I am facing difficulties in identifying my NOC code, please help

[zwei36]

Hi, experts

I am applying express entry. Got my ITA March 1st. At this time, I am facing difficulties in identifying my NOC code. Wish you can give me a hand to identify my Noc Code.

I went to Georgian College for Mechanical Technician - Precision Skills course, it is a 2 years program plus co-op. And I have half year full-time co-op and half year part-time experience in machining environment as a cnc machinist in a company at Barrie Ontario.


Job 1,

From May 2015 to Feb 2016, I was full-time working in a tooling shop at Vaughan, our company is aim to make injection molds for automotive industrial. I was working in the machining department which my title is Machine operator. As what I find online about this job. I think I am doing most machinist jobs.I think I may match the code 7231 main duties, but not so sure.

Here below is my NOC O A B code : 7231 main duties approved by my supervisor.


Demonstrate a working knowledge of the theory and practical application of the machining procedures for the assigned 2D or 3D CNC machines in the department

Will be required to operate multiple machines to maintain and ensure maximum spindle up time

Ability to perform and assist with job set-ups in a safe manner

Ability to safety handle and manipulate mold blocks and components with overhead cranes and lifting devices as well as fork lift trucks

Return all tooling is to the proper location immediately following use.

Ensure that all damaged tooling is reported immediately

Ensure and verify that the finished results of any job are to the internal and external customer specifications, and report all problems or discrepancies to management

Perform all job functions in a safe and healthful manner, abide by all health, safety and environmental rules and regulations, promote safety in the workforce

Report all accidents/incidents and unsafe conditions/behavior

Adhere to applications quality systems and Support the total Tycos Management System(MAFACT,WCM,ISO-9001)

Adhere to and promote the Magna employee Charter; work within the rules, regulations and guidelines of the Tycos Employee Handbook and follow all Tycos instructions, policies and procedures

Participate in and support Continuous Improvement and WCM initiatives

Maintain work area in accordance with the principles of 5S and operate daily within these standards; Ensure work area is kept neat and organized

Perform other duties as required

---------------------END of code 7231-------------------------



Please give me a hand to identify my NOC code.



Job 2,


From Feb 2016 till current, I have been working in a different title which is called CMM TRAINEE (in the same company at Vaughan). I searched on line of key word CMM, I found code 2233. Please also help me out to identify this job`s Noc code as well.

Here is my main duties approved by my supervisor:::

Using PC-DMIS 2012 and PolyWorks inspection software, prepare data and measure tooling components on HK90 CMM machine and portable CMM arm as required to produce inspection reports for both internal and external customers

Participate in Quality department business plan activities

Prepare CMM programs from 3D CAD models for CMM inspections using PC-DMIS 2012

Perform CMM Inspections using HK HC-90 horizontal CMM machine and Potable CMM arm

Produce inspections reports for internal and external customers

Analyze and interpret results and participate in problem solving activities as required

Maintain a detailed filing system for CMM programs and results

Assist in scheduling activities to meet production demands

Assist with various production duties as required

Must be willing to work day and afternoon shifts

Required Skills ：

Mould Making and/or automotive manufacturing knowledge an asset

Proficient in Microsoft environment(word, excel, PowerPoint)

CMM experience in a PC-DMIS 2012 software environment

CMM experience in a PolyWorks software environment

Portable CMM arm experience

Strong English communication skills (Written/ Verbal)

Ability to work in a team environment

CAD software experience

---------------------END of code 2233-------------------------






Please give me a hand to identify my NOC codes of these two jobs.


Thanks sooooooooooooo much for your help.
:-[ :-[

 

[kryt0n]

If you already have the ITA why do you need to change them?

 

[zwei36]

If you already have the ITA why do you need to change them?

I am not going to change them, I am going to use both of these 2 codes. Just wanna double check my NOC code here before submit my application.

 

[zwei36]

If you already have the ITA why do you need to change them?

Also not very confidence on my employment letter about this main job duties section. Scared of give the wrong NOC CODE.

 

[kryt0n]

It's really hard for us to choose your NOCs.

Go over the noc code duties (ignore the education requirements) and carefully check each duty and try and match it to this list.

 

[zwei36]

It's really hard for us to choose your NOCs.

Go over the noc code duties (ignore the education requirements) and carefully check each duty and try and match it to this list.

Thank you, Kryt0n.
I think my duties will match most descriptions from the list, but that is depends on my personal understanding and acknowledgement, then I will probably understand what they are talking about. But for a CIC immigration officer who is not an expert in this file of study, how come he or she can give a final decision that my duties will mach the list or not?

Is there a standard rule for CIC Officer to identify NOC codes?

