IMPORTANT - need to send ALL documents to the CIO now (not visa office)
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It depends on the country of your PCC and your visa office. The instructions for PCCs are at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp and visa specific instructions are at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled-mission.asp.Blaze said:
In most cases, per the new instruction manual, you will need to send the original PCCs to the CIO plus translation by an accredited translator if it's not in English or French (per http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG73.asp, "All applicants must submit police certificates/clearances to the CIO as part of the application process.") There are exceptions because in some countries, for example, you cannot ask for a PCC yourself without a formal request from the Canadian Embassy in that country.
visaexpert said:
It can be difficult to invest the funds, but they ask for the funds to show stability and that you have enough money to support yourself when you immigrate and in many cases ask for at least 6 months of statements so it's good to prepare them anyway.
The Backgrounder anticipates that overall processing time should be a bit shorter ("Eliminating the simplified application shaves 120 days off the total processing time, because this is the time we allowed applicants to send in their supporting documents." - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2010/2010-06-26c.asp). We won't know what the actual total processing time or processing time in a specific visa office will be until they start using the new process.
Re: Final Check list for CIO
I've noticed that at least a couple of the Visa Office Checklists have not been updated since June 26...rely said:
Guys,
I need PCC from the UK and the US. PCC from the US itseld might take upto 12 weeks. I am planning to apply in 1122 category like another gazillion people, wondering whether the 1000 will get filled in 3 months.
A lawyer told me that I can submit the PCC after submitting the application, or submit with a proof that I have sent a request for PCC.
Any thoughts?
I need PCC from the UK and the US. PCC from the US itseld might take upto 12 weeks. I am planning to apply in 1122 category like another gazillion people, wondering whether the 1000 will get filled in 3 months.
A lawyer told me that I can submit the PCC after submitting the application, or submit with a proof that I have sent a request for PCC.
Any thoughts?
tryinghard said:
Given that you now need to submit all documents to the CIO, I'd expect applications to slow down a little bit in the immediate future. However, I agree that the cap is likely to be reached very quickly for some NOC codes. Therefore, if I were applying now, and I had all the other documents ready, I would submit everything else + the proof that you requested the PCC(s) (including shipping info and a copy of the letter to the FBI) and include a note on the checklist and cover letter explaining that you will forward the PCC as soon as you get it. Worst case, they say your application is not complete and send it back and you'll have to reapply. But if not, you'll at least have secured a spot in line. It may work, since you could do this before with visa offices given that they use the other documents first to ensure you meet the 67 points and are eligible for FSW. Ultimately, you have to decide what risk you are more comfortable with. I wish you the best of luck either way!
I've taken another look at some of the CIC websites and
Given that there still seems to be significant confusion and lots of questions in the forum, thought it was worth sharing. [NOTE - if you haven't seen my original post on this thread. please take a look at http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/important-need-to-send-all-documents-to-the-cio-now-not-visa-office-t45808.0.html;msg331057#msg331057]
Instructions on "applying as a skilled worker"
(at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp)
"3. Supporting documents
The additional documents requested in Appendix A of the Visa Office specific forms, are required when you submit your application to the CIO.
Instructions on how to apply
(at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-how.asp)
"4. Check your application
Make sure that:
* your application and all forms are completed and signed
* your processing fee is included, and
* all required supporting documents are included.
If not, your application will be returned to you and you will have to complete and resubmit it. Use the document checklist included in the application package (Appendix A) to make sure your have not forgotten anything.
5. Submit your application
Mail your application and your fee to the Centralized Intake Office for Federal Skilled Worker Applications in Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada). For more detailed information, including courier and mailing addresses, consult the federal skilled worker application package.
Do not submit your federal skilled worker application to the visa office responsible for your country of nationality or residence."
(bolding mine)
Thus, as web sites are updated (the above were quoted based on updated date of 2010-06-28), the changes consistently seem to be confirming that ALL documents requested in the Visa Office Checklists should be submitted to the CIO with the initial application.
* * * there is now additional confirmation that ALL documents in the specific visa office checklist (Appendix A) must be sent to the CIO * * *.
Given that there still seems to be significant confusion and lots of questions in the forum, thought it was worth sharing. [NOTE - if you haven't seen my original post on this thread. please take a look at http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/important-need-to-send-all-documents-to-the-cio-now-not-visa-office-t45808.0.html;msg331057#msg331057]
* * *
Instructions on "applying as a skilled worker"
(at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp)
"3. Supporting documents
The additional documents requested in Appendix A of the Visa Office specific forms, are required when you submit your application to the CIO.
* * *
Instructions on how to apply
(at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-how.asp)
"4. Check your application
Make sure that:
* your application and all forms are completed and signed
* your processing fee is included, and
* all required supporting documents are included.
If not, your application will be returned to you and you will have to complete and resubmit it. Use the document checklist included in the application package (Appendix A) to make sure your have not forgotten anything.
