I do not want my wife to know about my dismissed charge.

[ksne292]

My wife is Canadian and I am American, we might be applying for outboard immigration. Is there anyway I could keep my sealed dismissed charge from my wife when applying?

What if I got her to fill out her portion of the forms and then when I receive my fbi rap sheet, I fill my portion of the forms out and mail it that same day?

 

[lonely_wife]

You can do this... but I would recommend that honesty is the best policy... hidding something could make it worse for you in the end...

 

[chelley]

try ordering the FBI and state paperwork and see if it even comes up... if it's closed and dismissed, it may not... (although it may still come up in a secondary background check, hard to say how deep they'll dig)

if it does, it's a tough decision... honesty is always the best policy... these things can come back to bite you in the butt. if they decide to call an interview and start questioning your wife about something she knows nothing about, i'm sure the VO office will be wondering what else in the relationship isn't genuine and forthcoming...

then if you only tell your wife if an interview is called, (or at some stage later in the process/relationship) you could put a blemish on the relationship that may be difficult to overcome...

i know, you probably didn't want personal advice, but such is life when you post it up on the net

good luck

 

[rjessome]

My wife is Canadian and I am American, we might be applying for outboard immigration. Is there anyway I could keep my sealed dismissed charge from my wife when applying?

What if I got her to fill out her portion of the forms and then when I receive my fbi rap sheet, I fill my portion of the forms out and mail it that same day?

All of the application forms and the FBI report must be sent together to CPC Mississauga in one package. You can't mail them separately, even if it is on the same day. And because of your dismissed charges, CIC will probably also ask for state police certificates at some point as well. Canada and the US do share this type of information for immigration purposes. IMHO, you might want to sit down and have a long talk with your wife.

 

[ksne292]

It will be better for me if I just stay in the U.S. then. No, need to stir things up like that. I like the U.S. just find, she will just have to visit her family.

 

[eyeoftheocean]

If I were you, I would talk to your wife, have you considered if she finds out you have not been honest with her, the consequences ? dosent your wife deserve to know the truth about her husband ? hope you dont get bitten ! you will end up with a nasty bite.

 

[ksne292]

Thanks for the advice I'd rather take my chances doing it this way. I have sealed the record, which means it can not be revealed. I have also searched over 100 background search companies and none of them show it.

 

[eyeoftheocean]

woooo . must be something interesting lol bet you were a spy for aliens from mars

 

[RobsLuv]

Then order your FBI and State clearances and find out what's there. Then decide what to do.

Also, rjessome is right that the FBI clearance is supposed to be mailed with the PR application - but it's also possible, if you don't have it back in time, to mail the PR application to CPC-Mississauga to have it assessed with a cover letter telling them that the FBI clearance is still pending. When your application gets to Buffalo, they will write to you and ask that you submit the FBI. They will give you a certain amount of time to submit it directly to them - they won't do any processing on your application in the meantime. Once they receive it, then they will finish their assessment and finalize your application.

Also, I don't agree with chelley's suggestion about the "what if" scenario that somehow they might decide to call an interview and start questioning your wife about something she knows nothing about . . . That won't happen because, if they call an interview, it will be you they interview - not your wife. However, if they refuse the application because they find you criminally inadmissible - for whatever reason, justified or not - she will be notified of the reason for refusal and that could be more detrimental to your relationship than just telling her yourself.

I don't know - certainly don't want to pass judgment . . . but I guess it really has to do with your motivation for keeping it from her, and you're the one who has to live with that. Lots of people do things they're not proud of and, most of the time, that type of history is better left in the past. But it's something else entirely when someone tries to hide something of a very serious nature in order to give themselves an advantage. I can only hope that's not what you're doing.

 

[chelley]

Really, they don't sometimes call both parties? I've heard people say that they compared questions they asked with the ones their other half was asked and made sure their answers matched? I had just assumed that both parties could possibly be questioned, but I've never been thru the process so it was just based on reading some reports!

Either way I would just say put yourself in her shoes... If it was her withholding such a secret how betrayed would you feel if you ever found out? Since it was in the past and it was dismissed, I think today the act of withholding might be just as damaging to your relationship than the act itself in her eyes... It very well may only changen who you were in her eyes, not who you are (which is who she fell in love with)... Lying to her could change who you ARE...

And devils advocate here, what if she has an equally sorted past and similar barriers to immigration... Will you just throw in the towel?

 

[nylalisa]

According to manuals, you are right Chelley, they do have the right to interview both parties, but this is usally in the case of suspected MOC. They will interview seperately to see how well they know each other and such. But most interviews, if an IO chooses to do one is done seperately.

 

[canadianwoman]

Also, I don't agree with chelley's suggestion about the "what if" scenario that somehow they might decide to call an interview and start questioning your wife about something she knows nothing about . . . That won't happen because, if they call an interview, it will be you they interview - not your wife. However, if they refuse the application because they find you criminally inadmissible - for whatever reason, justified or not - she will be notified of the reason for refusal and that could be more detrimental to your relationship than just telling her yourself.

Lots of times the visa officer interviews both the sponsor and the applicant; sometimes it's just a short interview by phone to check a few things with the sponsor, but if the sponsor is actually there at the embassy when the visa officer interviews the applicant, they will probably call the sponsor in to interview them too. Both my husband and I were interviewed, for example. So I suggest you don't have your wife in the same city while you are being interviewed! The visa officer is unlikely to phone her, though it is possible.

If you manage to hide the charge from your wife, but still admit it on the forms, there is a chance the visa officer will ask your wife about it; and if she doesn't know anything about it, this will make the VO suspect that the marriage is not genuine. You could try to counteract that by sending in more proof that your relationship is real than would otherwise be needed for a Canadian/American couple.

If nothing comes up about the charge on your FBI clearance, you could just not mention it on the forms. But then if CIC finds out about it, you will be found to have misrepresented yourself and will be banned from Canada for two years.

It's a tough call. Good luck.

 

[ocu_canadian]

Wow, is he serious?

 

[eyeoftheocean]

You say ' you like the US just fine' and your wife can just visit her family ! what about when she misses them so much and maybe decides she wants to be nearer to them ? dont you think your being a little selfish ?

I do hope your not controlling your wife !

 

[maua]

Thanks for the advice I'd rather take my chances doing it this way. I have sealed the record, which means it can not be revealed. I have also searched over 100 background search companies and none of them show it.

Wow! over 100 background search companies? That plus your willingness to forgo the immigration process altogether so that she never finds out. The lengths you are willing to go to bury your past is . . . creepy. Just sayin'