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How common is Residency Questionnaire and can IRCC access all the entry and exits especially from Visitor Visa days

andyeap

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Hi Everyone,
My citizenship application is relatively straightforward. However, I have used around 80 days of physical presence from my Visitor Visa days.

My immigration journey has been:
Got AoR -> Enter Canada as Visitor for around 160 days -> Flagpole to become PR -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> No trips for 2.5 years -> Apply for Citizenship

My Passport stamp clearly show exits stamps from other countries around the dates of my visits. I am also confident that I meet the 1095 days and have a buffer of 15 days on application.

I wanted to know how common is the Residency Questionnaire? Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?

@dpenabill - It has been amazing to read your insights on related issues. Would love to get your thoughts?

Thanks :)
 

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Hi Everyone,
My citizenship application is relatively straightforward. However, I have used around 80 days of physical presence from my Visitor Visa days.

My immigration journey has been:
Got AoR -> Enter Canada as Visitor for around 160 days -> Flagpole to become PR -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> No trips for 2.5 years -> Apply for Citizenship

My Passport stamp clearly show exits stamps from other countries around the dates of my visits. I am also confident that I meet the 1095 days and have a buffer of 15 days on application.

I wanted to know how common is the Residency Questionnaire? Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?

@dpenabill - It has been amazing to read your insights on related issues. Would love to get your thoughts?

Thanks :)
Depends on your circumstances i.e. how convinced the processing officer is of the evidence you have provided which corroborates the dates in your application. There was no missing information / or anomalies in my application to warrant a RQ / RQ Lite but I still got it. Took almost 2 years to get resolved - unfortunately coinciding with the pandemic, making it a perfect storm. Some other people I know personally who faced similar scrutiny had a few things in common with me - single applicants (families processed earlier), history of travel during eligibility period to and from the Middle East. Also, self employed - means there were no regular salary slips which could be verified via a phone call to a corporate HQ.
They can always access CBSA records - just may not be on tap. I am certain they are requested and checked against your claims in the application. Remember, the onus is on you to prove your physical presence in Canada. All are guilty unless proven innocent.
 
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dpenabill

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Hi Everyone,
My citizenship application is relatively straightforward. However, I have used around 80 days of physical presence from my Visitor Visa days.

My immigration journey has been:
Got AoR -> Enter Canada as Visitor for around 160 days -> Flagpole to become PR -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> Around 60 days overseas trip -> Back for 90 days -> No trips for 2.5 years -> Apply for Citizenship

My Passport stamp clearly show exits stamps from other countries around the dates of my visits. I am also confident that I meet the 1095 days and have a buffer of 15 days on application.

I wanted to know how common is the Residency Questionnaire? Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?
It appears RQ is NOT common these days. We still see occasional reports but those almost always involve applicants in situations where there are rather obvious reasons why a total stranger bureaucrat would question the applicant's accounting of days in Canada.

I have not seen it confirmed, but there are many indications that where, in the past, there might be seen reason-to-question-residency that would trigger the issuance of RQ, now IRCC is increasingly screening background or referring the applicant to CBSA for investigation BEFORE sending applicants RQ-related requests. That is, again without confirmation, it appears that IRCC is not issuing RQ, at least not the full-blown version (CIT 0171), unless and until it has already researched the applicant's case and that results in overt concerns about the applicant's accounting of days.

So the qualified applicant who was careful to be complete and accurate (within reason), and who applied with a decent margin over the minimum, and for whom there are no outstanding red flags, for such applicants there is very, very little reason to worry about getting RQ.

