Immigiration or sponsorship for my mentally retarded brother

[civic]

Thank you so much everyone for your very informative and kind replies !

The feeling that nothing can be done to bring him here is really very depressing for me.
I have been trying every possibility for my mentally retarded brother for his better care.....I tried to hire care takers, asked other relatives for his care and actually gave them handsome amount monthly, even I kept my brother in special children institutes & centres and paid for their fee plus for a lot more extra hidden expenses they asked for.... so that they could treat him well but in every case they end up of doing physical torture to my brother sometimes hidden sometimes prominent and there is no one there to see the scars or tortures marks on his body. My brother himself is not been able to understand, explain or express his pain, hunger or anything which a normal person can do.

The only solution I can think of is to move permanently to Pakistan and keep him with me and take care of him.... I am ready to give the sacrifice to live there alone without my immediate family ( husband, sons & daughter) who are well settled here and dont want yo move there with me.... but I always think that I won't be that strong if I'll live alone in Pakistan without my family around and thats the only reason I wanted to bring my brother here because me and my family all are here for him to take care of.

Adoption is a good solution but not sure if a person aged 44 can be adopted ( although my mentally retarded brother's mental age is not more than 2 years child)
Canada is a country of humanity and are there any organizations who can help me to bring my brother for the humanity sake and could think beyond the legal restrictions, I mean to say work according to the legal formalities but could think for the sake of humanity.....

I wish if I can find some solution with the help of all you kind people.
Thanks once again.

Rubina

Canada is well known as a country of humanity??? You might be mistaken Canada with the USA. USA promotes family values and reunification. Canada hates that !

 

[screech339]

Canada is well known as a country of humanity??? You might be mistaken Canada with the USA. USA promotes family values and reunification. Canada hates that !

Where are you getting this from? Just because the PR processing is very slow doesn't mean Canada hates family reunification. Has it occur to you that CiC has limited manpower to deal with the vast amount of applications being submitted along with background checks.

US has the money and manpower to deal with the applications in US. A spouse can get a green card in about 2 months, mind you that is 2 year condition Green card, unless they are already married 2 years.

 

[civic]

Where are you getting this from? Just because the PR processing is very slow doesn't mean Canada hates family reunification. Has it occur to you that CiC has limited manpower to deal with the vast amount of applications being submitted along with background checks.

US has the money and manpower to deal with the applications in US. A spouse can get a green card in about 2 months, mind you that is 2 year condition Green card, unless they are already married 2 years.

US accepts children, siblings, parents, spouse, fiancé of US citizens (in some cases PR, too). Canada only accept spouses, very limited number for parents, a dream never come true for anyone wishing to bring siblings here. The processing time in USA, for most categories, are way better than CIC.

Mind you that in couple years from now USA will have exactly same universal health care as Canada so Canadian politicians should not use that as an excuse to bar people from joining their families in Canada. They can just say they hate immigrants. That makes more sense.

Back to OP topic. It`s a sad situation. But situations like yours happen everyday to immigrant families in Canada.

Besides, if they dont hate immigrants, they want people to be reunited, then just put more money and manpower to deal with the backlog. They spend money on what? Protecting Ukraine, war in Iraq??? And see immigrants suffer from their mistreat because "they dont have money" Wow!

 

[Rob_TO]

Canada is a country of humanity and are there any organizations who can help me to bring my brother for the humanity sake and could think beyond the legal restrictions, I mean to say work according to the legal formalities but could think for the sake of humanity.....

This is the price every immigrant must pay when immigrating to Canada, and that is that they may leave behind some family members that will never qualify to also immigrate here.

There is a Humanitarian and Compassionate route for sponsorship, but sounds like it would be difficult for you since your brother is a non-eligible family member plus the added complexity of the excessive demand issue. If you do pursue sponsorship via the H&C route, you should be prepared for many years in the appeals court, lots of lawyer fees, and the high chance your brother would still be denied in the end. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/inside/h-and-c.asp

 

[screech339]

Mind you that in couple years from now USA will have exactly same universal health care as Canada so Canadian politicians should not use that as an excuse to bar people from joining their families in Canada. They can just say they hate immigrants. That makes more sense.

US will never reach the universal health care level (Obamacare) to Canada unless they change it to single tax system like Canada. You will always have to pay for medical insurance no matter what, even under Obamacare. You can't pay for medical insurance if you don't have a job to pay for it. So if you are unemployed or out of a job, you are still screwed. No job, no medical insurance.

Here in Canada, you will have medical coverage, no or no job. Which makes Canada a more desirable and attractive country to immigrants worldwide.

 

[civic]

US will never reach the universal health care level (Obamacare) to Canada unless they change it to single tax system like Canada. You will always have to pay for medical insurance no matter what, even under Obamacare. You can't pay for medical insurance if you don't have a job to pay for it. So if you are unemployed or out of a job, you are still screwed. No job, no medical insurance. Here in Canada, you will have medical coverage, no or no job. Which makes Canada a more desirable and attractive to immigrants worldwide.

You don't come here to get sick, do you? What makes you think Canada is more attractive to immigrants? Many people came here as a backdoor to USA, many H1B immigrated to Canada because the quota for foreign professionals in USA is limited. Who wouldn't want to live with their family members after they immigrate to a strange new country?
Who would say let's go to Canada so when we get sick we dont pay the bills? It's not a special priviledge as Canadian government makes it seem like.

 

[screech339]

You don't come here to get sick, do you? What makes you think Canada is more attractive to immigrants? Many people came here as a backdoor to USA, many H1B immigrated to Canada because the quota for foreign professionals in USA is limited. Who wouldn't want to live with their family members after they immigrate to a strange new country?

