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Rusba

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Sep 11, 2012
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Dear XYZ,
Following an examination of your application.

Pursuant to Section 219 and 220 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, I am not
satisfied that you:

# would leave Canada at the end of your stay. In reaching this
decision, I considered several factors, including:

# purpose of visit

Other Reasons:
Not satisfied your intended course of study makes sense given your education & career path. Not satisfied your primary purpose in seeking entry to Canada is to study.



Is there anybody who has experienced the same situation?For the convenience I want add that the Visa Officer is satisfied about the financial side and home ties etc. Only reason he is not satisfied is stated above. I think this reason is abstract so it is difficult to make the officer understand.


please advice from seniors and experienced are wanted.

below my new purpose of visit statement.Any suggestions gladly welcome.

Dear Visa Officer,
with due respect, from the refusal letter it is evident that you are satisfied that I am financially solvent and I have genuine ties to my home then I am not understanding that what reasons made you thinking that my primary purpose of entry into Canada is not to study?
I want to reassure you that my primary purpose to entry into Canada is to study and only to study.
You said my intended course of study doesn't make 'sense' given my education and career path.
For your convenience I want to explain a little more. I am a businessman long before I did my MBA. I didn't have any formal education in business and the business we did before need not any business degree.But as I mentioned in the letter of explanation I am planning to do consultancy business after getting this Post graduate degree from Capilano University. In Bangladeshi perspective, jointly with my MBA degree this Canadian degree will create a great reputation for my firm, let alone the knowledge,connections I will have and opportunities that would be opened up after the Canadian experience.
In 2012 I completed my MBA degree which helped me to grow my self-confidence, leadership ability,intercommunication skill,create new business connection and opportunity.
Now come to my intended course of study.I have been interviewed by the Program Coordinator and I have satisfied her that I will contribute to my coursemates with my knowledge and diversified experience at the same time I will also learn from them.I have talked to my Program Coordinator she insures me that NABU program(my course of study) is designed to familiarize North American Business environment to foreigner who wants to do business with Canadian and American business firms.After finishing my course of study I will come back in my country and utilize the knowledge,experience and connections I gained from my Canadian life.
I don't understand what does this mean:"You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay."
Does this mean after finishing my study I will stay at Canada illegally? How come is it possible.I can't think of such a matter even in my dream.Have my records showed any such possibilities? I don't think so.
you said: "In reaching this
decision, I considered several factors, including:purpose of visit"
I don't know what other factors influenced you as you didn't mention it but for 'purpose of visit' I want to assure you repeatedly that study is my primary 'purpose of visit'.
Finally I think this is my failure that in my previous application I have not been able to make you understand that study is my primary purpose of visiting Canada.Actually this is an abstract matter for which I cannot provide any concrete evidence to prove.I don't know whether it is my age that confused you.
Any way please be insured that study is my primary purpose of visit and you have my word that there is no question at all for staying beyond the legible period. I cannot even think of it.
 

on-hold

Champion Member
Feb 6, 2010
1,120
131
I lived in Thailand for several years -- it's a middle-class country, basically, and yet people with stable lives and careers would sneak into Western countries to work illegally. They did it to save money, because they felt that they would have better opportunities, and to try and better themselves. Bangladesh is much, much poorer than Thailand. My father-in-law worked abroad for many years, and said that some of the workers in the hardest situations he saw were Bangladeshi.

My point is this -- if you write . . .

I don't understand what does this mean:"You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay."
Does this mean after finishing my study I will stay at Canada illegally? How come is it possible.I can't think of such a matter even in my dream.


. . . it's kind of silly. Are you telling the VO that you've grown up in Bangladesh and never heard, never dreamt, and can't imagine that someone would stay in a country illegally? Because that would be absurd, and people who are telling the truth don't say absurd things. Staying illegally is always a possibility, and it's one that everyone who lives in a poor country knows of.

Please note that I don't care! I hate the way people from poor countries are pinned down in one bit of the world, with no right to the rest. I'm just warning you that an over-the-top protestation of shock and wonder is unlikely to affect the VO's opinion. Explain why your family, community connection, wealth, and career make it unlikely that you would run off to Alberta to work in the chicken factory.
 

Rusba

Full Member
Sep 11, 2012
44
0
on-hold said:
I lived in Thailand for several years -- it's a middle-class country, basically, and yet people with stable lives and careers would sneak into Western countries to work illegally. They did it to save money, because they felt that they would have better opportunities, and to try and better themselves. Bangladesh is much, much poorer than Thailand. My father-in-law worked abroad for many years, and said that some of the workers in the hardest situations he saw were Bangladeshi.

