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Lexisdee

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hi! I’m not sure how to start, basically my boyfriend and I plan to get married and I live in Texas with my children and he lives in Canada MB. Can I just move there with my children , get married then apply for inland? Or any advice would help.
 

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hi! I’m not sure how to start, basically my boyfriend and I plan to get married and I live in Texas with my children and he lives in Canada MB. Can I just move there with my children , get married then apply for inland? Or any advice would help.
You can come as a visitor (not move), get married and apply inland. You'll want to make sure it doesn't look like you're moving when you come here or it's possible to be refused entry (i.e. don't bring everything you own - only pack what a visitor would pack).

You'll need the father's written permission to take your children to Canada.
 

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Or, get married, carry on where you areand work and apply for outland spousal sponsorshipand you can each visit with each other as often as you want. Overall processing time maybe 6 - 8 months until you can move once and for all to Canada. You will still need the fathers permission to take his kids to Canada though.
 

Lexisdee

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Sep 6, 2019
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You can come as a visitor (not move), get married and apply inland. You'll want to make sure it doesn't look like you're moving when you come here or it's possible to be refused entry (i.e. don't bring everything you own - only pack what a visitor would pack).

You'll need the father's written permission to take your children to Canada.
So do I just visit , get married then return back to Texas? Also can I apply for inland if I live in Texas rather than with him
 

Lexisdee

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Sep 6, 2019
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Or, get married, carry on where you areand work and apply for outland spousal sponsorshipand you can each visit with each other as often as you want. Overall processing time maybe 6 - 8 months until you can move once and for all to Canada. You will still need the fathers permission to take his kids to Canada though.
If I have the fathers consent and I apply for Outland is that faster than inland?
 

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So do I just visit , get married then return back to Texas? Also can I apply for inland if I live in Texas rather than with him
You can marry and return to Texas if you want.

No. Inland = living in Canada with him.

If I have the fathers consent and I apply for Outland is that faster than inland?
Outland is generally faster than inland for Americans.

Also is it possible to do it all on my own or would I need a lawyer?
You can do it yourself. A lawyer is not needed.
 

Lexisdee

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You can marry and return to Texas if you want.

No. Inland = living in Canada with him.



Outland is generally faster than inland for Americans.



You can do it yourself. A lawyer is not needed.
Oh okay yeah I figured Outland was best if I don’t live there with him. I just want to do everything the correct way and not get in trouble. If I were to marry him am I allowed to stay or would I have to move back to where I’m from ? I wasn’t to sure what would happen after we get married if I can just stay there and apply for the paper work there although I wouldn’t be under any type of visa
 

Jnicole45

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Oh okay yeah I figured Outland was best if I don’t live there with him. I just want to do everything the correct way and not get in trouble. If I were to marry him am I allowed to stay or would I have to move back to where I’m from ? I wasn’t to sure what would happen after we get married if I can just stay there and apply for the paper work there although I wouldn’t be under any type of visa
You can stay for up to 6 months as a visitor, beyond that you would need to either be covered by implied status (if you apply inland and include an open work permit application, you're covered by implied status until a decision is made on the work permit) or apply for a visitor record to extend your stay in Canada. You can apply outland while staying in Canada if you want, you just wouldnt be able to apply for a work permit with it, so your new husband would have to be supporting you fully (unless of course you have money saved that you can use). Outland gives you the freedom to leave Canada without it affecting your application, Inland applicants aren't supposed to leave (if you're out of Canada for too long they will consider your application abandoned and cancel it). It's your choice which you choose to do.

Have you read through the application guide yet? That might give you more insight on the process and the requirements and such :)
 

Lexisdee

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You can stay for up to 6 months as a visitor, beyond that you would need to either be covered by implied status (if you apply inland and include an open work permit application, you're covered by implied status until a decision is made on the work permit) or apply for a visitor record to extend your stay in Canada. You can apply outland while staying in Canada if you want, you just wouldnt be able to apply for a work permit with it, so your new husband would have to be supporting you fully (unless of course you have money saved that you can use). Outland gives you the freedom to leave Canada without it affecting your application, Inland applicants aren't supposed to leave (if you're out of Canada for too long they will consider your application abandoned and cancel it). It's your choice which you choose to do.