Meanwhile, less intrusive, and usually less disruptive (including as to the processing time) versions of RQ-related requests have been increasingly employed. Note the response by @akbardxb referencing RQ-lite for example. Even the experience reported by @akbardxb, and in particular the impact on the processing timeline, is not all that common these days. Happens, still. And it is not always clear who or why. And how it goes, especially in terms of impact on the timeline, varies considerably. But the vast majority of qualified applicants generally need not worry, and even if there is this or that specific RQ-related request (such as a travel record from another country), for most this should not result in an excessive delay in processing (note that processing times for the last two years are off the charts and a mess, covid-related factors, and poor bureaucratic adaption in response, the primary culprit; so it is very difficult to discern how this or that somewhat minor non-routine processing has affected processing times in the last couple years).

Visitor Visa Days:

Assuming you had an actual "visa" granting visitor status, that makes a big difference. Where a number of applicants have run into problems is relying on days in Canada as a visitor without a formal record of their visitor status. This typically is about visa-exempt travelers waived into Canada without being issued a Visitor's Record. If this causes a problem, that typically shows up in the initial screening of the application for completeness, where IRCC cannot confirm the grant of visitor status in the client's GCMS records, resulting in the application being returned to the applicant, not processed, unless the applicant applied with enough of a margin it does not matter if those visitor days are discounted.

Even with a formal visa, consistent with my general view that it is better to apply with a solid, safe margin over the minimum, the safe approach is to wait long enough it does not matter if days in Canada as a visitor are given credit. As long as the individual is present in Canada with visitor status, those days count. But the problem is sufficiently documenting the concurrence of presence and status, sufficient to meet the burden of proof. The safe approach is to rely on those days for additional buffer over the minimum, meaning to wait to apply when the presence requirement is met even if those days were not counted. But this the more cautious approach, with insurance so to say.

Beyond that, the nature and character of the individual's time in Canada, including ties in Canada, can make it easier for IRCC to credit such days without question, for some, but in other circumstances mean IRCC might have questions or outright concerns which, in turn, could invite increased screening.


Some Background:

Even when CIC (before name change to IRCC) was most aggressively imposing RQ, the vast majority of qualified applicants were not at much risk of it. Even then, RQ was generally triggered based on rational "reason-to-question-residency" (or "presence") criteria (also called, which is probably still the term in use by IRCC, "triage criteria"). For a time the criteria were overly broad, sweeping large numbers of applicants into RQ processing for whom there really was no significant reason-to-question-residency.

The biggest change which resulted in far less RQ being imposed was the implementation of an actual physical presence requirement, instead of the previous residency requirement; this took effect in June 2015. For applications made since June 2015, it is just arithmetic, just counting days in Canada over the relevant period of time, the "eligibility period," which has varied some but has remained five years (a 3/5 requirement) since October 2017. This simplifies evaluating the applicant's information, which in conjunction with increased reliability of CBSA travel history records, and expanded GCMS records tracking not just clients but information facilitating cross-referencing employers, addresses, telephone numbers, and other information, this has taken a lot of the inference/guess work out of assessing the physical presence requirement.


How Common or Frequent is Full-Blown RQ Currently:

We have seen rather few anecdotal reports of full blown RQ in the last few years, and this is basically the only source of information we currently have about how common RQ is.

It does not appear to be all that common these days. Certainly way less common than it was several years ago. Back in 2012, for example, there was a period of months during which one in four applicants were hit with full blown RQ. Back then we had ATI responses detailing those statistics. Back then it was clear that the use of RQ was overly aggressive and overreaching, which is why a number of people (me included) sought in-depth information through the ATI process.

The relative infrequency of reports about RQ in the last several years, in conjunction with the implementation of less intrusive RQ-related requests for more specific evidence, has more or less indicated few applicants will encounter this non-routine procedure, and that there is typically quite obvious reasons for RQ when it happens.

The risk factors themselves probably have not changed much. Such as inconsistencies, discrepancies, and incongruities in the information in an application and information that IRCC otherwise has. You allude to perhaps the most common one: discrepancy between what an applicant reports in their actual physical presence calculation versus information IRCC accesses from CBSA travel history.

More regarding travel history and physical presence assessment to follow.
 
