I want to study and immigration to Canada

[scotchy007]

Hi,

@ rtkwar : yes most of repliers here are right, canada needs carpenters and plumbers and electricians and there is a high demand in Alberta for WELDERS so §I suggest you start immediately taking a short course in one of these professions and looking for work rather then studying because in canada they will ask you first : what can you do ? not what do you know, right ?? me personaly, I'm Algerian and I have a friend in Calgary working as a welder and he is earning more than 46$/hour !!! and he is single he is just 27 years old !!! he did every thing for his poor family in Algeria what a good luck right ?

Me too I was thinking these days in taking one year course study and it's true that it takes more than 25K/year !!! and the study visa not easy to be granted espicially for me bacuse my financial status is not enough I've to buy all what I own and lend some money from friends(If I was lucky, I'll find one friend accept to lend me some) so why should I take all this ?? and for what ?? for a Post Grad Work Permit ?? who guarantee that I'll find work easilly in my field that I've spent all my money to complete it and leaving everything for it ??

I'm searching for a good and recognized course in Welding and take some experience and then apply for FSW and in the same time searching on the net for jobs in Alberta because I already live in a petroleum city and I've worked before in oil and gas but I didn't gained the required experience by alberta's employers ! I'm saying this because I've spent more than six (06) months looking in sites like MONSTER and Workopolis and WOWJOBS and ... and always the same response from employers :"IT SEEMS YOU DON'T HAVE A SUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE" while according to my friend, he said that when he went to Montreal first he has a package of 8 months only as a welder and he found more then 2 jobs what a luck right ? and Welders are deffinetly in high demand there So I wish you good luck all of you.

JUST A LITTLE QUESTION FOR YOU FRIENDS : WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MY ENGLISH ?? CONSIDERING THAT I DIDN'T USE GOOGLE TO TRANSLATE I'VE JUST USED THE WORDS EXISTING IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW ?? PLEASE ENCOURAGE ME ABOUT HOW WILL BE MY SCORE IN IELTS OKEY ! GOOD LUCK

Your English isn't bad at all. You made a few mistakes, but I think we probably understood you just fine anyway.

 

[rtkwar]

As far as proving work experience in your own home country:
1. if you have worked for an employer, you can surely get them to give you a letter stating how long you have worked, what are your duties and how much you earn

2. If you own your own business, you can show a business license for the past number of years that you have been operating it

3. If nothing else, they will test you on the skills you say you have. I have heard of this happening to FSW applicants in India all the time. They take phone interviews where they ask you specific details about the work you claim to have experience in and 80% of the times, you go for a personal interview and have to actually show them knowledge of your trade.

so its not that easy to just "wing" it. CIC is not so stupid to shams anymore

Yes iknow CIC is not stupid
I found a place I can take the Carpentry course,
But is necessary to get the paper to prove I got on the course?
How many years of experience required?

Hi rtkwar,

1- I meant to study one these trades in your home country and try to gain some experience, and about study it in canada I really don't have an idea and in the main time I'm doing a lot of search and contacting some institutes(those which are offering practical courses in welding) across all of Canada, and if I find something good I will post a reply here okey ! so check here frequently.

2- the member (just_do_it) has replied with a clear answer and I deffinetly agree with him .

3- thank for correction and I've noted this error just after clicking on "Post" .

Best of luck.

Thanks for the reply and will stay in contact with you

 

[just_do_it]

Yes iknow CIC is not stupid
I found a place I can take the Carpentry course,
But is necessary to get the paper to prove I got on the course?
How many years of experience required?

How else would you prove that you have done a course in say "carpentry"? Your "word" is just not proof enough for CIC.

As a skilled trades worker, they understand that not everyone in other countries would have the option to go to school. Some learn by experience although formal education will make you stand out and is generally preferred.

In either case, if you get a formal education in a trade or not, you will require some work experience (a couple of years i assume but you would have to check for the occupation NOC code etc).

As far as taking trades courses in Canada, most of the trades courses require very little schooling and are mostly on the job apprenticeship training (which is already hard to find from what i hear). Generally, you would learn the basics in school, go work for some time, come back to school for another term or two and go back to work. This goes on for a few years (depending on the trade) before you are eligible to get your red seal certification status.

Also, not sure how apprenticeship training would factor into a visa student's scenario. If you are thinking of taking trade courses in Canada, better check with CIC and the school to ask about your options regarding apprenticeship and how it gits into your education plan and student visa requirements.

As far as getting the necessary skills and experience in your home country of egypt, there is no short cut. You will have to genuinly invest time and money into building up skill levels but also keep an eye on the profession demand. Carpenters may be in demand right now but no guarantees 3-4 years down the road, they will still be in demand. So its still a gamble.

but the good news is there are other comparable countries who have these professions in demand too (like Australia).

Why not do something in LAw instead since you already have a head start in that?

 

[rtkwar]

Yes iknow CIC is not stupid
I found a place I can take the Carpentry course,
But is necessary to get the paper to prove I got on the course?
How many years of experience required?

i speak about take course in egypt not in canada

How else would you prove that you have done a course in say "carpentry"? Your "word" is just not proof enough for CIC.

As a skilled trades worker, they understand that not everyone in other countries would have the option to go to school. Some learn by experience although formal education will make you stand out and is generally preferred.

In either case, if you get a formal education in a trade or not, you will require some work experience (a couple of years i assume but you would have to check for the occupation NOC code etc).

As far as taking trades courses in Canada, most of the trades courses require very little schooling and are mostly on the job apprenticeship training (which is already hard to find from what i hear). Generally, you would learn the basics in school, go work for some time, come back to school for another term or two and go back to work. This goes on for a few years (depending on the trade) before you are eligible to get your red seal certification status.

Also, not sure how apprenticeship training would factor into a visa student's scenario. If you are thinking of taking trade courses in Canada, better check with CIC and the school to ask about your options regarding apprenticeship and how it gits into your education plan and student visa requirements.

As far as getting the necessary skills and experience in your home country of egypt, there is no short cut. You will have to genuinly invest time and money into building up skill levels but also keep an eye on the profession demand. Carpenters may be in demand right now but no guarantees 3-4 years down the road, they will still be in demand. So its still a gamble.

but the good news is there are other comparable countries who have these professions in demand too (like Australia).

Why not do something in LAw instead since you already have a head start in that?

I'm going to take the course Carpentry in Egypt
And I will go to gain some experience
And maybe go to work as a carpenter for six months
And then ask an employer of giving me a paper to prove I worked for two years (Instead of six months)

Why not do something in LAw instead since you already have a head start in that?

Because the new government of Egypt after the revolution
Do not respect the law
The president's supporters surrounded the court and attack on judges
So there is no one respects the law these days

 

[Singhmanraj1995]

Sir I want to study in canada in engineering field and seeking to join a college near brampton can you please tell me????????????

Also tell me that doing Advanced diploma is better or not
and after doing diploma how can i join a degree program