I am crying help me please

[saedmahraan]

dont cry man....bad things happen. even I am in a limbo with the canadian immigration deal...

but please dont cry...it should be all fine...

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN SIR

 

[rupeshhari]

How did you have 67 points when you sent your application to Sydney?

I sent my application before 28 November claiming high score in English as my study was in English


You know that when anyone wants his application to be processed he should claims high language proficiency


After that the time of crying occurs
thanks

The best thing to do (given your time) is to send the letter stating that your diploma is equivalent to a masters, but in all reality, i don't know if this works. The question would be if your country offers masters, why do they call it a postgraduate diploma. I am not saying, don't apply. Rather just apply and hope for the best. Also just make sure you are okay with the cost of doing all this (in case you get rejected). If i was in your shoes, i would probably still apply. BTW, my application is week on a different front and I still applied.

 

[saedmahraan]

How did you have 67 points when you sent your application to Sydney?

I sent my application before 28 November claiming high score in English as my study was in English


You know that when anyone wants his application to be processed he should claims high language proficiency


After that the time of crying occurs
thanks

The best thing to do (given your time) is to send the letter stating that your diploma is equivalent to a masters, but in all reality, i don't know if this works. The question would be if your country offers masters, why do they call it a postgraduate diploma. I am not saying, don't apply. Rather just apply and hope for the best. Also just make sure you are okay with the cost of doing all this (in case you get rejected). If i was in your shoes, i would probably still apply. BTW, my application is week on a different front and I still applied.

THANK YOU SIR
I is the best answer
of course I appreciate your apparent efforts in the forum

I depend on the op 6
I think it works with me
read this part again please and till me your opinion

Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential

 

[rupeshhari]

I depend on the op 6
I think it works with me
read this part again please and till me your opinion

Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential

That portion in OP6 is specifically talking about the doctor degree (the degree that actually makes you a doctor, not the specialization part). The doctor degree is confusing for many reason. In some countries, you do it as a first degree and in others, you do it as a second bachelors degree and in some others, you do it as a graduate degree. Also the length of the degrees makes in confusing. Imagine, in some countries, you do it as a first degree but take 6 years but in those same countries, you could do a bachelors and masters in Mathematics in 5 years, so classifying a medical degree can be confusing. This is why they explained it on OP6. That is my opinion anyway. Remember, i am no expert.

As for postgraduate diploma, in some countries, both a postgraduate diploma and masters are offered (i think in Canada too).

Anyway, you should apply but don't get disheartened if you do get rejected, just know that you can apply again.

Good luck.

 

[rupeshhari]

By the way, do they offer a masters degree in your specialization in your country?
Do they offer post grad dip and masters in the same specialization within the medical field in your country?

 

[saedmahraan]

By the way, do they offer a masters degree in your specialization in your country?
Do they offer post grad dip and masters in the same specialization within the medical field in your country?

Thank you sir

they offer both

but the diploma is just one year full time study without thesis
master 2 years with a thesis

any way i will enter ielts agiain if no good result achieved thus it will be a must to do my best to persuade the officer to reward me with 25 degree

thanks

 

[saedmahraan]

by the way
imagine sir that
my total study is 19 years

18 till the bachelor
and one year for the diploma

i think they may appreciate that

thanks again

 

[saedmahraan]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK THEY SHOULD (YES SHOULD) EARN ME 25
IN SPITE OF THAT
STILL CRYING

 

[rupeshhari]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK THEY SHOULD (YES SHOULD) EARN ME 25
IN SPITE OF THAT
STILL CRYING

ok

 

[rupeshhari]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK THEY SHOULD (YES SHOULD) EARN ME 25
IN SPITE OF THAT
STILL CRYING

Saedmaharaan, when you write the letter, don't base it on your logic, but rather on their logic. So don't contradict their rules but work along side their rules. If your logic for earning 25 points is based on 19 years of education, I think there is a greater chance of you being rejected. They are quite clear that if an undergraduate medical degree takes 18 years in total, one will still get only 20 points. So having 19 years with a postgraduate diploma in medicine is no different from having 15 years of education (say in business) and having a postgraduate diploma. If you think that 15 years of education (say in business) won't earn the applicant 25 points, the chances are neither would an applicant with medical degree and 19years of education. That is only my opinion and advice, not based on experience.

But working with their logic and showing that a PGDip is equivalent to masters by getting a statement from the ministry of education or something like that may work (may not will). Most importantly, don't state anything that is incorrect even if you believe in it. Because that would surely be marked as fraud.

 

[saedmahraan]

thanks again

ielts is the best choice
if failed

do you think a letter from the medical syndicate is sufficient
also I have certified my diploma from the ministry of foreign affairs
IN addition to a letter from my hospital


also do tou think if i inquire cic about that issue before sending my package will sound good or not


I seem hazy and anxious but
cet la vie

 

[rupeshhari]

IELTS is probably the best chance.

 

[PMM]

Hi

by the way
imagine sir that
my total study is 19 years

18 till the bachelor
and one year for the diploma

i think they may appreciate that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

 

[saedmahraan]

Hi

by the way
imagine sir that
my total study is 19 years

18 till the bachelor
and one year for the diploma

i think they may appreciate that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

thank you

in egypt the post gradute diploma is a full study for one year
do you think it will helo to add points especially after achiving it the minstry of health deals with us as specialists

thanks

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hi

by the way
imagine sir that
my total study is 19 years

18 till the bachelor
and one year for the diploma

i think they may appreciate that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

thank you

in egypt the post gradute diploma is a full study for one year
do you think it will helo to add points especially after achiving it the minstry of health deals with us as specialists

thanks

No, it is neither a second bachelor nor a Masters so no additional points other than 20. For example in Canada an Honours degree usually takes 5 years, while a non-honours bachelors takes 4, but you still only get 20 points. Same as teachers, they require a 4 year bachelors plus 1 years teacher training, it is still only a bachelors that is counted.


PMM