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Depends on your circumstances i.e. how convinced the processing officer is of the evidence you have provided which corroborates the dates in your application. There was no missing information / or anomalies in my application to warrant a RQ / RQ Lite but I still got it. Took almost 2 years to get resolved - unfortunately coinciding with the pandemic, making it a perfect storm. Some other people I know personally who faced similar scrutiny had a few things in common with me - single applicants (families processed earlier), history of travel during eligibility period to and from the Middle East. Also, self employed - means there were no regular salary slips which could be verified via a phone call to a corporate HQ.
They can always access CBSA records - just may not be on tap. I am certain they are requested and checked against your claims in the application. Remember, the onus is on you to prove your physical presence in Canada. All are guilty unless proven innocent.
Thanks for sharing your experience. This is really useful. Hope they don't ask too many questions.
 

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Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?
CBSA Travel History and IRCC Assessment of Physical Presence:
"Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?"​

Overall: in addition to typically being very accurate, government travel history records are increasingly complete. For entry into Canada dates, IRCC can access CBSA travel history entry records and typically, almost always, completely verify a PR's dates of entry. HOWEVER, these records are not guaranteed to be complete. There are, in particular, numerous ways individuals can avoid or manipulate the capture of border entry data. The Canadian border is notoriously porous, a virtual sieve some say. So IRCC does NOT rely on those records to be complete. Accurate, so far as the information included, but NOT necessarily complete.

So IRCC will look to CBSA entry history to corroborate the applicant's accounting of entry dates, to verify the dates, to identify omissions, or to identify discrepancies, inconsistencies, or incongruities. IRCC still relies on the individual to provide this information. And, after all, the individual is the ONE BEST SOURCE of this information, since the individual is the one and only person in the whole world who was FOR SURE there each and every time they entered, and exited, Canada.

To a very significant extent, IRCC looks at other information, including CBSA travel history, to help it determine if it can rely on the ONE BEST SOURCE, the applicant. If the other information, including CBSA travel history, indicates reason to doubt the reliability of the applicant's information, that's where RQ and investigations and the applicant's burden of proof all come into play. If the best source of information is determined to not be reliable, that tends to be a problem.

Travel History Dates versus Days In-between:

In the meantime, travel history itself does NOT prove physical presence. There are many, many more days in-between known dates of entry and exit that need to count in order to meet the presence requirement. For the vast majority of qualified applicants, IRCC readily makes the inference the applicant was IN Canada the day after a date of arrival and the following days until the next reported or known date of exit. That is, the days between a known date of entry and the next reported date of exit are counted as days IN Canada.

This is based on an inference, an inference depending on the assumption there were no other exits and entries between the known date of entry and the next reported date of exit. It is an inference the individual stayed and therefor was in Canada all those in-between days.

The online actual physical presence calculator is designed and calibrated to employ this inference. It automatically counts days between a date of entry and the next reported date of exit as days in Canada.

Applicants generally take this inference for granted. For good reason. Absent mistake or fraud, they were in fact in Canada all those days between a date of entry and the next reported date of exit.

IRCC does not take this inference for granted. In addition to travel history applicants are required to provide detailed address and employment/activity history, even though there is no "residency" requirement, and no employment requirements. This is just the surface level of information analyzed for consistency with the proposition the applicant was in Canada all those days between a date of entry and the next reported date of exit. That is, IRCC cross-references and considers a range of information about the applicant to discern whether it should rely on the applicant's account of presence.

Leading, again, to one of the key factors: the completeness and accuracy of the applicant's travel history. If IRCC finds reason to question the applicant's travel history, to have concern it is not complete or is not accurate, like discrepancies between dates the applicant submits versus dates IRCC finds in CBSA records, the inference of presence between dates of entry and next reported date of exit is weakened and in some cases perhaps thrown out altogether.

So, the question is whether, for example, CBSA information supports the applicant's information, and if not, that's when IRCC (and ultimately a Citizenship Judge) can weigh the evidence well beyond travel history, to ascertain whether the applicant has met the burden of proving presence in Canada IN-BETWEEN dates of entry and next reported exit.

