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DavEd

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That is only partially true. The Spouse of a UK citizen is eligible after only 3 years of residence. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/61/section/6 clause 2. Also https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/61/schedule/1 Section 3.
Acknowledged... but the astronomical cost remains a factor....
Children applying for citizenship in the UK would pay $1700 here they pay only $100.... ...

Also Canada does not require you to show intent to reside, while the UK does...
 

DavEd

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Acknowledged... but the astronomical cost remains a factor....
Children applying for citizenship in the UK would pay $1700 here they pay only $100.... ...

Also Canada does not require you to show intent to reside, while the UK does...

Point being if Canada was to charge that much then IRCC would probably be able to hire more staff to speed processing....
 

zardoz

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Acknowledged... but the astronomical cost remains a factor....
Children applying for citizenship in the UK would pay $1700 here they pay only $100.... ...

Also Canada does not require you to show intent to reside, while the UK does...
Again, only partially true. Section 6(2) applicants do not have to show intent. I won't argue about the cost however. Worth every penny.
 

DavEd

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Again, only partially true. Section 6(2) applicants do not have to show intent. I won't argue about the cost however. Worth every penny.
Acknowledged...
Canada however does not impose that on ANY of its applicants
 

uncomfortable

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Acknowledged... but the astronomical cost remains a factor....
Children applying for citizenship in the UK would pay $1700 here they pay only $100.... ...

Also Canada does not require you to show intent to reside, while the UK does...
I never understood the "intent" part. Someone's intent can change 20 minutes after becoming citizen, it has always looked to me as a "lipstick on a pig" exercise.

Regarding the cost, if you consider that the cost of citizenship can be spread on A LIFETIME, I am not sure it is entirely relevant, although there seems to be evidence, at least in Canada, of people not applying for citizenship due to financial constraints. But if you have lived in Canada for long enough, it should be relatively easy to obtain a credit card with an appropriate limit and pay it off over time. It is a once-in-a-lifetime expense, and one that changes your life.

Personally, I prefer a $2400 fee and a human processing time rather than what happens in Canada: generally speaking a 12-month processing time is ridiculous.
I find the UK very pragmatic from this point of view: even the process for obtaining PCC in the UK is extremely smooth, efficient and expensive. There is a dedicated website, £45 for the standard service (10 working days), £80 for the premium service (2 working days), they even office to ship back by courtier for an extra fee. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.
 

DavEd

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I never understood the "intent" part. Someone's intent can change 20 minutes after becoming citizen, it has always looked to me as a "lipstick on a pig" exercise.

Regarding the cost, if you consider that the cost of citizenship can be spread on A LIFETIME, I am not sure it is entirely relevant, although there seems to be evidence, at least in Canada, of people not applying for citizenship due to financial constraints. But if you have lived in Canada for long enough, it should be relatively easy to obtain a credit card with an appropriate limit and pay it off over time. It is a once-in-a-lifetime expense, and one that changes your life.

Personally, I prefer a $2400 fee and a human processing time rather than what happens in Canada: generally speaking a 12-month processing time is ridiculous.
I find the UK very pragmatic from this point of view: even the process for obtaining PCC in the UK is extremely smooth, efficient and expensive. There is a dedicated website, £45 for the standard service (10 working days), £80 for the premium service (2 working days), they even office to ship back by courtier for an extra fee. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.
Acknowledged....intent is something that is so technical, but is however a cornerstone of English Law so it features in a lot of legislation....

Going onto a micro assessment of the cost... the current increase was brought in by the conservative government and many have argued that this increase was meant to stifle and limit the number of immigrants applying for citizenship.... remember before the increase it used to cost $100.

The ability to pay is always something that will vary from individual to individual... I will throw in a example....
A family of 3 would require approximately $1400 in Canada and $6500 in the UK
Personally you said you would prefer $2400 , unfortunately government service is never set up for that in most cases... Canada is more leaning toward a welfare state as such affordability of government service encourage greater access to services .....