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How come I got Reference Number and rejection in same email?

adam912

Star Member
Oct 11, 2009
84
1
Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
Cairo Egypt
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17 th
I got an Email from CIC yesterday and i soon as i opened it, i saw a reference Number Bxxxxxxxxx
for a second i thought i passed until i read the rest of the email and realized that although the duties mentioned matched our NOC code, it is insufficient.

I checked E-cas and the file number is working, how is that possible? and how come they didn't send my file back?
Does this mean the file is still under consideration and should i send a new one referencing the file number or what?
Thank you all in advance! :)
 

rocky272727

VIP Member
May 21, 2009
3,121
168
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
adam912 said:
I got an Email from CIC yesterday and i soon as i opened it, i saw a reference Number Bxxxxxxxxx
for a second i thought i passed until i read the rest of the email and realized that although the duties mentioned matched our NOC code, it is insufficient.

I checked E-cas and the file number is working, how is that possible? and how come they didn't send my file back?
Does this mean the file is still under consideration and should i send a new one referencing the file number or what?
Thank you all in advance! :)
When you check the status online what does it say
 

adam912

Star Member
Oct 11, 2009
84
1
Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
Cairo Egypt
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17 th
We received your application for permanent residence on December 9, 2009.
 

charmeuse

Hero Member
Jan 15, 2009
249
8
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 10, 2008
AOR Received.
September 3, 2008
Med's Request
December 12, 2009
Med's Done....
December 24, 2009
Interview........
November 9, 2009
Passport Req..
December 12, 2009. Recd. by CHC on Jan 15, 2010.
VISA ISSUED...
February 4, 2010. E-cas status changed on 9 Feb, recd on 10 Feb.
LANDED..........
Smooth landing on June 26, 2010.
How does the mail conclude? Do they mention refusal/rejection or anything on what step to take now?
 

adam912

Star Member
Oct 11, 2009
84
1
Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
Cairo Egypt
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17 th
they said
You have indicated that you have work experience in an occupation with the following NOC code: 1111- Terminal Accountant, Cost Accountant, Junior Accountant. Although this NOC code corresponds to the occupations specified in the instructions identified by the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism and published in the Canada Gazette on 28 November 2008, the main duties that you have listed do not indicate that you performed a substantial number of the main duties of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC, including all of the essential duties. As such, I am not satisfied that your experience corresponds to NOC 1111- Financial Auditors and Accountants.

For the reasons outlined above, your application does not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing.
I know its a refusal but why send me a reference number? Its just confusing me!
 

kulikuli

Star Member
Oct 9, 2009
103
3
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Passport Req..
09-04-2010
VISA ISSUED...
19-04-2010
LANDED..........
Not decided
It's difficult to respond to your queries without seeing the content of the letter.

Could you post the content of this letter? It will help us understand what they are communicating and who knows .... somebody may be able to help you with one suggestion or the other
Kuli
 

charmeuse

Hero Member
Jan 15, 2009
249
8
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 10, 2008
AOR Received.
September 3, 2008
Med's Request
December 12, 2009
Med's Done....
December 24, 2009
Interview........
November 9, 2009
Passport Req..
December 12, 2009. Recd. by CHC on Jan 15, 2010.
VISA ISSUED...
February 4, 2010. E-cas status changed on 9 Feb, recd on 10 Feb.
LANDED..........
Smooth landing on June 26, 2010.
Sorry to say so, adam, but it's a clear refusal. I believe that they put a file number for all files they receive. That's the norm.

You can elaborate on your job responsibilities (assuming you have enough relevant experience) and re-apply. They're very strict these days and it's your duty to convince them that you have the required experience in the preferred NOC. If you can post the description you gave in the application, maybe other successful applicants in the same NOC can help you.
 

adam912

Star Member
Oct 11, 2009
84
1
Egypt
Category........
Visa Office......
Cairo Egypt
NOC Code......
1111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17 th
Thank you Charmeuse for your answer :)
Yes we are planning to add more details to the job duties.

unfortunately i can not reveal exactly what we wrote cause it might reveal where my husband works!
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Every stumble is a source of lesson.
They are strict now, apply again immediately after making addition to your duties.