Proving where a person actually was on every given day can be a challenge.


Longer Observations About Travel History Data:

IRCC has some access to CBSA travel history data. A client's travel history is not data captured or maintained by IRCC. For many years now CBSA has been capturing most (and increasingly approaching nearly all) client entry dates. This has long been accessible to CIC/IRCC via for-cause investigatory referrals, but for many years CIC/IRCC needed the applicant's consent otherwise, and the application form included a box for applicants to give their consent. Not giving consent probably triggered cause enough to justify an investigatory referral to obtain the information anyway. Changes in law governing interagency sharing of personal information have, I believe, made it easier for IRCC to routinely access CBSA travel history as to client entry dates. Current application form does not request applicant's consent for IRCC to obtain CBSA travel history.

The capture and storage of exit data is more complicated; and thus so is access to it. IRCC does NOT have this information. It is not clear to what extent IRCC has access to what exit data CBSA does capture AND maintain. It is not clear what exit data CBSA actually captures as personal information. What we know for sure is that interagency record capturing and data storage has resulted in this information being captured (in one way or another) and there being significantly more access to information about a client's exits from Canada. So, if and when the procedures and protocols for accessing exit information are employed, IRCC should be able to identify and verify most, perhaps nearly all (meaning it will be all for many persons), dates of exit. It is likely this is NOT routine. It is likely a for-cause investigatory search and data retrieval is involved. "For-cause" means the agency seeking access to the information needs to specify acceptable reasons for needing it. This would be done on a case-by-case basis.

Note, for example, many PRs use private land transportation to travel to the U.S., including doing this quite often even if their intended destination is another country altogether. Contrary to some claims, CBSA does NOT capture or maintain records of those exits. So, for example, there is no way for IRCC to access those records directly. And, when a client makes the ATIP request to CBSA for travel history records, ordinarily those records (as to exits via land border to U.S.) will NOT be included. Because CBSA does not have those, so CBSA has no duty or obligation to disclose them, having no duty to disclose records they do not maintain.

But, Canada has a data-sharing program with the U.S. So, CBSA can access U.S. records of entries into the U.S. from Canada, and thereby identify a Canadian's dates of exit from Canada to the U.S. And this information can be shared with IRCC (probably requires a for-cause request/referral, but I am not sure about this). There is no indication this is routinely done. Which is not to say it is not commonly done. And it is quite likely done for a significant number of applicants, those marked for elevated screening.

Basically, within a high degree of completeness and accuracy, IF and WHEN IRCC sees cause to more thoroughly screen the applicant's travel history information (as provided by the applicant in the presence calculation), IRCC can typically corroborate and confirm accurate and complete accounting of travel history, or conversely identify omissions, discrepancies, and inconsistencies. If what IRCC finds confirms what the applicant reported, good. If, in contrast, what IRCC finds indicates cause to question what the applicant reported, not good.

There is NO indication that IRCC will use its research and investigatory access to information to document the applicant met the presence requirement. That's the applicant's job. Indeed, there have been cases in which inconsistencies in information about an applicant, indicating the applicant was likely PRESENT in Canada during a period of time the applicant reported they were outside Canada, has been part of the reasoning for concluding the applicant's account could not be relied on and thus they failed to meet the burden of proof, application denied, and upheld by the Federal Court.

That is, again, the question is whether, for example, CBSA information supports the applicant's information, and if not, that's when IRCC (and ultimately a Citizenship Judge) can weigh the evidence well beyond travel history, to ascertain whether the applicant has met the burden of proving presence in Canada IN-BETWEEN dates of entry and next reported exit.
 

andyeap

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It appears RQ is NOT common these days. We still see occasional reports but those almost always involve applicants in situations where there are rather obvious reasons why a total stranger bureaucrat would question the applicant's accounting of days in Canada.

