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ImABule

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2016
2,406
96
Ottawa, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2016
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
March 24, 2016 AOR2 April 15, 2016
File Transfer...
SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
February 02, 2016
Interview........
Queue- August 29, 2016 Waived- November 15, 2016
Passport Req..
November 17, 2016 DM- November 18, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
November 29, 2016
LANDED..........
December 19, 2016
UA2014 said:
It's quite sad. You'd think they have some sort of global QA program. I'm sure every visa office gets some level of fraudulent applications but I find it hard to believe 30 to 40 percent higher at a couple of offices.
They do.

They periodically audit and inspect each VO

I read all about the last ones conducted at SVO.

The VO is made up of a majority of locally engaged staff (LES) and only has 2 Canadian based officers responsible for the entire immigration section (which processes 10 countries)

The audit revealed that they had an LES who was making final determinations on visa applications, which violates the IRPA.

It's abhorrent at best the way things are done at Canadian visa offices.

The government preaches the importance of family reunification, yet my family hasn't been reunited and there's no end in sight.

These clowns denied my wife's study permit app on the basis of "family ties in Canada" and then have the audacity to question if we are family when forced to apply for PR well before we wanted to.

It's absolutely f*cking ridiculous.
 

AladdinsGirl

Hero Member
Dec 3, 2014
255
8
Cairo, Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
CAIRO
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-06-2016
AOR Received.
05-07-2016
File Transfer...
12-08-2016
Med's Done....
10-05-2016
Passport Req..
12-10-2016
ImABule said:
It's depressing to see the charts on approval rates and see just how incompetent SVO is
Where are the approval rates found?? Just curious about my the VO where my husband's app is going, which I assume has a high rate for interviews.
 

ImABule

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2016
2,406
96
Ottawa, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2016
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
March 24, 2016 AOR2 April 15, 2016
File Transfer...
SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
February 02, 2016
Interview........
Queue- August 29, 2016 Waived- November 15, 2016
Passport Req..
November 17, 2016 DM- November 18, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
November 29, 2016
LANDED..........
December 19, 2016
AladdinsGirl said:
Where are the approval rates found?? Just curious about my the VO where my husband's app is going, which I assume has a high rate for interviews.
Click the link to the book on the first page. Then click on the approval rate chapter
 

AladdinsGirl

Hero Member
Dec 3, 2014
255
8
Cairo, Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
CAIRO
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-06-2016
AOR Received.
05-07-2016
File Transfer...
12-08-2016
Med's Done....
10-05-2016
Passport Req..
12-10-2016
ImABule said:
Click the link to the book on the first page. Then click on the approval rate chapter
Haha thanks, I just started reading that chapter.....now gives me motivation to read the whole thing :)

Dang it, it's not showing for me, I have to buy the book, I guess I will see if I can find it elsewhere.
 

flx2015

Champion Member
Jul 27, 2015
2,298
77
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-Dec-2015
Doc's Request.
16-Sept-2016
Med's Request
16-Sept-2016
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
18-Oct-2016
AladdinsGirl said:
Haha thanks, I just started reading that chapter.....now gives me motivation to read the whole thing :)

Dang it, it's not showing for me, I have to buy the book, I guess I will see if I can find it elsewhere.
the ebook is only $20

ImABule said:
They do.

They periodically audit and inspect each VO

I read all about the last ones conducted at SVO.

The VO is made up of a majority of locally engaged staff (LES) and only has 2 Canadian based officers responsible for the entire immigration section (which processes 10 countries)

The audit revealed that they had an LES who was making final determinations on visa applications, which violates the IRPA.

It's abhorrent at best the way things are done at Canadian visa offices.

The government preaches the importance of family reunification, yet my family hasn't been reunited and there's no end in sight.

These clowns denied my wife's study permit app on the basis of "family ties in Canada" and then have the audacity to question if we are family when forced to apply for PR well before we wanted to.

It's absolutely f*cking ridiculous.
what are LES? aren't they also canadian?
 

UA2014

Star Member
May 6, 2016
85
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Kyiv
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-03-2016
Doc's Request.
None yet
File Transfer...
13-05-2016
Med's Done....
25-02-2016 Upfront
Interview........
28-09-2016
Locally Engaged Staff are citizens of another country employed by the Canadian government to work in the VO. All the people I dealt with at Kyiv VO (I think, there's no way to be certain without asking) were Ukrainians. They all spoke English with a Ukrainian accent. I have seen jobs posted for Ukrainian nationals to work at Kyiv VO.
 

ImABule

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2016
2,406
96
Ottawa, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2016
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
March 24, 2016 AOR2 April 15, 2016
File Transfer...
SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
February 02, 2016
Interview........
Queue- August 29, 2016 Waived- November 15, 2016
Passport Req..
November 17, 2016 DM- November 18, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
November 29, 2016
LANDED..........
December 19, 2016
flx2015 said:
the ebook is only $20

what are LES? aren't they also canadian?
Locally engaged staff. At SVO they are Singaporean. It is a cost saving tactic used by Canadian visa offices globally. They are not allowed to have the title of visa officer and they are not allowed to make final determinations on applications.

