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I got refusal letter due to my criminal record. (INLAND) - HELP!

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truesmile said:
I'm betting a good part of the story is missing.
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truesmile said:
I'm betting a good part of the story is missing.
I don't think a part of the story is missing. In a previous thread he mentioned that he had an interview where the VO told him to submit the crim. rehab application, but he didn't file it or didn't understand that he had too.
 

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OK that makes more sense ... so sad though, to be so close but it slips away. Unfortunately, no chance for appeal with inland applications.

bartjones said:
I don't think a part of the story is missing. In a previous thread he mentioned that he had an interview where the VO told him to submit the crim. rehab application, but he didn't file it or didn't understand that he had too.
 

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bartjones said:
I don't think a part of the story is missing. In a previous thread he mentioned that he had an interview where the VO told him to submit the crim. rehab application, but he didn't file it or didn't understand that he had too.
Agreed - this makes a lot more sense now. The application was refused because the OP didn't follow instructions to complete the application process.
 

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SenoritaBella said:
OK that makes more sense ... so sad though, to be so close but it slips away. Unfortunately, no chance for appeal with inland applications.
Yes, a shame really. Of course he can start all over again and this time file the crim. rehab. app. with his PP application. Presumably he'll be successful.

The issue I'm not sure about and that he probably needs to be most worried about now is his status in Canada. Now that CIC has found him to be criminally inadmissible, how can he stay here while his second application is being processed? I think his chances of getting a TRP are slim.
 

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Good point...however, it's possible that he will not be deemed inadmissible in the eyes of CBSA, which are the `bouncers', that let you into (or remain in) Canada. CIC is merely the `bartender' that gets you all liquored up, once you get past the bouncers. LOL!

Either way, with a failed Inland application, chances are good that he'll have a problem with his interim status, until he's successful with a second application.
 

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Ponga said:
Good point...however, it's possible that he will not be deemed inadmissible in the eyes of CBSA, which are the `bouncers', that let you into (or remain in) Canada. CIC is merely the `bartender' that gets you all liquored up, once you get past the bouncers. LOL!

Either way, with a failed Inland application, chances are good that he'll have a problem with his interim status, until he's successful with a second application.
LOL, true enough. I wonder what the refusal letter said about his situation. I know when my wife was in a similar situation and was refused a TRP, CIC's refusal letter didn't ask her to leave but did say that the refusal letter was being copied to CBSA for "possible removal order proceedings".
 

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truesmile said:
I'm betting a good part of the story is missing.
There's no missing story.
 

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SenoritaBella said:
This is so strange. How come they just rejected him when it seems 5 years have passed since completion of sentence?

My friend's husband has a DUI from Korea, yet CIC sent the rehabilitation forms and gave them 60 days to submit it along with supporting documents. Not that CIC should have rejected them, but why is the process so inconsistent? ???
I have no idea.

My work permit was approved which meant I wasn't inadmissible.
But it was pending suddenly.
I have not received rehabilitation forms.
And when I inquire about my record to cic before applying,
the call center officer told me it wasn't inadmissible.
 

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The call centre is not very reliable, unless they actually send you and email with a link from CIC's website.
Someone said you had an interview and that you were told to submit the criminal rehabilitation forms - is this accurate? Did you submit the forms?

lsj2767 said:
I have no idea.

My work permit was approved which meant I wasn't inadmissible.
But it was pending suddenly.
I have not received rehabilitation forms.
And when I inquire about my record to cic before applying,
the call center officer told me it wasn't inadmissible.
 

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bartjones said:
I don't think a part of the story is missing. In a previous thread he mentioned that he had an interview where the VO told him to submit the crim. rehab application, but he didn't file it or didn't understand that he had too.
Thank you for your opinion.

When I had an interview, the interviewer told me she would wait and recommended me to apply for rehabilitation.
But 2 weeks later, DM was sent to even wrong address.
I waited for missing letter for 1 month and I thought it could be a mistake and positive decision because there was no criminal code and it was a summary conviction.
You guys would understand better about my record if I say there's no legal way to even watch adult videos in my country.
Now compare to Canada.
Sometimes you guys smell somebody's smoking pot in Canada.
But it's jail time in my country.

The letter says "Indictable offence" for adult videos, not child one.
I can't understand why it's indictable offence..
 
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I don't understand why they requested your passport if the decision was a negative one?
 

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SenoritaBella said:
The call centre is not very reliable, unless they actually send you and email with a link from CIC's website.
Someone said you had an interview and that you were told to submit the criminal rehabilitation forms - is this accurate? Did you submit the forms?
I did it yesterday because my DM letter was missing for a month.
The interviewer told me it would faster if I apply for rehabilitation than I wait for deemed date.
Now what..it will take longer.

Long story short, I couldn't do it anyway.

Basically I had only 2 weeks.
How could I prepare all of documents within 2 weeks?
Could you guys prepare criminal record, court document, RCMP fingerprint submitting, etc within 2 weeks?
No.
The interviewer gave me criminal record and court document that I had submitted.
But they were older than 90 days which were invalid for any application.
I had to prepare new ones.
 

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mikeymyke said:
I don't understand why they requested your passport if the decision was a negative one?
There was no passport requested because I applied for inland.
 

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lsj2767 said:
Thank you for your opinion.

When I had an interview, the interviewer told me she would wait and recommended me to apply for rehabilitation.
But 2 weeks later, DM was sent to even wrong address.
I waited for missing letter for 1 month and I thought it could be a mistake and positive decision because there was no criminal code and it was a summary conviction.
You guys would understand better about my record if I say there's no legal way to even watch adult videos in my country.
Now compare to Canada.
Sometimes you guys smell somebody's smoking pot in Canada.

But it's jail time in my country.

The letter says "Indictable offence" for adult videos, not child one.
I can't understand why it's indictable offence..
Use all the avenues that you can , send the rehab app ASAP , start putting together the new sponsorship application , and also I heard that you can file an appeal to the IAD ( immigration appeal division ) but I'm not sure about that one , so you should get opinions from real lawyers , not cheap consultants . Again , good luck my friend , don't let them put you apart from your loved one .