I have not seen it confirmed, but there are many indications that where, in the past, there might be seen reason-to-question-residency that would trigger the issuance of RQ, now IRCC is increasingly screening background or referring the applicant to CBSA for investigation BEFORE sending applicants RQ-related requests. That is, again without confirmation, it appears that IRCC is not issuing RQ, at least not the full-blown version (CIT 0171), unless and until it has already researched the applicant's case and that results in overt concerns about the applicant's accounting of days.

So the qualified applicant who was careful to be complete and accurate (within reason), and who applied with a decent margin over the minimum, and for whom there are no outstanding red flags, for such applicants there is very, very little reason to worry about getting RQ.

Meanwhile, less intrusive, and usually less disruptive (including as to the processing time) versions of RQ-related requests have been increasingly employed. Note the response by @akbardxb referencing RQ-lite for example. Even the experience reported by @akbardxb, and in particular the impact on the processing timeline, is not all that common these days. Happens, still. And it is not always clear who or why. And how it goes, especially in terms of impact on the timeline, varies considerably. But the vast majority of qualified applicants generally need not worry, and even if there is this or that specific RQ-related request (such as a travel record from another country), for most this should not result in an excessive delay in processing (note that processing times for the last two years are off the charts and a mess, covid-related factors, and poor bureaucratic adaption in response, the primary culprit; so it is very difficult to discern how this or that somewhat minor non-routine processing has affected processing times in the last couple years).

Visitor Visa Days:

Assuming you had an actual "visa" granting visitor status, that makes a big difference. Where a number of applicants have run into problems is relying on days in Canada as a visitor without a formal record of their visitor status. This typically is about visa-exempt travelers waived into Canada without being issued a Visitor's Record. If this causes a problem, that typically shows up in the initial screening of the application for completeness, where IRCC cannot confirm the grant of visitor status in the client's GCMS records, resulting in the application being returned to the applicant, not processed, unless the applicant applied with enough of a margin it does not matter if those visitor days are discounted.

Even with a formal visa, consistent with my general view that it is better to apply with a solid, safe margin over the minimum, the safe approach is to wait long enough it does not matter if days in Canada as a visitor are given credit. As long as the individual is present in Canada with visitor status, those days count. But the problem is sufficiently documenting the concurrence of presence and status, sufficient to meet the burden of proof. The safe approach is to rely on those days for additional buffer over the minimum, meaning to wait to apply when the presence requirement is met even if those days were not counted. But this the more cautious approach, with insurance so to say.

Beyond that, the nature and character of the individual's time in Canada, including ties in Canada, can make it easier for IRCC to credit such days without question, for some, but in other circumstances mean IRCC might have questions or outright concerns which, in turn, could invite increased screening.


Some Background:

Even when CIC (before name change to IRCC) was most aggressively imposing RQ, the vast majority of qualified applicants were not at much risk of it. Even then, RQ was generally triggered based on rational "reason-to-question-residency" (or "presence") criteria (also called, which is probably still the term in use by IRCC, "triage criteria"). For a time the criteria were overly broad, sweeping large numbers of applicants into RQ processing for whom there really was no significant reason-to-question-residency.

The biggest change which resulted in far less RQ being imposed was the implementation of an actual physical presence requirement, instead of the previous residency requirement; this took effect in June 2015. For applications made since June 2015, it is just arithmetic, just counting days in Canada over the relevant period of time, the "eligibility period," which has varied some but has remained five years (a 3/5 requirement) since October 2017. This simplifies evaluating the applicant's information, which in conjunction with increased reliability of CBSA travel history records, and expanded GCMS records tracking not just clients but information facilitating cross-referencing employers, addresses, telephone numbers, and other information, this has taken a lot of the inference/guess work out of assessing the physical presence requirement.


How Common or Frequent is Full-Blown RQ Currently:

We have seen rather few anecdotal reports of full blown RQ in the last few years, and this is basically the only source of information we currently have about how common RQ is.

