IMM0008 Schedule 3 Question3

[nao]

Hi everyone,

Please help me.
I am filling out skilled worker application forms.

I have an open work permit and I am working for a Canadian company.
I was hired like same as other Canadain by an employer.
I found a job posting and applied for it and got a position.
My proffesion is not on the 38 professions list, but under the NOC skilled level B.
I have an arranged emplayment letter that my employer made for me, but the letter didn't go through HRSDC.

I have a question about question 3 on IMM 0008 Schedule 3.

"Check the box to indicate if you have an offer of employment in Canada that is approved by Human Resources and Skill Development Canada. If Yes, include the employer's name and address and the occupation in which you have been offered employment in Canada."

I am not sure what this mean.
"if you have an offer of employment in Canada that is approved by Human Resources and Skill Development Canada."

Do you think that I can check the box and provide my company name?

Thank you for your help.

Nao

 

[Mermaid3011]

Hi there,

if your employment letter is not an AEO from HRSDC you shouldnt check the box.
your employer can write as many letters as he wants - if they arent processed and confirmed by HRSDC they arent worth a penny I fear. (otherwise I would have done that too... lol....)
Under which category FSW are you applying - I assume not under category "arranged employment" but as a student or with Canadian work experience, right?
cheers
Brigit

 

[nao]

Hi Brigit,

Thank you for your help.

I am going to apply for Skilled Worker Category 2 because I think that my case is under the conditions below. If anyone thinks that I am not qualified for this category, plase let me know.
*I have an arranged employment letter which was provided by my employer and didn't go through HRSDC.

Category 2
You have an offer of arranged employment in Canada. The employment offer should be:
•in writing,
•indeterminate in duration, and
•meet the "arranged employment" factor described in this guide.

Factor 5
Arranged employment (maximum of 10 points)
If you are currently working in Canada on a work permit and "Your work permit is valid when you apply for a permanent resident visa" and "Your employer has made an offer to give you a permanent job if your application is successful."

Thank for your help.
Nao

 

[Mermaid3011]

Hi Nao,

I really believe that your Arranged Employment Offer needs to be validated through HRSDC.

I'll check the guide later today and will get back to you on that.

Can meanwhile someone else give their opinion please?

Does your arranged employment for FSW cat 2 need to be validated by HRSDC or is a letter from the employer enough?

Thanks!

 

[nao]

Thanks Brigit,

Do you think that I also lose 15 (10+5) points because the arranged employment letter hasn't gone through HRSDC?

I thought that I could apply for Canadian Immigration fainally...
However, I think I still have a chance to apply for Skilled Worker category 3.

If someone knows about "Arranged Employment", please help me.

I am waiting for your responce.

Thank you for your help.

Nao

 

[juanda78]

Yes it has to be confirmed by Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC).
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-employment.asp

1) If you are currently working in Canada:

•your current employer must have made an offer to give you a permanent job if you are accepted as a federal skilled worker, and
•your temporary work permit must be valid both when you apply for a permanent resident visa and when the visa is issued.

In addition:

•your work permit must have been confirmed by Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC) through a positive labour market opinion or
•you must be in a category that is exempt from an Arranged Employment Opinion.

Regards.

 

[Mermaid3011]

Hi there!

I had to research a little and found the following on the cic homepage.
This is the link: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2008/ob093.asp

Its from the Operational Bulletin 93 and it seems I was wrong!
You might not need to have the AEO validated by HRSDC if I understand the following paragraph correctly:

6) What is meant by the acronym “AEO” in OB 089 and OP 6?

The Ministerial Instructions state that applications received on or after February 27, 2008, with an offer of Arranged Employment … shall be placed into processing immediately. The term arranged employment in the applicant guide [IMM EG7000 (11-2008)] is a link to the section of the guide that explains section 82 of the IRPR. Arranged Employment Offer (AEO) in all sections of OP 6 means an offer would result in points being awarded pursuant to section 82 of the IRPR. An arranged employment opinion from Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC) is not necessarily a requirement to be awarded points pursuant to this section. An arranged employment opinion from HRSDC is also not a requirement pursuant to the Ministerial Instructions.

The difference between Arranged Employment Offer and Arranged Employment Opinion is clearer in French as two different acronyms are used.

The Application Guide is being amended to make it clearer what applicants must submit. The amended wording will be as follows:

If you are currently working in Canada under a work permit, provide a photocopy of the permit and a letter from your employer confirming how much longer you will be employed (if applicable).
If you have a permanent job offer confirmed by HRSDC, attach a photocopy of the HRSDC/Service Canada confirmation letter (Arranged Employment Opinion) which was sent to your employer.
The letter mentioned in the first bullet is the arranged employment offer. In the situation described in the second bullet, it is the arranged employment opinion that is in essence the arranged employment offer.

If applicants do not submit either the work permit and offer from the employer to continue employing the applicant on an indeterminate basis, or the HRSDC arranged employment opinion, the application cannot be placed into processing. Staff should exercise care to not place applications into processing unless there is sufficient evidence of an arranged employment offer.

Applications from work permit holders, i.e. persons working in Canada, may be placed into processing with an arranged employment offer (AEO). Applications from persons who are not work permit holders, i.e. persons not working Canada, may be placed into processing with an HRSDC issued arranged employment opinion.

Note that for the AEO category, the requirement to have resided legally in Canada for at least one year that Temporary Foreign Workers and International Students must meet, does not apply. Temporary Foreign Workers do not need to demonstrate an arranged employment offer to be eligible.


To me it seems that they use AEO as acronym for the arranged employment OPINION as well as for an arranged employment OFFER!!!

I hope my information doesnt come too late and maybe someone from the more experienced people can comment on this!!!
Thanks Brigit

 

[nao]

Hi Brigit,

Thank you so much for your reserch and help.

Hi everyone,

Please help me.

As I mentioned that I have an arranged employment letter which is provided by my employer and doesn't go through HRSDC. I have been working for this company more than 12 months and the company is in Canada.

Question3 under Schedule 3(IMM 0008 (10-2008))
Do you have an offer of employment in Canada approved by Human Resources Development Canada?

1. Do you think that I can check "Yes"?
As far as I know this section is related to Factor 5 "Arranged employment (Maximum 10 points).
However, my arranged letter is not approved by HRDC.

2. Can I apply for Skilled worker Category 2 ?
Or, should I apply for it Category 3?

3. Do you think that the prosess of imigration documents go faster under Category 2 than Category 3?

Thak you for your help.

Nao

I am going to send my documents to Sydney at the beginning of June.

 

[ermur]

Hello nao,

I am in the exact same situation, so what did you do? Did you check the "Yes" box and provide the name of your current employer? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

ermur

 

[chesterbr]

Hi Nao/Ermur/everyone!

I am also in the same situation (work permit, letter from my employer not checked by HRSDC). I am confident that I can apply (based on the link mentioned above), but I'm also unsure on what to answer on IMM0008 Schedule 3 Question 3.

Hoping not to get (much) off-topic, I'd like to ask about Question 4 of the main IMM0008 form (Immigration Office). The instructions imply I should indicate my countr of origin's office (as I've been living in Canada for less than one year) and to not select CIO, but I believe my case will be assessed in Canada, not in Brazil. What did you (as work-permit bearers that I suppose to live in Canada) write there?

Thank you!

 

[chesterbr]

Just to leave a record: I've applied for the OPP-Ottawa, and it all went fine. I've just sent my passports! \o/