for a new work permit. Right now you have no choice but hope CIC will not find out about you working illegally. Good luck with that!
My question was more like "did I violate the requirements of my WP or not, and if I did how bad is it?
Idk what you read in my post that made you think I had no wp
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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orange_girl said:
You might have violated the law but maybe you didn't. You had a work permit and study permit at the same time when you arrived in Canada and then you renewed your studies, so why was your new work permit different from your initial work permit?
I guess that was the officer who just decided to restrict it, idk. I don't really wanna call CIC and ask them cuz then they will ask me my personal info and if I did violate the requirements I will get flagged.

On the other hand when I applied for my study permit for college and then off campus wp would they not have rejected me if I had violated the previous wp?
I was also wondering if there is any way way I could remedy that situation if I am at fault after all. I still hope I am not but you never know. Does it mean that a little detail like that can cost me my future PR?
 

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Jekad2 said:
Hi I have recently got acquainted with the in admissibility criteria and it made me a little bit paranoid.

I will be brief, here are the facts:

Came to Canada in 2011 for English course + Internship in customer service. Got a completely open work permit at the airport without any restrictions. Completed my English course and worked 2 jobs etc.

Prior to the expiration of the above mentioned work permit applied for another 6 months of the same program, got another study and work.permit. This time work permit had my school's name where it says employer. Underneath it said not authorized to work for anybody else other than stated. I though I was screwed but there was a remark on the bottom that read "may undertake employment if it forms an integral part of studies. My academic advisor said as long as you work in customer service you are OK cuz that is what your program is about. He also mentioned that if the need arises they would provide me with the letter saying that I took urse that was customer service and my jobs were a part of studies. I was stupid and believed hi
And worked 2 jobs again.

Me and my gf got married in Toronto I went to college she got her spousal work permit. I will be finishing college soon and I already have my open off campus wp. All is well. Hopefully I will apply under cec once I graduate and 12 months of NOC experience.

Here is my question: can I be found inadmissible for what I have done with my second WP? Was I stupid to believe my academic advisor and undertake employment somewhere else? When I applied for my off campus wp didnt they check me and my background?

Please don't judge me I was following my academic advisor's advice and knew little to nothing about immigration then. My wife says I am stupid and paranoid if I think.k they would check all the details but I am scared as he'll.
Hey Jekad,

Hope you are doing well. I was trying to understand your situation. May i ask on what visa you came to Canada?

Study Permit? or Visitor Visa?
And what was the duration of your studies?
What was the requirements to pass the English course? Was a work experience where you you can practice English - a requirement to pass the course?
 

Jekad2

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Jun 19, 2012
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InfoSeeker12 said:
Hey Jekad,

Hope you are doing well. I was trying to understand your situation. May i ask on what visa you came to Canada?

Study Permit? or Visitor Visa?
And what was the duration of your studies?
What was the requirements to pass the English course? Was a work experience where you you can practice English - a requirement to pass the course?
Visa SW-1
Had study and work permit.

Program was called EWP. There was no pass/fail it was just an opportunity to study English and work in customer service.

I renewed once like I said and even though my wp was supposed to be open it had my language school's name where it says employer. After that I went to Seneca college in Toronto. Got my study permit and my wide her WP since she is my spouse. 6 months later I got my off campus wp and I started thinking of PR. And then I saw this in admissibility section.