It does not appear to be all that common these days. Certainly way less common than it was several years ago. Back in 2012, for example, there was a period of months during which one in four applicants were hit with full blown RQ. Back then we had ATI responses detailing those statistics. Back then it was clear that the use of RQ was overly aggressive and overreaching, which is why a number of people (me included) sought in-depth information through the ATI process.

The relative infrequency of reports about RQ in the last several years, in conjunction with the implementation of less intrusive RQ-related requests for more specific evidence, has more or less indicated few applicants will encounter this non-routine procedure, and that there is typically quite obvious reasons for RQ when it happens.

The risk factors themselves probably have not changed much. Such as inconsistencies, discrepancies, and incongruities in the information in an application and information that IRCC otherwise has. You allude to perhaps the most common one: discrepancy between what an applicant reports in their actual physical presence calculation versus information IRCC accesses from CBSA travel history.

More regarding travel history and physical presence assessment to follow.
Thanks for the amazing and informative answer. This is really useful.

Does IRCC have access to CBSA travel history, even from the Visitor Visa days? If yes, then they should be able to easily verify my dates.

I used a reputed law firm to file my application and they said that using the credit for Visitor visa days is very normal and recommended me to not wait the extra 80 days. Hope they are right :)

I applied in March by paper application as family and both me and my spouse have currently at Background passed and Test passed. Other things are in progress. My spouse had an FP request which cleared before the background pass. I did take us 2.5 months to get AoR, when other applications were getting AoR in a 10 days, so it is likely that they did more verifications before the AoR.

I love Canada and it's been a long journey. Hope to soon become Canadian!
 
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CBSA Travel History and IRCC Assessment of Physical Presence:
"Does IRCC have access to the entry and exit dates to Canada through their system (which would make it easy for them to verify)?"​

Overall: in addition to typically being very accurate, government travel history records are increasingly complete. For entry into Canada dates, IRCC can access CBSA travel history entry records and typically, almost always, completely verify a PR's dates of entry. HOWEVER, these records are not guaranteed to be complete. There are, in particular, numerous ways individuals can avoid or manipulate the capture of border entry data. The Canadian border is notoriously porous, a virtual sieve some say. So IRCC does NOT rely on those records to be complete. Accurate, so far as the information included, but NOT necessarily complete.

So IRCC will look to CBSA entry history to corroborate the applicant's accounting of entry dates, to verify the dates, to identify omissions, or to identify discrepancies, inconsistencies, or incongruities. IRCC still relies on the individual to provide this information. And, after all, the individual is the ONE BEST SOURCE of this information, since the individual is the one and only person in the whole world who was FOR SURE there each and every time they entered, and exited, Canada.

To a very significant extent, IRCC looks at other information, including CBSA travel history, to help it determine if it can rely on the ONE BEST SOURCE, the applicant. If the other information, including CBSA travel history, indicates reason to doubt the reliability of the applicant's information, that's where RQ and investigations and the applicant's burden of proof all come into play. If the best source of information is determined to not be reliable, that tends to be a problem.

<--->

Longer Observations About Travel History Data:

IRCC has some access to CBSA travel history data. A client's travel history is not data captured or maintained by IRCC. For many years now CBSA has been capturing most (and increasingly approaching nearly all) client entry dates. This has long been accessible to CIC/IRCC via for-cause investigatory referrals, but for many years CIC/IRCC needed the applicant's consent otherwise, and the application form included a box for applicants to give their consent. Not giving consent probably triggered cause enough to justify an investigatory referral to obtain the information anyway. Changes in law governing interagency sharing of personal information have, I believe, made it easier for IRCC to routinely access CBSA travel history as to client entry dates. Current application form does not request applicant's consent for IRCC to obtain CBSA travel history.

