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Immigration minister discusses policies at Waterloo roundtable

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Visit was part of cross-Canada tour to discuss future of immigration in this country

http://www.waterloochronicle.ca/news-story/6767783-immigration-minister-discusses-policies-at-waterloo-roundtable/

By James Jackson

The federal government’s roundtable discussion on the future of Canada’s immigration policies came to the University of Waterloo Thursday (July 14, 2016) to chat with local immigration advocates and groups about ways to improve the process.

Long processing times was one of the main concerns heard by Immigration Minister John McCallum and local MPs, but others worry about the quality of the government website and have a desire for even more immigrants than Canada currently allows each year.

“I think people are concerned about the processing time, the wait times, the website quality, all of these things which we are working to improve,” said McCallum to reporters following the closed-door roundtable discussion.

“Perhaps my single biggest concern is it takes somewhere on the order of two years for a husband and wife to be reunited. That is unacceptably high and we’re working to bring that down.”

“There’s a desire by some for lower skilled, there’s a desire from others for higher skilled, but the general view is we do need more.” Immigration Minister John McCallum, on the desire for more immigrants than the approximately 250,000 Canada permits each year.
McCallum has already conducted similar discussions in Atlantic Canada and was in Mississauga and Brampton earlier this week.

Thursday’s roundtable included representatives from local post-secondary institutes, the University of Guelph, the local YWCA, local school boards and the Muslim Society of Guelph, among others.

The meetings are part of the federal government’s month-long input period that started July 5 and runs to August 5.

The government is asking Canadians for their input to the future of immigration in this country, including:

• How many immigrants should Canada allow in 2017 and beyond?

• Does Canada have the right balance of immigrants?

• How can immigration play a role in supporting economic growth and innovation?

• What modernization techniques should Canada use for processing applications?

For the past decade or so, immigration rates to Canada have hovered around 250,000 per year, but McCallum said he’s looking to bring in more.

“There’s a desire by some for lower skilled, there’s a desire from others for higher skilled, but the general view is we do need more,” he said.

“I am probably the only immigration minister in the world whose major challenge is I can’t bring in refugees fast enough to satisfy the demands of generous Canadians who want to support them.”

Sara Sayyed of the Muslim Society of Guelph was part of the discussion and said it’s time for a review of immigration policies.

“Definitely it’s overdue, and it’s great the ministers are coming down to the communities to get a response and information from us,” she said. “We’ve never been asked ‘what do you need?’ and it’s great to be involved that closely.”

Waterloo MP Bardish Chagger, the minister of small business and tourism, said the consultation is important to “provide us with the feedback we need to make good decisions as the Government of Canada for how the system works for all Canadians.”

McCallum also said he wants to make it easier for international students and tenure-track professors to immigrate to Canada, and tackle what he called “stupid” rules in his department.

“One of the stupidest rules is that they don’t accept tenure-track professors under express entry because it’s not a permanent job, the person might not get tenure, but that is a stupid rule,” he said.

For more information or to provide input on the process, visit the Citizenship and Immigration Canada website, www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/consultations/nationaldiscussion.asp.
 
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Even i'm following day to day updates on express entry and

i'm hoping awarding more points to international student in express entry will happen in the fall.

youtube.com/watch?v=QOiWXgLy5zw (Don't miss 7:30 and also 12:10 )
 

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Even i'm following day to day updates on express entry and

i'm hoping awarding more points to international student in express entry will happen in the fall.

youtube.com/watch?v=QOiWXgLy5zw (Don't miss 7:30 and also 12:10 )
+1 There are good news and bad news for the current situation. Good news is that IRCC will definitely award more points for int'l students. Bad news is the current national conversation about immigration, why do they even need to asking what public wants about immigration without sending out any data to educate the public?

Giving the public the power to decide what they want is a slippery slope, and usually not end well, just look at the Brexit. David Cameron wanted to save his face and initiated the referendum without any preparations at all, and guess what? he lost everything.

With the current housing market in Vancouver, Toronto and the bad economies in Alberta and the Atlantics, most white Canadians are having a negative view about immigration, since they all think new immigrants equal wealthy investors from China or job stealers or welfare parasites. Without any data, how the hell the public knows how many immigrants Canada needs? how many and which jobs they need to fill?

I bet the Liberals already have immigration plans for the next few years, but they just want to put on a show with the public and this might end every badly for them and for us.
 

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lokeshreddy135 said:
Even i'm following day to day updates on express entry and

i'm hoping awarding more points to international student in express entry will happen in the fall.

youtube.com/watch?v=QOiWXgLy5zw (Don't miss 7:30 and also 12:10 )
Bro, thank you so much for sharing this video, i have seen this atleast 5 times now and cannot wait for fall to see what will be implemented for all of us. It's been our 49th day that we left Canada and everyday we count to get back so that we can start our life once again !
 

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I really hope that they are going to change those rules as it benefits the country! Otherwise, a lot of international students will have to go back to their home country. The way CEC is on paper, it accounts for the skilled experience gained in last 3 years! Generally speaking, in most cases, a lot of students would start working on a full time job after atleast a month or two while they are on their PGWP. This leaves them with 2 years of exp in Canada in their last 3 years and have to find a full time job immediately as soon as they go back to their home country in order to claim 2 years of CEC and one year of foreign exp to gain more points in EE. Not only loosing the Job, if things don't go well as planned and if the crs keeps on remaining high,it is extremely challenging. At the same time, if CLB 9 in IELTS or Pnp's are not achieved, it makes the journey to achieve PR more difficult. Hopefully, they change the rules for international students and create a win-win situation as the govt can still get the taxes and attract more international students!
 

