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aspirant256

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Great, hopefully you covered that with all the documents. If you did have an amazing job which made you loads of money, why do you need to go back to school? The fact that the VO listed personal assets and financial status means he is concerned about these; either being too little or too much for a bona fide student.

You'll only get your answer from the gcms notes.

I still don't think you need a lawyer, seeing as this is your first refusal. It's like taking an AK47 to a wrestling fight, IMO.
I need masters degree to progress in my career, from a discipline engineer to an engineering or project manager. The fact that I won't stop at this masters degree and would get another masters degree in engineering.

I don't know how to address to these concerns. I only added the bank statement and not the payslips and tax calculations, is it what is missing?
 

wonderbly

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Did you delete your post where you mentioned you were attending a school in BC? Can't find it anymore as I wanted to reference it.
Your Bachelors was in discipline? Not sure what a discipline engineer is, sorry. Did you apply for a Masters in Discipline Engineering?

Also, did you list your previous employment and the payment (payslips could have helped with this). Was there a recent big deposit in your savings?
 

aspirant256

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Did you delete your post where you mentioned you were attending a school in BC? Can't find it anymore as I wanted to reference it.
Your Bachelors was in discipline? Not sure what a discipline engineer is, sorry. Did you apply for a Masters in Discipline Engineering?

Also, did you list your previous employment and the payment (payslips could have helped with this). Was there a recent big deposit in your savings?
discipline engineers are like pipining, civil, electrical engineers. I am electronic engineer. Masters in management. Big deposits from my overseas personal bank account since I moved back to home country after losing job.
 

Maybe tommorow

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I'm very sorry for your refusal OP. remember that plenty of people get approved on later attempts.

You'll need to order your notes so you can understand why you were refused, it's just a guessing game until then.
 

wonderbly

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Oh ok, I got you now.

I think your application had some red flags:
A Switch from Engineering is unusual but not impossible, especially as you advance in your career. Did you explain the need for this in your SOP?

The big deposits as well is suspicious. You could have clarified this by adding your payslips to show income. Did you include proof of the money being transferred from your overseas account into your local?

I think you will have a good chance if you properly explain in your SOP and provide documents to support your case.

Wait for your gcms notes to guide you. Resign to the fact that you will not be able to meet January intake, but it's better to get it right this time.
 

aspirant256

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I'm very sorry for your refusal OP. remember that plenty of people get approved on later attempts.

You'll need to order your notes so you can understand why you were refused, it's just a guessing game until then.
Will be ordered today, but I need to understand how I need to make my case stronger.
 

Maybe tommorow

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Will be ordered today, but I need to understand how I need to make my case stronger.
First you need to see the reasons for refusal. And you'll have to wait for the notes to know that. These reasons on your refusal notes are generic and since there are many of them, we can only guess the reel reasons
 

aspirant256

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Oh ok, I got you now.

I think your application had some red flags:
A Switch from Engineering is unusual but not impossible, especially as you advance in your career. Did you explain the need for this in your SOP?

The big deposits as well is suspicious. You could have clarified this by adding your payslips to show income. Did you include proof of the money being transferred from your overseas account into your local?

I think you will have a good chance if you properly explain in your SOP and provide documents to support your case.

Wait for your gcms notes to guide you. Resign to the fact that you will not be able to meet January intake, but it's better to get it right this time.
Its not a switch from engineering. Engineering management requires management skills, knowledge or finance and accounting. Its a natural progression in career. Many people go for MBA after engineering to climb to management level positions.

I will add payslips and tax calculations on my next application. Bank statement shows where the money can from, personal account to personal account.

I am trying to understand what I need to write in SOP, its something very tricky. Problem is successful candidates are don't share what documents they included and what exactly they wrote in their SOP.

Yes, I will miss the January intake, will have to target the next one.
 

Alwayssuccessful!

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Its not a switch from engineering. Engineering management requires management skills, knowledge or finance and accounting. Its a natural progression in career. Many people go for MBA after engineering to climb to management level positions.

I will add payslips and tax calculations on my next application. Bank statement shows where the money can from, personal account to personal account.

I am trying to understand what I need to write in SOP, its something very tricky. Problem is successful candidates are don't share what documents they included and what exactly they wrote in their SOP.

Yes, I will miss the January intake, will have to target the next one.
I would advise you to retain a lawyer to help you fight this rejection, if you think you have done all that you needed to and provided enough documents to warrant approval. Writing a strong SOP after first refusal, from my experience with applicants, may not move the visa officer. Sometimes, once they make up their mind to deny you a SP, they have some subjective reasons that would not be disclosed. You need the service of a lawyer, not an immigration consultant (and this is no offence to immigration consultants) who would call the visa officer out for their unreasonable decisions not supported by law (and believe me, they make many decisions not supported by any law, but you don't know if you don't know).

Lawyers in Canada are not cheap, but sometimes it is worth it. Sometimes, government lawyers (the Department of Justice or DoJ) may not defend this case, if they review your lawyer's submissions and your submitted documents. In that case, they will easily concede and promise that if you withdraw the case, they will ask the visa office to give you another opportunity to update your application. That is not to say that they will automatically grant the SP, but in most cases, once DoJ concedes, your application must be clearly flawed for them not to approve it.

All this I say is based on my experience and those of others I know about. You may right a strong SOP, but once a visa officer's mind is prejudiced against you for reasons only known to them, you only need a good immigration lawyer to call them out in a powerful legal submission. It may not be cheap, and could take couple of months, it is worth taking on the fight sometimes, especially if you have the means to do so.

My humble opinion.
 
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aspirant256

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My application was processed in the wrong office, it should have been Abu Dhabi but they processed in Warsaw. What should I do now?
 

Naturgrl

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My application was processed in the wrong office, it should have been Abu Dhabi but they processed in Warsaw. What should I do now?
There is no wrong office & where does it say that IIRC laws. Applications can be assessed and sent to any office to manage workload and processing times. Abu Dhabi must be overloaded so was sent for processing in Warsaw. It could have been sent anywhere. All officers follow the same IIRC laws & regulations when assessing each application.
 

aspirant256

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There is no wrong office & where does it say that IIRC laws. Applications can be assessed and sent to any office to manage workload and processing times. Abu Dhabi must be overloaded so was sent for processing in Warsaw. It could have been sent anywhere. All officers follow the same IIRC laws & regulations when assessing each application.
Give me the reference where it says that the application can be sent to any office