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I got 600 points in a sudden this morning-PGWP holder

mf4361

Champion Member
Apr 17, 2014
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Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18 Nov 2015
Nomination.....
12 Oct 2015
AOR Received.
25 Feb 2016
IELTS Request
Sent
Med's Request
28 Oct 2016
Med's Done....
14 Nov 2016
Passport Req..
27 Feb 2017
VISA ISSUED...
15 Mar 2017
LANDED..........
16 Mar 2017
fat_penguin said:
For EE purposes, a valid job offer is an offer that is backed up by a positive LMIA.
The questionnaire is asking "job offer". Not necessarily a valid one.

Later in the questionnaire it asks whether you have LMIA, that makes it valid.

Non-valid work, i.e. No LMIA, in Canada gets points for Canadian work experiences, but not the 600 points.
 

fl_pie

Hero Member
Jan 13, 2015
403
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Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
10-04-2015
Does PGWP qualify as a valid work permit? I'm doubtful because the next question mentions an employer named on the work permit, and I think that PGWP doesn't have anyone's name on it, so maybe they mean a LMO-based temporary work permit.
 

MONKUCHA

Hero Member
Oct 6, 2014
546
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Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
ALBERTA
NOC Code......
2253
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
8/17/15
Nomination.....
06/19/15
AOR Received.
11/16/15
Med's Request
05/02/16 UPFRONT
Med's Done....
05/02/16
Just another error in the best immigration system ever
 

AAA2133

Hero Member
Dec 17, 2014
647
67
Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-09-2015
Doc's Request.
NA
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
28-09-2015
IELTS Request
Upfront
File Transfer...
21-10-2015
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
24-09-2015
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
24-02-2016
VISA ISSUED...
10-03-2016
LANDED..........
11-03-2016
Papajohns said:
This guy will be banned for 5 years as there is no way to get additional 600 points juice for PGWP ppl . The reason why hes getting 600 points is there is a column there that says " do u hv a job offer in Canada ?" May be this guy without LMIA thinks about his current job . If you select yes over der u get 600 points thats wht i did and was rewarded with 600 points but after that wen i read the defination of job offer i changed it to No . So man just a suggestion change it to NO else wen u will get ITA they will ask u for ur Job offer and if u couldnt be able to provide one they will ban u for 5 years . :eek:
Not true. I selected yes (as I checked with CIC) for my job offer (PGWP) and said No to LMIA question and I'm not awarded 600 points ;)
 

dukhi

Champion Member
Jun 14, 2013
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mf4361 said:
The questionnaire is asking "job offer". Not necessarily a valid one.

Later in the questionnaire it asks whether you have LMIA, that makes it valid.

Non-valid work, i.e. No LMIA, in Canada gets points for Canadian work experiences, but not the 600 points.
i agree...if they meant job offers with LMIA why would they ask it explicitly again?? i have done the same but havent received any points
 

jasonsmart

Full Member
Feb 24, 2014
46
0
One thing to mention. This profile was created one month ago. Any back then I did not get 600 points.
Now in a sudden, the 600 points showed up with no change I made.
I sincerely consider it as an system error.
I don't know what to say guys.
But I'll keep posting regarding my profile.
 

fat_penguin

Star Member
Dec 5, 2014
71
3
mf4361 said:
The questionnaire is asking "job offer". Not necessarily a valid one.

Later in the questionnaire it asks whether you have LMIA, that makes it valid.

Non-valid work, i.e. No LMIA, in Canada gets points for Canadian work experiences, but not the 600 points.
Well, if you say "No" to "Does XX have a job offer in Canada?", you can still list your current employment later on in the "Work Experience" part... You just need to check "This is my current position" (ie. dont provide an end date)... That still gets you the Canadian Work Experience points (out of 80) and some more towards the "transferability" factors (out of 100).
 

Papajohns

Star Member
Feb 9, 2015
130
9
May be i m wrong then bt u knw thats wt happened with me and i dnt wnt anyone to loose their chances of getting permanent coz of this small error . So bro its better to talk to CIC helpline and tell him ur situation coz if u will once get ITA with this then it will be hard for u to give an excuse to VO ..
 

Conor9900

Hero Member
Jun 20, 2013
358
13
I would be careful if I were you, if CIC send you an ITA in the next draw based on your points and then find out you don't have an LMIA I would imagine they'll reject your application, even if the mistake is on their part. I have a job in Canada and answered "no" to the "do you have a job offer" question: having a job is not the same as having a job offer
 

fl_pie

Hero Member
Jan 13, 2015
403
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Category........
Job Offer........
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AOR Received.
10-04-2015
AAA2133 said:
Not true. I selected yes (as I checked with CIC) for my job offer (PGWP) and said No to LMIA question and I'm not awarded 600 points ;)
What did you answer to the "Does <candidate> have a valid work permit for the current job in Canada" question?
 

anu23

Newbie
Feb 12, 2015
1
0
My profile is very similar to JasonSmart, but no 600 points. My current CRS is 511. CEC and FSW met and have a full time permanent job in Canada with no LMIA as I'm on PGWP. I answered 'Yes' to the question,"Do you have a job offer?" and 'No' to LMIA. The only diff is my NOC code which is 2174. so i'm guessing it has to do with his NOC code as there might be a need for foreign workers.
 

cecandconfused

Star Member
Dec 17, 2014
88
2
This is a really important question. I vaguely remember we were told to select "No" for this question:

Does <Candidate> have a job offer in Canada?

I selected No even though I'm working full time permanent basis because I don't have positive LMIA (PGWP LMIA Exempt).
Should we answer YES to that question and select NO when it asks for LMIA? Or should we say NO to the whole thing.

Has anyone confirmed this with CIC reps?
 

fat_penguin

Star Member
Dec 5, 2014
71
3
cecandconfused said:
This is a really important question. I vaguely remember we were told to select "No" for this question:

Does <Candidate> have a job offer in Canada?

I selected No even though I'm working full time permanent basis because I don't have positive LMIA (PGWP LMIA Exempt).
Should we answer YES to that question and select NO when it asks for LMIA? Or should we say NO to the whole thing.

Has anyone confirmed this with CIC reps?
As I posted before, this is what the CIC's response was when someone else on this forum inquired about this exact issue:

"Candidates who are currently working in Canada but have not been offered a job that is supported by a Labour Market Impact Assessment should answer “No” to the question “Does [Candidate] have a job offer in Canada?” and they should create a Job Seeker account in Job Bank."

I am tempted to personally inquire again with the CIC, just don't know how to email/call them.