In-Canada application refused - Going to try AGAIN with outland!

[sweb87]

Intro
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May.26.2013

Hello everyone,

I filed a PR application for my spouse (Citizen of U.S.A.) VIA the IN-Canada route during 2010.

2 years later she left the country to see her family in the U.S.A. because of a variety of reasons surrounding a tragedy in our family.

The immigration office requested an interview and correspondence which we were not able to complete due to her being out of the country and so the application was refused after 31 months of waiting.

she has now been out of the country for about 11 months of which I spent 6 with her trying to establish an income for her so that I could immigrate to the U.S.A.

Due to the length of my stay I found that I am unable to return to the U.S., even to visit, until at least 6 more months.

We now are considering re-starting a Canada immigration application so that we can be together.

I have steady work up here and the situation down south is far too complicated with our children and their special schooling requirements for my wife to establish an income for her to sponsor me and if someone WERE to joint-sponsor me, we would be separated for at LEAST 6 months.

Would an in-Canada application for my wife be viable so soon after being refused?

What the heck should I do to be with my family!? :-\


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UPDATE 1

May.27.2013

We started getting our paperwork together but we have to wait 16-18 weeks for my wife's FBI clearance paper to arrive before we can even apply.

I am debating weather or not to get the medicals up front, or wait for the request.

We are going to acquire study permits when they come to visit in the next couple months. The children are U.S. citizens so we will need the student visas (as we did before during the IN-land).

some questions :

* We will get the Study Visa's at the border when they come to visit and from what I remember from our last experience, it is not possible to get study visa's other than at the port of entry (please correct me if i'm wrong).

* In the application it gives a space to request a specific Immigration Office, which one should i choose? I would choose buffalo, but they are closing it down soon and I hear they are just transferring all new files that are sent there.

* When my wife comes to visit with my vehicle, which is registered in Canada but I imported, but not registered, to the U.S.A. will she have any problems? If she brings some of my stuff, will she have problems with that also?

 

[Mrs Selim]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

my husband is from egypt and he got rejected today because of our age diff and religion the are very racist in Cairo ambasy..
We will appeal but it will take a while before we get other interview...Dont give up and keep trying cause you need your wife with you ..

 

[CanadianJeepGuy]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

my husband is from egypt and he got rejected today because of our age diff and religion the are very racist in Cairo ambasy..
We will appeal but it will take a while before we get other interview...Dont give up and keep trying cause you need your wife with you ..

What is your age difference?

 

[scylla]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

Hello everyone,

I filed a PR application for my spouse (Citizen of U.S.A.) VIA the IN-Canada route during 2010.

2 years later she left the country to see her family in the U.S.A. because of a variety of reasons surrounding a tragedy in our family.

The immigration office requested an interview and correspondence which we were not able to complete due to her being out of the country and so the application was refused after 31 months of waiting.

she has now been out of the country for about 11 months of which I spent 6 with her trying to establish an income for her so that I could immigrate to the U.S.A.

Due to the length of my stay I found that I am unable to return to the U.S., even to visit, until at least 6 more months.

We now are considering re-starting a Canada immigration application so that we can be together.

I have steady work up here and the situation down south is far too complicated with our children and their special schooling requirements for my wife to establish an income for her to sponsor me and if someone WERE to joint-sponsor me, we would be separated for at LEAST 6 months.

Would an in-Canada application for my wife be viable so soon after being refused?

What the heck should I do to be with my family!? :-\

Well - appealing is out since there are no appeals for inland application.

I would apply outland this time. Your wife can be in Canada while an outland application is being processed. And if she has to leave Canada again for any reason, this won't jeopardize the application.

 

[sweb87]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

Well - appealing is out since there are no appeals for inland application.

I would apply outland this time. Your wife can be in Canada while an outland application is being processed. And if she has to leave Canada again for any reason, this won't jeopardize the application.

My only issue with the Outland application would be the stability of the environment for our kids and their schooling. After this next big change I don't want to be uprooting them anymore.

Would it be possible to acquire study visas for the kids while they were up here in Canada?

 

[sweb87]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

my husband is from egypt and he got rejected today because of our age diff and religion the are very racist in Cairo ambasy..
We will appeal but it will take a while before we get other interview...Dont give up and keep trying cause you need your wife with you ..

I hope you find success in your Journey to being together with your husband!!

I have been fighting for 5 years to be with the love of my life and I am still fighting!

Love conquers all

 

[Mrs Selim]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

All it does is make all of us stronger ...

 

[Sweden]

Re: In-Canada application refused - should we try again?

My only issue with the Outland application would be the stability of the environment for our kids and their schooling. After this next big change I don't want to be uprooting them anymore.

Would it be possible to acquire study visas for the kids while they were up here in Canada?

if you're a Canadian citizen, then your kids are Canadian ( or if they are born in Canada). If they are from the US, you can always try and negotiate with a school in Canada to let them study, but it's more on a case by case basis. So go and visit the nearest school, explain ( if your kids are not Canadian, then they also need to be included for sponsorship) that you have applied for PR and are they willing to let them study etc - quite a few schools will say no, but some will say yes, so it's worth a try.

You could apply outland, and your wife would be allowed to stay ( technically she would "visit" but it would be long term) in Canada - not able to work, but at least she could be here.