5. Submit your application
Mail your application and your fee to the Centralized Intake Office for Federal Skilled Worker Applications in Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada). For more detailed information, including courier and mailing addresses, consult the federal skilled worker application package.
Do not submit your federal skilled worker application to the visa office responsible for your country of nationality or residence."
(bolding mine)
Thus, as web sites are updated (the above were quoted based on updated date of 2010-06-28), the changes consistently seem to be confirming that ALL documents requested in the Visa Office Checklists should be submitted to the CIO with the initial application.
Just wanted to add that the Operational Bulletin issues in response to the Ministerial Instructions indicates:OhCanadiana said:
"The CIO will review applications for completeness pursuant to section 10 of the IRPR. If the application received is incomplete, the entire application package will be returned to the applicant.
Final eligibility determination at the CIO
The CIO will assess the applicant’s submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility. To be eligible for processing, the applicant must meet all the criteria described in the MIs. If the application is eligible for processing, the applicant will be informed and the entire application will be forwarded to the visa office requested."
from http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob218.asp
Hello everyone here!
First of all, OhCanadiana's comments are exactly right and complete. Thank you!
Secondly, let me share something with new applicants. I have a schoolmate who consulted me on 06/25 about his immigrantion plan and application. Both of our occupations are under NOC1111, and he has been the States for 16 years. He has planned to submit the "simple" application forms to Sydney on 06/27. But 06/26 when the new rule was being posted, he has to postpone his application by at least three months. All new applicants, when you read this post, please ask yourself if you have
1) registered for the lastest IELTS Module G,
2) contacted the local police station to get the certificate,
3) contacted your back to get the required fund certificate,
4) had work experience that can be adjusted to close to the new required NOC,
5) had notorized documenation, such as birth certificate, degree (non-US or non-Canada), transcript (non-US or non-Canada), etc.
6) had a copy of the passport, I-20 (US students), I-94(US residents).
For the rest part, OhCanadiana has offered the link at CIC. Should you have had a full package already, please submit to Sydney without any delay. The 20,000-cap is like the situation of applying for US H1-B visa, it will be filled very soon, maybe several weeks, days, or just a couple of hours.
First of all, OhCanadiana's comments are exactly right and complete. Thank you!
Secondly, let me share something with new applicants. I have a schoolmate who consulted me on 06/25 about his immigrantion plan and application. Both of our occupations are under NOC1111, and he has been the States for 16 years. He has planned to submit the "simple" application forms to Sydney on 06/27. But 06/26 when the new rule was being posted, he has to postpone his application by at least three months. All new applicants, when you read this post, please ask yourself if you have
1) registered for the lastest IELTS Module G,
2) contacted the local police station to get the certificate,
3) contacted your back to get the required fund certificate,
4) had work experience that can be adjusted to close to the new required NOC,
5) had notorized documenation, such as birth certificate, degree (non-US or non-Canada), transcript (non-US or non-Canada), etc.
6) had a copy of the passport, I-20 (US students), I-94(US residents).
For the rest part, OhCanadiana has offered the link at CIC. Should you have had a full package already, please submit to Sydney without any delay. The 20,000-cap is like the situation of applying for US H1-B visa, it will be filled very soon, maybe several weeks, days, or just a couple of hours.
Dr.Hasib
VIP Member
- Jul 1, 2010
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The CIO will take care of sending the documents to the visa office if you are applying after June 26, 2010 once they review your application and determine it is eligible for processing.Dr.Hasib said:
(If, on the other hand, the CIO received your application before June 26, 2010 then you still need to submit the documents to the visa office during the 120 day period after you receive your first AOR)
I do not think need to send all the document with Initial Application
Please check Point 12 on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5612E.PDF
they clearly mention in form IMM5612E
This document checklist (use it as the cover page)
Submit only the documents requested on this checklist.
Please check Point 12 on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5612E.PDF
they clearly mention in form IMM5612E
This document checklist (use it as the cover page)
Submit only the documents requested on this checklist.
HI Guys ,
I am a new member here. It seems to be a very friendly and informative group.
I want to apply in the new rule. I am bit confused with two thing:
1. my national ID card has some information written in English , some in my first language . Is it necessary to translate it in English ?
other thing is that there is a mistake in my spouse'e father name in her national id ? I am afriad if we want to go for correction, it will take time ? Is any suggestion from u people what should I do under these circumstances?
2. I want to pay via credit card . they do not accept online payment . so how I can do that ? Should it be enough if I fill up the payment form and give the card details and signature there?
I am a new member here. It seems to be a very friendly and informative group.
I want to apply in the new rule. I am bit confused with two thing:
1. my national ID card has some information written in English , some in my first language . Is it necessary to translate it in English ?
other thing is that there is a mistake in my spouse'e father name in her national id ? I am afriad if we want to go for correction, it will take time ? Is any suggestion from u people what should I do under these circumstances?
2. I want to pay via credit card . they do not accept online payment . so how I can do that ? Should it be enough if I fill up the payment form and give the card details and signature there?