The capture and storage of exit data is more complicated; and thus so is access to it. IRCC does NOT have this information. It is not clear to what extent IRCC has access to what exit data CBSA does capture AND maintain. It is not clear what exit data CBSA actually captures as personal information. What we know for sure is that interagency record capturing and data storage has resulted in this information being captured (in one way or another) and there being significantly more access to information about a client's exits from Canada. So, if and when the procedures and protocols for accessing exit information are employed, IRCC should be able to identify and verify most, perhaps nearly all (meaning it will be all for many persons), dates of exit. It is likely this is NOT routine. It is likely a for-cause investigatory search and data retrieval is involved. "For-cause" means the agency seeking access to the information needs to specify acceptable reasons for needing it. This would be done on a case-by-case basis.

Note, for example, many PRs use private land transportation to travel to the U.S., including doing this quite often even if their intended destination is another country altogether. Contrary to some claims, CBSA does NOT capture or maintain records of those exits. So, for example, there is no way for IRCC to access those records directly. And, when a client makes the ATIP request to CBSA for travel history records, ordinarily those records (as to exits via land border to U.S.) will NOT be included. Because CBSA does not have those, so CBSA has no duty or obligation to disclose them, having no duty to disclose records they do not maintain.

But, Canada has a data-sharing program with the U.S. So, CBSA can access U.S. records of entries into the U.S. from Canada, and thereby identify a Canadian's dates of exit from Canada to the U.S. And this information can be shared with IRCC (probably requires a for-cause request/referral, but I am not sure about this). There is no indication this is routinely done. Which is not to say it is not commonly done. And it is quite likely done for a significant number of applicants, those marked for elevated screening.

Basically, within a high degree of completeness and accuracy, IF and WHEN IRCC sees cause to more thoroughly screen the applicant's travel history information (as provided by the applicant in the presence calculation), IRCC can typically corroborate and confirm accurate and complete accounting of travel history, or conversely identify omissions, discrepancies, and inconsistencies. If what IRCC finds confirms what the applicant reported, good. If, in contrast, what IRCC finds indicates cause to question what the applicant reported, not good.

There is NO indication that IRCC will use its research and investigatory access to information to document the applicant met the presence requirement. That's the applicant's job. Indeed, there have been cases in which inconsistencies in information about an applicant, indicating the applicant was likely PRESENT in Canada during a period of time the applicant reported they were outside Canada, has been part of the reasoning for concluding the applicant's account could not be relied on and thus they failed to meet the burden of proof, application denied, and upheld by the Federal Court.

That is, again, the question is whether, for example, CBSA information supports the applicant's information, and if not, that's when IRCC (and ultimately a Citizenship Judge) can weigh the evidence well beyond travel history, to ascertain whether the applicant has met the burden of proving presence in Canada IN-BETWEEN dates of entry and next reported exit.
CBSA now collects exit information for everyone exiting Canada see link below:

The CBSA began collecting traveller exit information on foreign nationals (excluding American citizens) entering the United States from Canada on June 30, 2013. As of July 11, 2019, the CBSA collects exit information on all travellers (including Canadian and American citizens) in the land mode and in the commercial air mode as of June 25, 2020. Exit data may also be requested through the Travel History Report.
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/pia-efvp/atip-aiprp/thr-rav-eng.html
 

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Referencing link for CBSA "Travel History Report" webpage:
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/pia-efvp/atip-aiprp/thr-rav-eng.html

CBSA now collects exit information for everyone exiting Canada see link below:
Sort of. Noting that even that webpage states "Exit information is limited . . . "

As I previously noted, compared to the routine capture and storage of entry records: The capture and storage of exit data is more complicated; and thus so is access to it.