Your application has been refused because she was not in Canada, not because your relationship was not deemed genuine, so I don't see an issue with applying soon - but this time I also think that outland is a better option.

Good luck,
Sweden

 

[sweb87]

We are going to apply using the OUT-land application this time.

We started getting our paperwork together but we have to wait 16-18 weeks for my wife's FBI clearance paper to arrive before we can even apply.

I am debating weather or not to get the medicals up front, or wait for the request.

We are going to acquire study permits when they come to visit in the next couple months. The children are U.S. citizens so we will need the student visas (as we did before during the IN-land).

We will get the Study Visa's at the border when they come to visit and from what I remember from our last experience, it is not possible to get study visa's other than at the port of entry (please correct me if i'm wrong).

In the application it gives a space to request a specific Immigration Office, which one should i choose? I would choose buffalo, but they are closing it down soon and I hear they are just transferring all new files that are sent there.

When my wife comes to visit with my vehicle, which is registered in Canada but I imported, but not registered, to the U.S.A. will she have any problems? If she brings some of my stuff, will she have problems with that also?


I am super excited after looking through everyone's OUT-land success stories and I am praying that my case goes fast!

 

[papirico]

Hello everyone,

I filed a PR application for my spouse (Citizen of U.S.A.) VIA the IN-Canada route during 2010.

2 years later she left the country to see her family in the U.S.A. because of a variety of reasons surrounding a tragedy in our family.

The immigration office requested an interview and correspondence which we were not able to complete due to her being out of the country and so the application was refused after 31 months of waiting.

she has now been out of the country for about 11 months of which I spent 6 with her trying to establish an income for her so that I could immigrate to the U.S.A.

Due to the length of my stay I found that I am unable to return to the U.S., even to visit, until at least 6 more months.

We now are considering re-starting a Canada immigration application so that we can be together.

I have steady work up here and the situation down south is far too complicated with our children and their special schooling requirements for my wife to establish an income for her to sponsor me and if someone WERE to joint-sponsor me, we would be separated for at LEAST 6 months.

Would an in-Canada application for my wife be viable so soon after being refused?

What the heck should I do to be with my family!? :-\

Yes, it's been done before.
I know of an applicant who got refused inland, tried again 4 months later outland and got approved.

 

[sweb87]

I just updated my first post and have a few questions.

Could someone please help me out?

 

[Sweden]

We are going to apply using the OUT-land application this time.

We started getting our paperwork together but we have to wait 16-18 weeks for my wife's FBI clearance paper to arrive before we can even apply.

I am debating weather or not to get the medicals up front, or wait for the request.

We are going to acquire study permits when they come to visit in the next couple months. The children are U.S. citizens so we will need the student visas (as we did before during the IN-land).

We will get the Study Visa's at the border when they come to visit and from what I remember from our last experience, it is not possible to get study visa's other than at the port of entry (please correct me if i'm wrong).

In the application it gives a space to request a specific Immigration Office, which one should i choose? I would choose buffalo, but they are closing it down soon and I hear they are just transferring all new files that are sent there.

When my wife comes to visit with my vehicle, which is registered in Canada but I imported, but not registered, to the U.S.A. will she have any problems? If she brings some of my stuff, will she have problems with that also?


I am super excited after looking through everyone's OUT-land success stories and I am praying that my case goes fast!

Can't answer all, but there are a few US/Can applicants that are really helpful on car importation etc, so you will get more info.
Do the medical up-front, it's a requirement, and if you don't do it, your application might be returned, or delayed. So just do it. But wait until you get the FBI back, and do the medicals just before sending the application because they are valid only for 1 year.

For the VO, choose Ottawa. Buffalo has been closed for 1 year, and Ottawa is the reference VO for US outland applications (yes, I know, it doesn't make much sense, but just choose Ottawa).

about bringing stuff: if it's a few suitcases, it's probably OK, but don't make it look like she is moving to Canada - she might be turned down at the border. If you're Canadian, then you can get things into Canada as a returning canadian - check on CBSA website to see the allowances.

Good luck, hope it works out well this time!
Sweden

 

[sweb87]

Can't answer all, but there are a few US/Can applicants that are really helpful on car importation etc, so you will get more info.
Do the medical up-front, it's a requirement, and if you don't do it, your application might be returned, or delayed. So just do it. But wait until you get the FBI back, and do the medicals just before sending the application because they are valid only for 1 year.

For the VO, choose Ottawa. Buffalo has been closed for 1 year, and Ottawa is the reference VO for US outland applications (yes, I know, it doesn't make much sense, but just choose Ottawa).

about bringing stuff: if it's a few suitcases, it's probably OK, but don't make it look like she is moving to Canada - she might be turned down at the border. If you're Canadian, then you can get things into Canada as a returning canadian - check on CBSA website to see the allowances.

Good luck, hope it works out well this time!
Sweden

Thank you Sweden for all the help so far =)

 

[sweb87]

UPDATE :

Today my wife sent for her FBI fingerprint cards to be processed so now we must wait 16-18 weeks for the results.

 

[chala]

UPDATE :

Today my wife sent for her FBI fingerprint cards to be processed so now we must wait 16-18 weeks for the results.

It shouldn't take that long. We had to wait about 8 weeks. Also an upfront medical is now a requirement. Good luck with your application.