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scylla

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My advice here may seems weird or unreasonable but I am open to correction. First, what is your status in the US? I understand you said .."I haven't gone back to the US in two years." If you are US citizen or permanent resident it will make sense to restore your status there. Then you can depart for State. Your husband as a Canadian citizen, I suppose can always visit you there with your child. You can also applied for restoration of your status here in Canada if you have genuine and reasonable ground such as health/medical factor (Interest of a child or compassionate). Though, you might need help of a lawyer or legal expert. On the issue of financing or paying for the services, I believe your husband will be able to take one time credit for the sake of your unification.
Not possible to apply for restoration. This is only feasible within 90 days of falling out of status. OP has been out of status for 1.5 years (give or take).
 

Smoofy

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Well, it does suck that no matter what I HAVE to go back to the US, considering there isn't a place to stay for me. It'd be even harder to leave my son, and husband.

Thank you everyone for your replies. They were both educational, and very helpful on getting my mind on the right track on what to do.
 

scylla

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28-06-2010
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Well, it does suck that no matter what I HAVE to go back to the US, considering there isn't a place to stay for me. It'd be even harder to leave my son, and husband.

Thank you everyone for your replies. They were both educational, and very helpful on getting my mind on the right track on what to do.
No - you don't have to go back to the US. No one here has said that. I would recommend you read through the responses again more carefully.

Your husband can sponsor you for PR while you remain in Canada (and provided he's not on welfare). However it's going to be many months before you qualify for a work permit.

There is no path that gets you a work permit fast.
 

Smoofy

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My advice here may seems weird or unreasonable but I am open to correction. First, what is your status in the US? I understand you said .."I haven't gone back to the US in two years." If you are US citizen or permanent resident it will make sense to restore your status there. Then you can depart for State. Your husband as a Canadian citizen, I suppose can always visit you there with your child. You can also applied for restoration of your status here in Canada if you have genuine and reasonable ground such as health/medical factor (Interest of a child or compassionate). Though, you might need help of a lawyer or legal expert. On the issue of financing or paying for the services, I believe your husband will be able to take one time credit for the sake of your unification.
I was born and raised in the US, so I am an American citizen. Also have a renewed, and up-to-date US passport. About the restoration of status..do you mean restore my initial 6 month visitation time while I'm here?
 

Smoofy

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Dec 16, 2019
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No - you don't have to go back to the US. No one here has said that. I would recommend you read through the responses again more carefully.

Your husband can sponsor you for PR while you remain in Canada (and provided he's not on welfare). However it's going to be many months before you qualify for a work permit.

There is no path that gets you a work permit fast.
Ah Imust have mistook 21gooses reply differently the when he said,"

"Don't worry about being separated from your family. Assuming you don't have a criminal record, your case really isn't that uncommon, and it's usually a routine process to become a PR."
 

scylla

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I was born and raised in the US, so I am an American citizen. Also have a renewed, and up-to-date US passport. About the restoration of status..do you mean restore my initial 6 month visitation time while I'm here?
You can't restore your status. You have been out of status for too long. This was only possible within 90 days of falling out of status - you are well past that.
 

babsizkil

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I was born and raised in the US, so I am an American citizen. Also have a renewed, and up-to-date US passport. About the restoration of status..do you mean restore my initial 6 month visitation time while I'm here?
Oh good. No, I mean if you are PR in the US.
 

babsizkil

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You can't restore your status. You have been out of status for too long. This was only possible within 90 days of falling out of status - you are well past that.
Is there anything she can do in Canada without first restoring her status? Even if she is not eligible. She can still apply. I believe if she can demonstrate reasonable grounds why she was out of status.She maybe fortunate. I found this scenario;
If the applicant not eligible for restoration
The Minister’s delegate decides on a disposition for the case. The following options are available:
  • refer the case to an admissibility hearing,
  • issue a departure order, or
  • allow the foreign national to remain.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/visitors/restoration-status.html
 

scylla

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28-06-2010
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01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Is there anything she can do in Canada without first restoring her status? Even if she is not eligible. She can still apply. I believe if she can demonstrate reasonable grounds why she was out of status.She maybe fortunate. I found this scenario;
If the applicant not eligible for restoration
The Minister’s delegate decides on a disposition for the case. The following options are available:
  • refer the case to an admissibility hearing,
  • issue a departure order, or
  • allow the foreign national to remain.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/visitors/restoration-status.html
IMO she does NOT want to trigger the Minister's delegate decision process. This would be incredibly risky if her priority is not to leave Canada and not to have issues re-entering Canada. This brings the risk that a departure order will be raised and she will then be forced to leave (or it will turn into a deportation order within 30 days which will then require an ARC to return and make the PR process more complicated). Better to lay low in that case - really, the best option is to have her husband sponsor her for PR as soon as possible.
 
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babsizkil

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IMO she does NOT want to trigger the Minister's delegate decision process. This would be incredibly risky if her priority is not to leave Canada and not to have issues re-entering Canada. This brings the risk that a departure order will be raised and she will then be forced to leave (or it will turn into a deportation order within 30 days which will then require an ARC to return and make the PR process more complicated). Better to lay low in that case - really, the best option is to have her husband sponsor her for PR as soon as possible.
I agree Scylla. I just realize she may be waived of the valid temporary resident status.
Under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class.
Members of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class must meet all of the following:
  • be the spouse or common-law partner of sponsor, and live in Canada with sponsor
  • have valid temporary resident status in Canada (this regulatory requirement may be waived under the spousal public policy)
  • be the subject of a sponsorship application
 

canuck_in_uk

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I agree Scylla. I just realize she may be waived of the valid temporary resident status.
Under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class.
Members of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class must meet all of the following:
  • be the spouse or common-law partner of sponsor, and live in Canada with sponsor
  • have valid temporary resident status in Canada (this regulatory requirement may be waived under the spousal public policy)
  • be the subject of a sponsorship application
Nothing needs to be waived. Valid status is not required to be sponsored. This has been stated several times already on this thread.
 
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k.h.p.

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I agree Scylla. I just realize she may be waived of the valid temporary resident status.
Under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class.
Members of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class must meet all of the following:
  • be the spouse or common-law partner of sponsor, and live in Canada with sponsor
  • have valid temporary resident status in Canada (this regulatory requirement may be waived under the spousal public policy)
  • be the subject of a sponsorship application
The discussion around status is related to the work permit discussion. She is not eligible for the work permit for inland applicants until she has AIP for a PR application.

She is eligible to apply for PR, but not receive the early OWP.

As said above, she shouldn't try to trigger a minister's delegate decision in any way.
 
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scylla

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Buffalo
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28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
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28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I agree Scylla. I just realize she may be waived of the valid temporary resident status.
Under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class.
Members of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class must meet all of the following:
  • be the spouse or common-law partner of sponsor, and live in Canada with sponsor
  • have valid temporary resident status in Canada (this regulatory requirement may be waived under the spousal public policy)
  • be the subject of a sponsorship application
A person does not need to have valid status in Canada in order to be sponsored by their spouse. There's absolutely no need to fix her status before applying. She is fine to apply while out of status. Many on this forum have done so successfully.
 

21Goose

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Ah Imust have mistook 21gooses reply differently the when he said,"

"Don't worry about being separated from your family. Assuming you don't have a criminal record, your case really isn't that uncommon, and it's usually a routine process to become a PR."
Yes - I meant that you will NOT be separated from your family while you go through the sponsorship process.
 
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mahi2020

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you can work in jobs which pay "cash" without any work permit.

usually these jobs are for cashiers/subway food servers/waitresses etc.