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manivd

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0xFF said:
Yeah, I am from Karachi,
I did my GRE preparation myself, there are some wonderful GRE Books like Cracking GRE 2014 by Princeton Review.
It took me around three weeks to prepare for the GRE.
Is it just one book you did preparation from or more ? because I am planning to give GRE asap.
Where did you buy that book from and how much for ?
Just three weeks ? You serious! You seems to be either genius with good vocabulary. Only then it can be possible within three weeks.
 

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manivd said:
Is it just one book you did preparation from or more ? because I am planning to give GRE asap.
Where did you buy that book from and how much for ?
Just three weeks ? You serious! You seems to be either genius with good vocabulary. Only then it can be possible within three weeks.
I got it from Urdu Bazar (M.A Jinnah Road)..just go there and ask for the book , its everywhere there.
I mostly use this book and i also used the official GRE Guide by ETS (also available in urdu bazar).
I am good with mathematics, I just solved the entire book and match the answers without going through the actual solution provided by the book.
and as far as the english part is concerned, I am a content writer for one of best Technology blog, so that really helped me with the vocabulary.
 

manivd

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Thanks again.
Yes I know Urdu Bazaar its far from my home, hate going to saddar as well. Anyhow will have to go now :(
If you are interested in selling your books if they are in good conditon you can pm me.
Can I bother you in future if I need any assistance with GRE preparation ?
 

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manivd said:
Thanks again.
Yes I know Urdu Bazaar its far from my home, hate going to saddar as well. Anyhow will have to go now :(
If you are interested in selling your books if they are in good conditon you can pm me.
Can I bother you in future if I need any assistance with GRE preparation ?
I have already gave my books away to a friend who is applying for the USA :) :) :) :)
Sure, nudge me whenever you need any help with the GRE.
Its fun to prepare for GRE.
Why are you giving GRE anyway ?
 

manivd

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Oh my bad!
Thanks, I will bug you, if needed.
I want to have a back up option and which will be USA.
Although fees are high there, but chances for scholarship are high in USA.
 

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wow good to see that you guys are into USA.
i also want to immigrate there, but i will just work here in Canada, learn more, get better position, then maybe try to find a job in USA.
 

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I am sorry, but this is not a major reason to not go to the US.
US Institute gives scholarships more than any country in the world does, but you need to be very competitive to land the scholarship.
With very good GRE Score, High GPA and IELTS score you would definitely get the Scholarship.
Do you think you were competitive enough to get a scholarship ?
What was your GPA ? your GRE score ?
it was a major for me. i am talking about myself. i dont have GRE, i am for bachelors. i was admitted to top uni of california, but there state has laws to not to give aid to international students..
 

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it was a major for me. i am talking about myself. i dont have GRE, i am for bachelors. i was admitted to top uni of california, but there state has laws to not to give aid to international students..
sorry but most of US universities give u aid after first sem. US funding situation is far better than canada. And universities without GRE requirement dont seem to be good universities so avoid them. all top schools in US need GRE. There is no such law about funding in California. if ur smart and have good grades u most likely would get aid in US. I have seen very few people in canada get aid for masters but my experience is in US after first sem about 90% students get funding in the form of tuition waivers or partial waivers.
 

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sorry but most of US universities give u aid after first sem. US funding situation is far better than canada. And universities without GRE requirement dont seem to be good universities so avoid them. all top schools in US need GRE. There is no such law about funding in California. if ur smart and have good grades u most likely would get aid in US. I have seen very few people in canada get aid for masters but my experience is in US after first sem about 90% students get funding in the form of tuition waivers or partial waivers.
gre is not required for bachelors. SAT is required for bachelors. . if aid is really given so much to international applicants then just name the uni's which give aid to international students for bachelors degree. (don't include ivies as they have very few admits)
 

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gre is not required for bachelors. SAT is required for bachelors. . if aid is really given so much to international applicants then just name the uni's which give aid to international students for bachelors degree. (don't include ivies as they have very few admits)
well if ur going for bachelors then no u wont get aid in US I was talking about masters. and yes SAT's r required for bachelors and not GRE as GRE is graduate record examination. And canada also does not give aid for bachelors no difference there. I feel and its just my opinion but talent goes to US and rest go every where else with few exceptions. I know people will be offended by this but its just my opinion that canada gives any tom dick and harry a visa. everyone in canada makes money collages who give admission on any grades to the CIC and the banks who give out loans. only person at a loss is the student who does not get a job and has to work part time to make ends meet.
 

