If OINP is giving out PT Notification for 400+ then CRS cutoff has to match that

[CanadaWeCome]

Dears

If OINP(earlier OONP) is giving out PT Notification for 400+ as a cutoff then CRS cutoff for ITA also has to match that by year 2015 end.

Otherwise it will be illogical that applicants with a bare score(w/o Job LIMA and PNP) of around 400(+/- few points) are not getting ITAs through the draw and similar people with PNP getting PT Notifications and then ITA ultimately (If qualified)

Solicit your opinion...

 

[farazh89]

I don't think so. CIC has no obligation to keep the cutoff at the same level as OINP. If that happens PNP will fail and people would accept direct ITA everytime. However, if CRS cutoffs do drop to 400 then Ontario should think of inviting 350+ score participants.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

While i do agree that there is no obligation but think of it this way.

Cutoff for CRS draw ITA is 450+(say) and as we know OINP PT Notification cutoff is 400+

Then some applicants who are between (400<CRS<450) e.g. 403, 410, 425...etc. will be getting PNPs only (and may fail eventually, if rejected despite paying $1,500 CAD) and all CRS 450+ applicants successfully getting ITAs through draw.

Or is it that all applicants(who have checked the box for Ontario PNPs in their EE profile) mandatorily get PT Nominations first before getting an ITA through the draw?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Ontario is just 1 of the provinces giving out nominations. There are others as well. And each of those provinces wants the highest possible ranked applicants to apply and receive their nominations. Which clearly rules out anyone above 450 because they would probably get a 'regular' ITA at some point in time.

Ontario is the only province which decided a CRS score based eligibility criteria (400+) for their PN program. 400+ is a necessary but not sufficient condition to get an invite from Ontario. Other provinces haven't followed suit but they have their own ranking methodologies. It is very likely that applicants in the range of 400-450 get a PN from one province or the other. But this will be a bell curve with most of the applicants lying between 415-435 so that takes care of the mid range leaving only the outliers untouched. Which is unfortunate for anyone in the 436-449 range. But it is increasingly looking likely that CIC would have a sub 450 cutoff within the next 6 months given the dynamics of recent draws. And of course there are the other provinces as well.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

Fair enough...

 

[CanadaWeCome]

In other words:

"Ontario is helping 400+(but <450) applicants get(maybe expedite depending on their speed of processing) ITAs despite the CIC cutoff being 450+(As of now maintained) for a payment of $1,500CAD."

 

[Asivad Anac]

Partly true. Ontario has extended invites to the 450+ crowd as well but few and far between.

 

[CanadaWeCome]

Point being in a perfectly controlled environment (where they are controlling the cutoffs & the No of ITA issued per week hence in a year) called 'Express Entry' created by CIC for all immigrants to Canada, Ontario is showing them a finger (and any province can do that for that matter) by creating a ripple (if not chaos) in their plan and telling them that they are not the only ones who call the shots, to too can have a say on who & when an applicant gets an ITA.

This is clearly a gap in their system.

 

[bellaluna]

Point being in a perfectly controlled environment (where they are controlling the cutoffs & the No of ITA issued per week hence in a year) called 'Express Entry' created by CIC for all immigrants to Canada, Ontario is showing them a finger (and any province can do that for that matter) by creating a ripple (if not chaos) in their plan and telling them that they are not the only ones who call the shots, to too can have a say on who & when an applicant gets an ITA.

This is clearly a gap in their system.

I think this is too harsh an interpretation. PNP quotas are decided by CIC to ease the volume of federal (usually economic) immigrant applications to CIC. PNPs HELP the CIC in issuing ITAs.
Someone had expressed here before that Ontario doesn't even need to have a PNP as a great majority of federal-selected immigrants land in Ontario, and I agree with that opinion. The fact that Ontario launched an Express Entry PNP with relatively easy criteria was unexpected.