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Alexios07 said:
+1 There are good news and bad news for the current situation. Good news is that IRCC will definitely award more points for int'l students. Bad news is the current national conversation about immigration, why do they even need to asking what public wants about immigration without sending out any data to educate the public?

Giving the public the power to decide what they want is a slippery slope, and usually not end well, just look at the Brexit. David Cameron wanted to save his face and initiated the referendum without any preparations at all, and guess what? he lost everything.

With the current housing market in Vancouver, Toronto and the bad economies in Alberta and the Atlantics, most white Canadians are having a negative view about immigration, since they all think new immigrants equal wealthy investors from China or job stealers or welfare parasites. Without any data, how the hell the public knows how many immigrants Canada needs? how many and which jobs they need to fill?

I bet the Liberals already have immigration plans for the next few years, but they just want to put on a show with the public and this might end every badly for them and for us.
I agree, and well said! I'm from the UK - trying to stay in Canada rather than go back to the Brexit mess. We were not very well informed by party leaders doing the public show (like you said), and yes immigration was a big topic and not very well explained to the general public. There are plenty in our UK population that know nothing about politics/economics, and so don't understand of what our choices re immigration even mean - we should have been told more clearly. Our votes mainly came down to personal opinion, dubious facts, scaremongering and doomsday predictions.

I think the "most white Canadians" is generalising a bit though - I mean are you just assuming, or do you know first-hand, that the First Nations and Inuits etc. welcome immigration? They also have their own livelihoods to consider, and think about whether immigration is good or bad for their job prospects. Also, a lot of immigrants are also white from Northern Europe or USA, Australasia etc. so it's not really a white Canadians v's non-white immigrants thing
 

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I think the "most white Canadians" is generalising a bit though - I mean are you just assuming, or do you know first-hand, that the First Nations and Inuits etc. welcome immigration? They also have their own livelihoods to consider, and think about whether immigration is good or bad for their job prospects. Also, a lot of immigrants are also white from Northern Europe or USA, Australasia etc. so it's not really a white Canadians v's non-white immigrants thing
The reason why I said "white Canadians" because that's what I perceive from reading the comment sections of many articles from Globe&Mail, VancouverSun, CBC etc. and their facebook pages, or even Reddit. You can see that they all have a very bitter view about immigration, all because of the housing market, the falling of Canadian loonie. Asian-Canadians are obviously in favour of this immigration issue, and I can pretty sure most of them do not even bother to participate in the survey. I also don't think the First Nations and the Inuits bother much with the current housing market, only young working people are getting crazy about it.

Again, with this stupid survey is happening, I'm afraid that we might have a stricter immigration plan next year.
 

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I get what you say. And yes, people need education.

Canadians have no clue about Immigration, and it's understandable as they don't "need" to know. When I tell them how complicated and "nuts" it is, they just awe. Nonetheless, I find a lot of support from them, and also saw A LOT of support last year with the Syrian Refugees.

Can't wait for the IRCC to award more points for international students.

Alexios07 said:
+1 There are good news and bad news for the current situation. Good news is that IRCC will definitely award more points for int'l students. Bad news is the current national conversation about immigration, why do they even need to asking what public wants about immigration without sending out any data to educate the public?

Giving the public the power to decide what they want is a slippery slope, and usually not end well, just look at the Brexit. David Cameron wanted to save his face and initiated the referendum without any preparations at all, and guess what? he lost everything.

With the current housing market in Vancouver, Toronto and the bad economies in Alberta and the Atlantics, most white Canadians are having a negative view about immigration, since they all think new immigrants equal wealthy investors from China or job stealers or welfare parasites. Without any data, how the hell the public knows how many immigrants Canada needs? how many and which jobs they need to fill?

I bet the Liberals already have immigration plans for the next few years, but they just want to put on a show with the public and this might end every badly for them and for us.
 

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Alexios07 said:
The reason why I said "white Canadians" because that's what I perceive from reading the comment sections of many articles from Globe&Mail, VancouverSun, CBC etc. and their facebook pages, or even Reddit. You can see that they all have a very bitter view about immigration, all because of the housing market, the falling of Canadian loonie. Asian-Canadians are obviously in favour of this immigration issue, and I can pretty sure most of them do not even bother to participate in the survey. I also don't think the First Nations and the Inuits bother much with the current housing market, only young working people are getting crazy about it.

Again, with this stupid survey is happening, I'm afraid that we might have a stricter immigration plan next year.
Yes that's true actually, there is a lot of bias on who comments on the media pages (there's probably not even internet in all the houses in the remote parts of Canada), and unfortunately as you say the ones commenting are the one's probably participating in the survey. It doesn't help when they are watching all the chaos in Europe on TV with the 'immigration crises' as it's being called. To be fair, and I know I'm gonna get struck down by lightning for this, it's part of the reason I don't want to go back myself.... there are just too many people and not enough space! Not exactly the same problem here, except Vancouver has a really high population density so clearly we're all immigrating to the same places as the Canadians (i.e. where the work is). So, even though I want to immigrate here, I understand the Canadians 'bitter view' - especially, as another poster has said, not many of them have any idea about the immigration situation and what it's good (or bad) for
 

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I get what you say. And yes, people need education.

Canadians have no clue about Immigration, and it's understandable as they don't "need" to know. When I tell them how complicated and "nuts" it is, they just awe. Nonetheless, I find a lot of support from them, and also saw A LOT of support last year with the Syrian Refugees.

Can't wait for the IRCC to award more points for international students.
Yeah, none of my Canadian friends have any idea either! They think because I'm doing a PhD I should simply be able to stay because I'm at a high level of education so would make a good immigrant - but nope! They are always asking me "so are you going to stay then?....." like I even have a choice ::)