My point is this -- if you write . . .

I don't understand what does this mean:"You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay."
Does this mean after finishing my study I will stay at Canada illegally? How come is it possible.I can't think of such a matter even in my dream.


. . . it's kind of silly. Are you telling the VO that you've grown up in Bangladesh and never heard, never dreamt, and can't imagine that someone would stay in a country illegally? Because that would be absurd, and people who are telling the truth don't say absurd things. Staying illegally is always a possibility, and it's one that everyone who lives in a poor country knows of.

Please note that I don't care! I hate the way people from poor countries are pinned down in one bit of the world, with no right to the rest. I'm just warning you that an over-the-top protestation of shock and wonder is unlikely to affect the VO's opinion. Explain why your family, community connection, wealth, and career make it unlikely that you would run off to Alberta to work in the chicken factory.
what about this


you said,"You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay."
If I am not wrong you meant after finishing my study may be I will stay at Canada illegally.It is very natural and may be true for you to think that for the applicant of a poor country like Bangladesh .But for me I can't think of such a matter even in my dream.[/i]
 

on-hold

Champion Member
Feb 6, 2010
1,120
131
The VO doesn't care about your dreams -- they have no evidence of them one way or the other. Since many people from Bangladesh, or Thailand, or Ecuador, do think about staying, the VO is going to require you to prove that there are reasons you don't want to.

Don't mention your dreams.
 

dbss

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,088
43
Rusba said:
Dear XYZ,
Following an examination of your application.

Pursuant to Section 219 and 220 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, I am not
satisfied that you:

# would leave Canada at the end of your stay. In reaching this
decision, I considered several factors, including:

# purpose of visit

Other Reasons:
Not satisfied your intended course of study makes sense given your education & career path. Not satisfied your primary purpose in seeking entry to Canada is to study.



Is there anybody who has experienced the same situation?For the convenience I want add that the Visa Officer is satisfied about the financial side and home ties etc. Only reason he is not satisfied is stated above. I think this reason is abstract so it is difficult to make the officer understand.


please advice from seniors and experienced are wanted.

below my new purpose of visit statement.Any suggestions gladly welcome.

Dear Visa Officer,
with due respect, from the refusal letter it is evident that you are satisfied that I am financially solvent and I have genuine ties to my home then I am not understanding that what reasons made you thinking that my primary purpose of entry into Canada is not to study?
I want to reassure you that my primary purpose to entry into Canada is to study and only to study.
You said my intended course of study doesn't make 'sense' given my education and career path.
For your convenience I want to explain a little more. I am a businessman long before I did my MBA. I didn't have any formal education in business and the business we did before need not any business degree.But as I mentioned in the letter of explanation I am planning to do consultancy business after getting this Post graduate degree from Capilano University. In Bangladeshi perspective, jointly with my MBA degree this Canadian degree will create a great reputation for my firm, let alone the knowledge,connections I will have and opportunities that would be opened up after the Canadian experience.
In 2012 I completed my MBA degree which helped me to grow my self-confidence, leadership ability,intercommunication skill,create new business connection and opportunity.
Now come to my intended course of study.I have been interviewed by the Program Coordinator and I have satisfied her that I will contribute to my coursemates with my knowledge and diversified experience at the same time I will also learn from them.I have talked to my Program Coordinator she insures me that NABU program(my course of study) is designed to familiarize North American Business environment to foreigner who wants to do business with Canadian and American business firms.After finishing my course of study I will come back in my country and utilize the knowledge,experience and connections I gained from my Canadian life.
I don't understand what does this mean:"You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay."
Does this mean after finishing my study I will stay at Canada illegally? How come is it possible.I can't think of such a matter even in my dream.Have my records showed any such possibilities? I don't think so.
you said: "In reaching this
decision, I considered several factors, including:purpose of visit"
I don't know what other factors influenced you as you didn't mention it but for 'purpose of visit' I want to assure you repeatedly that study is my primary 'purpose of visit'.
Finally I think this is my failure that in my previous application I have not been able to make you understand that study is my primary purpose of visiting Canada.Actually this is an abstract matter for which I cannot provide any concrete evidence to prove.I don't know whether it is my age that confused you.
Any way please be insured that study is my primary purpose of visit and you have my word that there is no question at all for staying beyond the legible period. I cannot even think of it.
you do realize that your letter gives out a negative tone and the VO is under no binding to give you the visa...you want to show yourself as mature and honest..