Have you read through the application guide yet? That might give you more insight on the process and the requirements and such :)
I read key points on both and just know the basic requirements and such, but I was wondering could I just move my stuff all there or while waiting for an approval with my children (the fathers consent isn’t an issue) or will I only be allowed to visit, you know what I mean?
I know someone mentioned that I can’t bring all my belongings if I plan on staying I have to just visit.
My thought was I can go over to Canada with my children and belongings get married and stay there and then apply for the Outland? But I’m not so sure if that is okay
 

Jnicole45

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I read key points on both and just know the basic requirements and such, but I was wondering could I just move my stuff all there or while waiting for an approval with my children (the fathers consent isn’t an issue) or will I only be allowed to visit, you know what I mean?
I know someone mentioned that I can’t bring all my belongings if I plan on staying I have to just visit.
My thought was I can go over to Canada with my children and belongings get married and stay there and then apply for the Outland? But I’m not so sure if that is okay
That's what we're saying -- it's not okay.

To CBSA, moving your belongings demonstrates your intention to stay for good. Without permanent residence or a valid work permit, they will likely refuse you entry, because what you're asking is pretty much not allowed. To let you enter as a visitor, they have to be satisfied that you will leave when your time is up (at the end of the 6 months). You can tell them that you're coming to visit, get married, and start the sponsorship/permanent resident process, that's totally allowed, and they could potentially give you a visitor record to extend your stay right then and there, but even those have a time limit and they have to be satisfied that you will leave by the end of it if your status hasn't changed (either with a successful PR application or an open work permit). You have to prove you have ties to your home country (just having family back home doesnt count), and if you're taking all your belongings with you, that's a huge red flag to them. That says "I've packed up my whole life, I'm staying for good, I have no reason to return to the US," which is a solid reason to deny you entry.
 

Lexisdee

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That's what we're saying -- it's not okay.

To CBSA, moving your belongings demonstrates your intention to stay for good. Without permanent residence or a valid work permit, they will likely refuse you entry, because what you're asking is pretty much not allowed. To let you enter as a visitor, they have to be satisfied that you will leave when your time is up (at the end of the 6 months). You can tell them that you're coming to visit, get married, and start the sponsorship/permanent resident process, that's totally allowed, and they could potentially give you a visitor record to extend your stay right then and there, but even those have a time limit and they have to be satisfied that you will leave by the end of it if your status hasn't changed (either with a successful PR application or an open work permit). You have to prove you have ties to your home country (just having family back home doesnt count), and if you're taking all your belongings with you, that's a huge red flag to them. That says "I've packed up my whole life, I'm staying for good, I have no reason to return to the US," which is a solid reason to deny you entry.
Ahh okay that makes perfect sense then, thank you I feel your broken down to me and made it very much clearer for me. What website can I go to begin my Outland sponsor application?
Also I been looking at The PR application as well , but in your honest option for my situation is it best to go with the Outland or PR? I’m not sure how long PR takes but I was more thinking Outland is better for me and situation
 

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Ahh okay that makes perfect sense then, thank you I feel your broken down to me and made it very much clearer for me. What website can I go to begin my Outland sponsor application?
Also I been looking at The PR application as well , but in your honest option for my situation is it best to go with the Outland or PR? I’m not sure how long PR takes but I was more thinking Outland is better for me and situation
Outland is PR. It means youre applying for your PR while living outside canada. You cannot submit online. You have to go fill out the app print it and send it via mail
 

scylla

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So do I just visit , get married then return back to Texas? Also can I apply for inland if I live in Texas rather than with him
No - you cannot apply inland from outside of Canada. You must be physically in Canada to apply inland and must remain in Canada. If you want to be able to leave Canada, you need to apply outland.
 

Hurlabrick

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Start here for spousal sponsorship.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/spouse.asp

A lot of paperwork and documents. All MUST be on paper and mailed (no on line facility). You can do it all without a lawyer and most people do. You really need to at least start looking at tge checklist, the forms and the really rather good official CIC online help facility. You have a LOT of reading in front of you and there is no shortcut to this.