Im sponsoring my common law partner, please help !!!

[vutrang]

Hi everyone,

I and my common law partner have been living for 1 year. So now I prepare everything to sponsor my partner, but I confuse something, please help me

First, We started living together from July 2012 to May 2013 in Australia(10 months) and from May up to now in Vietnam, total 12 months. However we opened join bank account just from September in Australia. We dont have any proof to prove we were living together from July to end of August 2012 (2 months). I just had a plane ticket to show that I came to Australia in July 2012 and some picture we took at the airport on that day. So my question is can I fill out in the form that we began becoming common law from the July 2012 or We need to wait until this September?

Second, I am a Canadian Citizen and I am living in Vietnam with him until my partner get visa. I only have bank statement still have around $ CAD 4000 in my account, and some letter from my friends in Canada. So are these evidences strong enough to prove that I intend to go back Canada?

Finally, 8 years ago I got married with a girl, but I and my wife were not happy, so we divorced after that. 2 years ago I fell in love with my partner BUT he is a man, so we are the same sex couple now. I can have feeling with both man and woman. So is this a big problem for us? Are they accept people who are bio sexual. And in the form which way we should explain my situation for Visa officer?

So many thanks for helps !!!
Regards

 

[MaxLet]

Hello!
I'll try to be as honest and clair as I can. First of all, im not a senior here, so u might wanna wait for other replys
For the time of common-law, well, you can risk sending the proofs that you have, but honestly your file doesn't seem strong enough, maybe it will be better to wait? Do you have a sign lease from the place where you too are leaving now in vietnam? and from australia? that might help. Have you consider getting married? (might sound as a big decision but it will give some "weight" to a weak file...You can put that you start living together in july 2012 and explain in a separate paper why you dont have proofs of it.
Do you have share bills or bills in your name and others on his name that arrive to the same adress? that might help too.
The fact that you are bisexual is not an issue in a free country as canada is, however i will strongly recommend for you guys (maybe both of you) right a letter, (there's a question number 12 in one of the formularies, i think the one for the applicant) where it asks you to explain your relationship. you both can write one side each, you can tell your story (fail marriage, etc) and how you met, and also your plans for the future.
Theres no financial requierements for sponsoring a common law or spouse, but you might wanna add a letter stablishing that you are looking (or you will be looking) for a job as soon as possible, stating your abilities and your expertise in work market.
Thats all I can say to you, GOD BLESS, and good luck!

 

[amikety]

1) You surely have some type of proof. How about notarized letters from landlords? Did you sign a rental lease or roommate agreements? What about statements from friends or neighbors that you were together as a couple? Mail you both received at the same address?

Simple rule with CIC - if you don't have proof, it never happened. If you cannot offer proof that you were living together, then to CIC, it never happened. You must be able to prove everything!

If you don't reach 12 months (with proof), your application will likely be rejected as not fitting under Common-Law (even if it's months later and you are definitely CL by that point!).

2) No, probably not. CIC will want to see plans to return to Canada - such as buying a house or renting an apartment. Getting a job offer. Of course, this is difficult because you don't know when you'll get the visa, so you can't plan to look for a job or get a place to live, right? So, send letters from friends offering to let you live with them when you first get back to Canada. You can also write a letter to CIC and tell them you will supply proof to return when they are ready to issue the visa. Then you can supply emails from landlords and proof you're applying (and maybe interviewing) for jobs in Canada.

3) Which VO are you applying through? Manila? Manila is.... sticky sometimes. You may want to address the fact you're bi-sexual in a letter. You will have to provide copies of your divorce papers, so you can attach a letter just letting the VO know the truth. I wouldn't ask you to explain your feelings here - only advise you do explain them to the VO. Be honest with them and be upfront.

 

[mikeymyke]

Marriage is not an option, as gay marriage is not permitted in Vietnam, if it's not legal there, it's not considered legal here.

 

[amikety]

Marriage is not an option, as gay marriage is not permitted in Vietnam, if it's not legal there, it's not considered legal here.

Not necessarily. If they get married in a country where it is legal, their marriage will be recognized by Canada regardless of what Vietnam thinks. So they could go to Argentina (for example) to get married and qualify as married under CIC's definition of Family Class - Spouse - Married.

 

[vutrang]

Thanks you so much Maxlet for your reply

From September 2012 to May 2013 in Australia we have some proofs:
- Join bank account
- We both have Australian driver license with the same address
- We did order something on internet, so the goods were sent to both of us at the same address
- A lot of pictures with our friends, our aunt and uncle family
- We booked plane ticket at the same time and date for leaving Australia and come to Vietnam
- We traveled some places and we have ticket

From May 2013 up to now in Vietnam We have

- Join bank account
- We are both living with our brother house. We already registered our name for the police . So we have the document from the police to prove that we are both living at the same address (our brother house)
- We traveled some places and have pictures and the receipt for the hotel show the name two of us .
- We took some pictures with family in Vietnam
- We have some letters from friends and family from Canada and Australia

I dont know these proofs enough for common law or we need to get married in the country accept gay married?

So I think I will wait until September this year for safety


Thanks for any helps
Regards,

 

[vutrang]

To Amikety: Thanks Amikety, I will apply VO through Singapore.

I dont have notarized letter from the landlord and rental lease. We just paid cash for the landlord every month.
We also dont have shared bill because I paid some hundreds for rental room including bill: gas,elec,internet,water.
If we dont have these proofs, Can we become common law partner? I mean our others proofs we have can evidence we are common law? And I will try to submit application with any proofs we have.

I can ask my roommate living in Australia write a statement that we were together as a couple. Can this letter help our file stronger?

Thanks everyone
Regards,

 

[amikety]

Well, as a CL couple, you will need at least 2 notarized statements to your relationship anyway. Getting one that attests to how long you've been together is a good idea if you're skimpy on other proofs. It's my opinion you'll need more than just a letter though (even notarized). You'll need bank statements, rental leases, mail going to the same address, etc.

If you're unable to provide proof aside from a letter, I don't think CIC will be satisfied. Of course, you can try.

Singapore takes a very long time to process applications on average. As far as intent to return to Canada, I would definitely write a letter and explain given their long processing times and the uncertainty of when the visa will be ready, you can supply proof when they are ready to issue the visa.

 

[canadianwoman]

First, We started living together from July 2012 to May 2013 in Australia(10 months) and from May up to now in Vietnam, total 12 months. However we opened join bank account just from September in Australia. We dont have any proof to prove we were living together from July to end of August 2012 (2 months).

I would wait until at least September before sending in the application. You should state you started living together in July 2012, but CIC will want proof and so I would wait until one year from when you opened the joint bank account.

Finally, 8 years ago I got married with a girl, but I and my wife were not happy, so we divorced after that. 2 years ago I fell in love with my partner BUT he is a man, so we are the same sex couple now. I can have feeling with both man and woman. So is this a big problem for us? Are they accept people who are bio sexual. And in the form which way we should explain my situation for Visa officer?

It is not a big problem. CIC accepts that people are bisexual. But you will have to explain it in the application.

 

[vutrang]

Thanks Canadianwoman !!

Ok, We will wait until September.