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As a reference, here is the duties on the NOC website for code 7231:

Main duties
Machinists perform some or all of the following duties:

Read and interpret engineering drawings, blueprints, charts and tables or study sample parts to determine machining operation to be performed, and plan best sequence of operations
Compute dimensions and tolerances and measure and lay out work pieces
Set up, operate and maintain a variety of machine tools including computer numerically controlled (CNC) tools to perform precision, non-repetitive machining operations such as sawing, turning, milling, boring, planing, drilling, precision grinding and other operations
Fit and assemble machined metal parts and subassemblies using hand and power tools
Verify dimensions of products for accuracy and conformance to specifications using precision measuring instruments
May set up and program machine tools for use by machining tool operators.
Machining and tooling inspectors perform some or all of the following duties:

Verify dimensions of machined parts or tooling using micrometers, verniers, callipers, height gauges, optical comparators, co-ordinate measuring machines (CMM) or other specialized measuring instruments
Maintain, repair and calibrate precision measuring instruments such as dial indicators, fixed gauges, height gauges and other measuring devices
Report deviations from specifications and tolerances to supervisor
Complete and maintain inspection reports.
Employment requirements
Completion of secondary school is usually required.
Completion of a four-year apprenticeship program
or
A combination of over four years of work experience in the trade and some college or industry courses in machining is usually required to be eligible for trade certification.
Trade certification for machinists is available, but voluntary, in all provinces and territories.
Trade certification for automotive machinists is available, but voluntary, in Ontario.
Trade certification for machinists (CNC) is available, but voluntary, in New Brunswick, Québec and Manitoba.
Several years of experience as a machinist, tool and die maker or machining tool operator may be required for machining and tooling inspectors.
Red Seal endorsement is also available to qualified machinists upon successful completion of the interprovincial Red Seal examination.
Additional information
Familiarity with exotic and composite materials may be required for machinists in aviation and other advanced manufacturing sectors.
The Red Seal endorsement allows for interprovincial mobility.
Progression to supervisory positions is possible with experience.



Many thanks.

 

[kryt0n]

OK, best thing I can suggest is grab each item on your letter from your boss and try and match it to one of the points below. IGNORE education requirements.

Machinists perform some or all of the following duties:

- Read and interpret engineering drawings, blueprints, charts and tables or study sample parts to determine machining operation to be performed, and plan best sequence of operations

Compute dimensions and tolerances and measure and lay out work pieces

Set up, operate and maintain a variety of machine tools including computer numerically controlled (CNC) tools to perform precision, non-repetitive machining operations such as sawing, turning, milling, boring, planing, drilling, precision grinding and other operations

Fit and assemble machined metal parts and subassemblies using hand and power tools

Verify dimensions of products for accuracy and conformance to specifications using precision measuring instruments

May set up and program machine tools for use by machining tool operators.

Machining and tooling inspectors perform some or all of the following duties:

Verify dimensions of machined parts or tooling using micrometers, verniers, callipers, height gauges, optical comparators, co-ordinate measuring machines (CMM) or other specialized measuring instruments

Maintain, repair and calibrate precision measuring instruments such as dial indicators, fixed gauges, height gauges and other measuring devices

Report deviations from specifications and tolerances to supervisor

Complete and maintain inspection reports.

 

[zwei36]

OK, best thing I can suggest is grab each item on your letter from your boss and try and match it to one of the points below. IGNORE education requirements.

Machinists perform some or all of the following duties:

- Read and interpret engineering drawings, blueprints, charts and tables or study sample parts to determine machining operation to be performed, and plan best sequence of operations

Compute dimensions and tolerances and measure and lay out work pieces

Set up, operate and maintain a variety of machine tools including computer numerically controlled (CNC) tools to perform precision, non-repetitive machining operations such as sawing, turning, milling, boring, planing, drilling, precision grinding and other operations

Fit and assemble machined metal parts and subassemblies using hand and power tools

Verify dimensions of products for accuracy and conformance to specifications using precision measuring instruments

May set up and program machine tools for use by machining tool operators.

Machining and tooling inspectors perform some or all of the following duties:

Verify dimensions of machined parts or tooling using micrometers, verniers, callipers, height gauges, optical comparators, co-ordinate measuring machines (CMM) or other specialized measuring instruments

Maintain, repair and calibrate precision measuring instruments such as dial indicators, fixed gauges, height gauges and other measuring devices

Report deviations from specifications and tolerances to supervisor

Complete and maintain inspection reports.

Do I need to cover 90% or 50%? Any percentage they are expecting to see from my employment letter?
Because not all the jobs will match all of those description from NOC website.

 

[kryt0n]

Aim for 70%

 

[zwei36]

Aim for 70%

Thank you Kryt0N !!!

 

[M4Farhan]

Hi, i am working as a machine operator (CNC Machinists) NOC 7231.Some of my responsibilities are similar like the responsibilities mentioned in the NOC 7231. My question is that i have an engineering degree and only have 6 months experience as a machine operator, am i eligible to apply for this NOC Code because in the employment requirement its mentioned that
Completion of a four-year apprenticeship program
or
A combination of over four years of work experience in the trade and some college or industry courses in machining is usually required to be eligible for trade certification.
Thanks

 

[jyothivattem]

hi experts,
hi, i am a tool and die maker from India. I completed four year diploma in tool and die making and have 10 year experience as tool and die maker and machinist. I want to immigrate to canada. I want to know
1) is it necessary to do ECA? if yes, from which evaluating board should i get it?
2) do i need certificate of qualification to enter into express entry pool or to work in canada? or my work experience would be sufficient?
3) what are the job prospects for my profession there?
please, someone answer my doubt..i am struck..
thank u