You brought up Obamacare, not me. So I could say the same. You didn't come to US to get sick, do you either. Maybe they don't want to sell their house to pay for medical bills after being unemployed.

As for being without their family, they made a conscious and informed decision to move to Canada. That includes being part of the decision of marrying Canadians and PR's.

 

[keesio]

His brother is from Pakistan, but I agree the only option for them is to just send money from Canada to him in Pakistan to take care of him.

yes I agree this is the best option. Your dollars will go much further there. The issue is finding a place where he can get quality care...

 

[QuebecOkie]

OP, I'm truly sorry that there seem to be no good options for you, and it seems to me like there should be. I wish you the best as you struggle with some very, very difficult decisions.

As for civic...

Canada is well known as a country of humanity??? You might be mistaken Canada with the USA. USA promotes family values and reunification. Canada hates that !

US accepts children, siblings, parents, spouse, fiancé of US citizens (in some cases PR, too). Canada only accept spouses, very limited number for parents, a dream never come true for anyone wishing to bring siblings here. The processing time in USA, for most categories, are way better than CIC.

Many people came here as a backdoor to USA, many H1B immigrated to Canada because the quota for foreign professionals in USA is limited. Who wouldn't want to live with their family members after they immigrate to a strange new country?

So 'Murica is so great...but people immigrate here because they can't immigrate to the USA?

It sounds like you're either trying to pick a fight or just angry at everything around you and lashing out without thought or reason.

I'm American. And a PR of Canada, married to a Canadian military member. BOTH countries have some wonderful opportunities and some woeful shortcomings. Immigration to ANY country is a huge decision, and I would say usually calls for some very real sacrifices, should one decide to move forward with it. Do people fall through the cracks and end up in difficult places? Absolutely. Is it easy to criticize the process here? Again, definitely. The same could be said for any major life decisions that involve uprooting oneself in such a way.

As for throwing more money at the problem, that's the go-to US solution for things, and it's full of its own horrible and wasteful shortcomings, as well. Money doesn't come from thin air, and I'd venture a guess that MOST Canadians (as with most Americans) don't wish to have much, if any, of their tax money spent on issues benefiting immigrants. Increasing the budget is much, much easier said than done, and it has to come from somewhere (the Canadian people).

 

[scylla]

US accepts children, siblings, parents, spouse, fiancé of US citizens (in some cases PR, too). Canada only accept spouses, very limited number for parents, a dream never come true for anyone wishing to bring siblings here. The processing time in USA, for most categories, are way better than CIC.

The US has its own limitations which make it seem unjust and not humanitarian to some (not my opinion - those expressed on US immigration forums).

There are minimum income requirements to sponsor a spouse. This means that if you don't meet the minimum income requirement (either because you're in school or don't have a job that allows you to make enough money) and can't find a co-sponsor who is willing to take financial responsibility for the applicant, then you're out of luck and can't sponsor your spouse.

Dependent minor children cannot be sponsored along with their parents (i.e. cannot be sponsored as part of the same application) but have to be sponsored later. This creates a major hurddle for many parent sponsorship cases where young minor children cannot be left alone without their parents in their home country.

Yes - adult siblings can be sponsored. However the processing / wait time is a minimum of 12 years and 20+ years for certain countries.

 

[screech339]

The US has its own limitations which make it seem unjust and not humanitarian to some (not my opinion - those expressed on US immigration forums).

There are minimum income requirements to sponsor a spouse. This means that if you don't meet the minimum income requirement (either because you're in school or don't have a job that allows you to make enough money) and can't find a co-sponsor who is willing to take financial responsibility for the applicant, then you're out of luck and can't sponsor your spouse.

Dependent minor children cannot be sponsored along with their parents (i.e. cannot be sponsored as part of the same application) but have to be sponsored later. This creates a major hurddle for many parent sponsorship cases where young minor children cannot be left alone without their parents in their home country.

Yes - adult siblings can be sponsored. However the processing / wait time is a minimum of 12 years and 20+ years for certain countries.

So civic,

As scylla has shown above the US immigration process, you now know the differences between Canada and US. I still think Canada immigration process are still much better than US immigration policy and wait times in comparison. So based on US immigration policy, I wouldn't be surprised that Canada immigration policy is more attractive to immigrants.

At least in Canada, new immigrants can get cost free help in getting services and training on how to integrate and settle in Canada.

Once you land in US with a green card, you are on your own, no help from the government to settle in US.

Screech339

 

[truesmile]

Amen! +1

And . . . YES they DO consider the benefits of 'free Health Care' that come with immigrating to Canada.

 

[user828]

Sorry to cut in, but don't think the term "Mentally Retarded" is used anymore - its mostly called Intellectually Challenged. I feel using that term is insulting to a person

 

[Rainbow.Rainbow]

Is there any way to bring my mentally retarded brother (aged 44) from backhome (Pakistan) to here in Canada through immigiration or sponsorship.

After my parents death there is no one there to take care of him even the relatives or the special institutes were failed to take care and my mentally retarded brother is in a very miserable condition right now.

I am a Canadian citizen and a housewife , my family here ( husband & children ) are willing to bring and support my brother here , they just dont know the legal procedure regarding sponsorship or Immigiration of such a person like my brother.I hope if anyone can help or guide me in this matter I' ll be grateful to them all my life.

Thanks
Rubina

I believe the best course of action is discuss with the lawyer, he /she can give you the best course of action. Right now I can suggest only just apply for the visit visa for him and once he is here apply for the permanent residency on humanitarian grounds. Regards.

 

[truesmile]

Sorry to cut in, but don't think the term "Mentally Retarded" is used anymore - its mostly called Intellectually Challenged. I feel using that term is insulting to a person

Not even.

It's "alternately mentally abled".