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i'm applying outland -- cause my legal residence is still in the US -- but i'm living in canada while my application is being processed. (the canadian government knows this, and is using my nova scotia address to mail me stuff relating to my application, etc. i'm on a visitors' record right now.) so -- this is probably a very dumb question, but: so ... do i actually have to leave the country and then come back to "land"? or do i just send off my passport to get the visa stamp thing, and then they return it to me here in nova scotia? or what?

THANKS, y'all!
 
bonacker said:
i'm applying outland -- cause my legal residence is still in the US -- but i'm living in canada while my application is being processed. (the canadian government knows this, and is using my nova scotia address to mail me stuff relating to my application, etc. i'm on a visitors' record right now.) so -- this is probably a very dumb question, but: so ... do i actually have to leave the country and then come back to "land"? or do i just send off my passport to get the visa stamp thing, and then they return it to me here in nova scotia? or what?

THANKS, y'all!
You may be in Canada applying outland, but it's an outland application nonetheless, so you'll have to go to the closest border and "flagpole" as I learned it's called.
 
Yes you still have to "land" or flagpole as swede mentioned. Go to the closest border and exit then do a 'u-turn'. I think the visa/consulate office will be requesting for your passport to put the visa in and when you land, the officer at POE will cancel it.
 
Do two answers constitute a "y'all"? Only in Canada, I guess. ;D
 
Swede said:
You may be in Canada applying outland, but it's an outland application nonetheless, so you'll have to go to the closest border and "flagpole" as I learned it's called.

That's what I did. I was in Canada already and my application was outland.
 
I heard that outland people could still land at a local office. Is that not true?
 
Whilst you do have to "land" you do NOT have to leave the country in order to do so (flagpole). Once you receive your passport back with your visa you phone the call centre and ask them for an appointment at your local office.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english//resources/manuals/bulletins/2008/ob076.asp

With the introduction of the Canadian Experience Class (CEC), launched on September 17, 2008, amendments were made to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations to allow foreign nationals with valid temporary resident status in Canada to be granted permanent residence from within Canada. The changes make it easier for these temporary residents to acquire permanent residence since they no longer need to do so at a port of entry (POE). These regulatory changes apply to all foreign nationals in the Economic and Family classes who have valid temporary resident status in Canada (i.e., workers, students or visitors).

Foreign nationals who hold permanent resident visas in Canada continue to have the option of reporting to a POE in order to be granted permanent residence, if that is more convenient.

R71.1, has been created and states that:

A foreign national who is a member of a class referred to in paragraph 70(2)(a) or (b) and who is a temporary resident in Canada must, to become a permanent resident, present their permanent resident visa to an officer at a port of entry or at an office of the Department in Canada.

The above regulatory changes mean that clients in Canada with valid temporary resident status may:

Contact the Call Centre to request an appointment at a local CIC office, with their family members, if applicable, to be granted permanent resident status at that location; or leave Canada and obtain permanent residence upon re-entry to Canada at a POE.

The letter that accompany visas will state:

Please note that if you are already in Canada and have valid temporary resident status, you now have the option of obtaining your permanent resident status in Canada as opposed to leaving Canada and re-entering at a port of entry. Please contact CIC’s Call Centre at 1-888-242-2100 as soon as possible to arrange an appointment with the nearest Citizenship and Immigration office to your place of residence. (You cannot call this number if you are outside Canada.)

:D
 
I am glad you posted that Siouxie as I was afraid that bonacker would be grossly misinformed. If you had not posted it, I was about to. Everyone here should be aware of the amendment that allows foreign nationals to land at their local CIC office upon request for appointment. Honestly, if that wasn't the case then I would probably be applying inland as I live in Newfoundland and cannot just simply cross the border like most. However because of this amendment I will be applying outland.
 
It's still a relatively recent addition to the system allowing outside Canada applicants to land inland at local CIC, so not surprising not everyone has heard about it still.
 
It has been in legislation for almost 2 years..

Perhaps we could ask for the information to be posted as a "sticky" somewhere so that eveyone can be aware.

:)
 
I agree, that would be a very good idea as I believe this could help quite a few people already residing in Canada with legal status and living quite far from a border.
 
ColorMePanda said:
I agree, that would be a very good idea as I believe this could help quite a few people already residing in Canada with legal status and living quite far from a border.

True.

I considered that option when I was waiting for my passport to come back from the Visa Office, but in Vancouver I would have to wait for about a month for a landing at the CIC office. It was much easier for me to go to the border and land there. But not everybody live near a border.
 
I called for an appointment to land and was told I would have to wait a month or more, so I went to the US and turned aound and came back. It is possible to land within Canada but it's not always the quickest option.