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Quick note -- if you're taking the GRE, then you're talking about grad school. For non-professional programs (i.e. non-engineering, non-medical, non-business), any decent school will give you complete funding: tuition waiver and a TA-ship. That's not aid, it's what comes from being in a good program. If you're being asked to pay the cost of grad school, that's a sign that your program is poor and you should avoid it. Sometimes the scholarships are contingent, but they exist.

Professional programs are different, I doubt what I wrote applies to them.

As for the original question, the reason many people study in Canada is that they like Canada and want to live here. It's a weird idea, that countries get ranked, and that anyone who goes to, say, Belgium, must be waiting for an opportunity to move to Germany. Does everyone from Karachi want to live in Lahore (or vice versa)? I'm an American who studied in Canada, here's why:

- I grew up in a crummy state -- once I leave the state to go to another American university, out of state tuition would be equal to or greater what I paid in Canada
- the good Canadian universities are equal to good American universities
- Canada is a better place to live than the United States
- it was easy to get a visa, simple to live here, and now, simple to immigrate

If I was an international student coming to Canada to study, I would have no qualms at all about any undergraduate or graduate degree program at any 'normal' university -- but I would look out for all of the certificate programs that schools are developing to suck in foreign student money. A certificate is not a degree, and in Canada, a college is not a university . . . I wouldn't assume that they are valued by employers.
 

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well if ur going for bachelors then no u wont get aid in US I was talking about masters. and yes SAT's r required for bachelors and not GRE as GRE is graduate record examination. And canada also does not give aid for bachelors no difference there. I feel and its just my opinion but talent goes to US and rest go every where else with few exceptions. I know people will be offended by this but its just my opinion that canada gives any tom dick and harry a visa. everyone in canada makes money collages who give admission on any grades to the CIC and the banks who give out loans. only person at a loss is the student who does not get a job and has to work part time to make ends meet.
well as far as talent thing is concerned. I am offended. I have been selected by a very good (15th in world) uni but still i am choosing Canada (lot of aid and less tuition.) It's not about talent but its about personal choice keeping in mind the personal circumstances.
 

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meagan99 said:
well as far as talent thing is concerned. I am offended. I have been selected by a very good (15th in world) uni but still i am choosing Canada (lot of aid and less tuition.) It's not about talent but its about personal choice keeping in mind the personal circumstances of a person.
Agreed, only an idiot would think this -- there are great reasons that would take a person to graduate school in Canada, England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, even New Zealand or South Africa. There's absolutely no sort of national prestige that sticks to a degree from any institution, good work can be done in any of them. Within the United States a degree from the University of Wisconsin can be far superior to a degree from Harvard, it depends on the subject. Within Canada there are a large range of institutions that are competitive with the best American schools.
 

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Agreed, only an idiot would think this -- there are great reasons that would take a person to graduate school in Canada, England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, even New Zealand or South Africa. There's absolutely no sort of national prestige that sticks to a degree from any institution, good work can be done in any of them. Within the United States a degree from the University of Wisconsin can be far superior to a degree from Harvard, it depends on the subject. Within Canada there are a large range of institutions that are competitive with the best American schools.
an idiot will only look at just the education and not overall life. in canada agreed education is top notch however after graduation talent in ur field is not required but who u know is more important. jobs come by if u know people or have relatives etc . canada has hidden job market that is difficult for foreigners with no relatives or no network and limited english/french speaking ability to access
ofcourse education is good no one argues about that but over all quality of life is inferior to US. again this is my opinion and no need to judge someone. yes there r various other reasons to go to canada like immigration ...visa etc
 

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mead said:
an idiot will only look at just the education and not overall life. in canada agreed education is top notch however after graduation talent in ur field is not required but who u know is more important. jobs come by if u know people or have relatives etc . canada has hidden job market that is difficult for foreigners with no relatives or no network and limited english/french speaking ability to access
ofcourse education is good no one argues about that but over all quality of life is inferior to US. again this is my opinion and no need to judge someone. yes there r various other reasons to go to canada like immigration ...visa etc
It's normal to be judged for the statements one makes -- this one of yours is ridiculous. Canada has never been considered to have an inferior quality of life to the United States; but in the past, the U.S. was richer, this was the trade-off that Canadians (and Americans) accepted. Now, even that isn't true any more -- not only are Canada's quality of life, civic life, political culture, and educational/health system considered to be far superior, its middle class is substantially richer than America's middle class.

We're arguing about quality of education -- if you want to drag in the job market, that's something else. It's not particularly relevant to compare with America's, since there immigration is employment-based.

If you're planning on hitting some sort of Silicon Valley jackpot, then the States is the place for you. Otherwise, what does it offer?