. . . and that webpage is otherwise out-of-date in some respects (including references to items in previous versions of the citizenship application no longer applicable), vague or ambiguous in certain respects (says CBSA "collects" data that CBSA only collects in the sense that some of what it "collects" is information the U.S. actually collects and shares with CBSA, and in the sense that flight manifest information collected by airlines is provided to CBSA), and is either misleading or erroneous in regards to its caution about citizenship applicants requesting travel history from CBSA. In regards to the latter, the webpage states that requesting travel history personally "will cause a significant delay to your application process" even though there is no indication that is actually true. (Under previous versions of the citizenship application, an applicant's failure to give consent to IRCC to access CBSA records would risk delaying the process, but personally requesting the records from CBSA would not and still does not have any effect on citizenship application processing.)

With limited exceptions, CBSA only directly collects entry data which populates CBSA's "Traveller Processing -- Personal Information Bank." How CBSA incorporates indirectly obtained information (such as information shared by U.S. authorities) and derivative information (such as that taken from flight manifests) into the Personal Information Bank (PIB) it maintains for "Entry / Exit traveller processing" (find extensive description here: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/pia-efvp/atip-aiprp/infosource-eng.html ) is, again, more complicated.

Which in part is why the webpage states "Exit information is limited . . . " which has to do with mode of access as well as mode of collection and storage. More complicated.

But how IRCC uses the CBSA travel history information is not so complicated. It comes down to is this: the CBSA travel history is NOT used to help the applicant make their case. It is only used to find omissions or errors in the applicant's reported travel history, to see if there is information in the CBSA travel history that invites concerns about what the applicant has reported.

TRAVEL HISTORY BASICS; A Refresher:

The primary and key source of travel history for processing an adult grant citizenship application is what the applicant reports in the physical presence calculation. Minor mistakes that do not result in the total # of days credit falling short of 1095 do not, not generally, cause a problem. Nonetheless, applicants should:
-- make a concerted effort to completely and accurately report all exits and entries, and​
-- wait to apply with a good margin over the minimum (forum consensus seems to be about ten days; my admittedly more cautious approach suggests at least an extra month)​

IRCC cross-references various information, including address and employment history, GCMS records, and potentially other sources (including internet open sources, like LinkedIn) to assess the applicant's travel history, looking for information that is inconsistent, incongruous, or otherwise at odds with the applicant's travel history; that is, it makes cross-checks to see if there appears to be any reason-to-question the applicant's reported travel history and presence calculation.

IRCC also has access to CBSA travel history records for an individual, and it appears it always or at least usually cross-references an applicant's reported travel history with CBSA entry records; IRCC can also do this in regard to exit records (which are limited in some respects, and it is not certain to what extent this is done). Here too, this is cross-referencing such information with what the applicant reports, again looking for inconsistencies or incongruities, or conflicts otherwise with the applicant's information; here again this is to see if there appears to be any reason-to-question the applicant's reported travel history and presence calculation.

If and when IRCC has done the cross-checks and there is no apparent reason-to-question the applicant's reported travel history, there is basically an inference that the applicant was IN Canada the day after a reported entry and continuing to be in Canada the days following that up to the next reported date of exit.

In contrast, if and when the cross-checks indicate a reason-to-question the applicant's reported travel history, that's when proof of presence in Canada is requested and required for days after the date of entry, days between dates of arrival and next reported date of exit.

Again, what this comes down to is this: the CBSA travel history is NOT used to help the applicant make their case. It is only used to find omissions or errors in the applicant's reported travel history.
 
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Can you advise me please? I'm applying for a visitor visa; how can I answer the question of 'Have you used another name in the past?' in IRCC when I changed my last name many years ago?
 
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Seym

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Can you advise me please? I'm applying for a visitor visa; how can I answer the question of 'Have you used another name in the past?' in IRCC when I changed my last name many years ago?
This is a citizenship section, not the one where you should ask visa related questions.
But in all cases, "have you used another name in the past" is a yes or no question. In your case, it's obviously "yes". So put that and then list the older name.
 

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This is a citizenship section, not the one where you should ask visa related questions.
But in all cases, "have you used another name in the past" is a yes or no question. In your case, it's obviously "yes". So put that and then list the older name.
Thank you.