The audit at SVO revealed that both were happening there.
 

flx2015

Champion Member
Jul 27, 2015
2,298
77
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-Dec-2015
Doc's Request.
16-Sept-2016
Med's Request
16-Sept-2016
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
18-Oct-2016
interesting. i wasn't aware of this.

i think work ethic varies across different cultures, so i wonder how much of an influence that has on approval rates. are singaporean visa officers more likely to be rigid compared to canadian visa officers? i think their approval rate speaks for itself. :-\
 

ImABule

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2016
2,406
96
Ottawa, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2016
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
March 24, 2016 AOR2 April 15, 2016
File Transfer...
SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
February 02, 2016
Interview........
Queue- August 29, 2016 Waived- November 15, 2016
Passport Req..
November 17, 2016 DM- November 18, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
November 29, 2016
LANDED..........
December 19, 2016
flx2015 said:
interesting. i wasn't aware of this.

i think work ethic varies across different cultures, so i wonder how much of an influence that has on approval rates. are singaporean visa officers more likely to be rigid compared to canadian visa officers? i think their approval rate speaks for itself. :-\
Several south east Asian countries are very well known for having high levels of marriage fraud. Bangladesh, Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia especially. We get the short end of the stick by having to go through SVO. Jakarta only processes temporary visas and not PR apps. There are very few Indonesians who emigrate from Indonesia and so the volume of applicants for PR is so low that for them to process them in Jakarta it wouldn't be worth it. There's only about 12,000 Indonesians in Canada right now and that's across all immigration statuses not just PR's. There is something like 7 or 8 times more Malay's in Canada and they have about a quarter of the population Indonesia does.

That being said, I wish Manila processed Indonesian applicants opposed to Singapore.
 

BethanyM

Hero Member
May 20, 2016
283
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-05-2016
Doc's Request.
30-09-2016
AOR Received.
03-06-2016
IELTS Request
SA 19-07-2016
File Transfer...
22-07-2016
Med's Request
Med Status: Passed
Med's Done....
April 2016
Interview........
26-09-2016
Passport Req..
WAITING SOON PLEASE
VISA ISSUED...
SOON I HOPE
LANDED..........
ASAP
ImABule said:
They do.

They periodically audit and inspect each VO

I read all about the last ones conducted at SVO.

The VO is made up of a majority of locally engaged staff (LES) and only has 2 Canadian based officers responsible for the entire immigration section (which processes 10 countries)

The audit revealed that they had an LES who was making final determinations on visa applications, which violates the IRPA.

It's abhorrent at best the way things are done at Canadian visa offices.

The government preaches the importance of family reunification, yet my family hasn't been reunited and there's no end in sight.

These clowns denied my wife's study permit app on the basis of "family ties in Canada" and then have the audacity to question if we are family when forced to apply for PR well before we wanted to.

It's absolutely f*cking ridiculous.
That is the very frustrating situation they put couples in - no other type of Visa will be granted once you are married because you have a spouse in Canada so they suspect you will overstay. Yet, when you attempt to bring that same spouse to Canada as a Permanent Resident now they evaluate in a different manner and say that spousal relationship is not 'real' enough for them. In doing this they condemn these relationships. The remaining choices after that point are an appeal which will take more than a year, or the person in Canada moves outside of Canada to live with the other spouse until the Canadian government decides to recognize their relationship in their next application attempt further down the road.
Most people are not able to leave Canada for a few years in order to build a longer history of living together as a married couple, due to family or job concerns.
It's a very difficult path when it gets to that point.

I'mABule I wish you all the best and hope you and your family
and me and mine
both have success at the interview and receive positive results to our applications.
 

ImABule

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2016
2,406
96
Ottawa, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2016
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
March 24, 2016 AOR2 April 15, 2016
File Transfer...
SA April 5, 2016
Med's Done....
February 02, 2016
Interview........
Queue- August 29, 2016 Waived- November 15, 2016
Passport Req..
November 17, 2016 DM- November 18, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
November 29, 2016
LANDED..........
December 19, 2016
BethanyM said:
That is the very frustrating situation they put couples in - no other type of Visa will be granted once you are married because you have a spouse in Canada so they suspect you will overstay. Yet, when you attempt to bring that same spouse to Canada as a Permanent Resident now they evaluate in a different manner and say that spousal relationship is not 'real' enough for them. In doing this they condemn these relationships. The remaining choices after that point are an appeal which will take more than a year, or the person in Canada moves outside of Canada to live with the other spouse until the Canadian government decides to recognize their relationship in their next application attempt further down the road.
Most people are not able to leave Canada for a few years in order to build a longer history of living together as a married couple, due to family or job concerns.
It's a very difficult path when it gets to that point.

I'mABule I wish you all the best and hope you and your family
and me and mine
both have success at the interview and receive positive results to our applications.
My friend also married an Indonesian and sent basically the same study permit app for the same exact course my wife registered in and the app was approved and his wife has been here for over a year now... Go figure..

I wish you the best too.