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Tammy91

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Apr 3, 2017
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Hello Everyone! I am an Indian and new to this forum and expecting some guidance regarding immigration to Canada. My application is at BG check right now and I am getting married soon. I plan to update CIC as soon as I get married. However, the problem is that my to be husband is divorced in abroad and we cannot share this with my family in India. Can we both get married without mentioning his previous marriage at the court? Will CIC be able to find out about his first marriage during BG check? Please guide. :(
 

prakash419

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Apr 2, 2017
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Tammy91 said:
Hello Everyone! I am an Indian and new to this forum and expecting some guidance regarding immigration to Canada. My application is at BG check right now and I am getting married soon. I plan to update CIC as soon as I get married. However, the problem is that my to be husband is divorced in abroad and we cannot share this with my family in India. Can we both get married without mentioning his previous marriage at the court? Will CIC be able to find out about his first marriage during BG check? Please guide. :(
I will be brutally honest and direct here. I left India because of the corruption and fraud and lie that is prevalent, now I see many fellow Indians coming to the US doing similar things (e.g. I was taking IELTS and I saw Indians opening the papers before instructed to do so, I took the exam twice, and saw this both times. Similar things I see in workplace, cab drivers, in stores etc.), I myself am an Indian and I am not saying all Indians do this, but we must agree that the tendency to follow corrupt practices is very high in India and a result many people even when they are outside, do things which are absolutely unacceptable in western society. My humble request - please, please follow the rules, do the right thing. Lets make India a better place, not Canada a worse place. I am sure you are coming to Canada for a better life, but Imagine if it becomes like India. Western world is built on certain principles, values and ethics. The rules are strict (2 Indian students in my university were thrown out for cheating) and that's why the society is so successful, please do not corrupt it. My humble request, I beg you.

Note - I see many other comments coming from fellow Indian citizens that are in similar lines (e.g. somebody claiming they worked for 90 hours a week !!) Lets cherish the opportunity that Canada is giving and not abuse it.

I wish you all the success and happiness in your life and a happy married life.
 

vishalg

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Tammy91 said:
Hello Everyone! I am an Indian and new to this forum and expecting some guidance regarding immigration to Canada. My application is at BG check right now and I am getting married soon. I plan to update CIC as soon as I get married. However, the problem is that my to be husband is divorced in abroad and we cannot share this with my family in India. Can we both get married without mentioning his previous marriage at the court? Will CIC be able to find out about his first marriage during BG check? Please guide. :(
if they find, then you will be barred for 5 years for misrepresentation. The question is , are you willing to take that risk?
Also, be honest in your application as Prakash419 rightly mentioned.
 

Tammy91

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Apr 3, 2017
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prakash419 said:
I will be brutally honest and direct here. I left India because of the corruption and fraud and lie that is prevalent, now I see many fellow Indians coming to the US doing similar things (e.g. I was taking IELTS and I saw Indians opening the papers before instructed to do so, I took the exam twice, and saw this both times. Similar things I see in workplace, cab drivers, in stores etc.), I myself am an Indian and I am not saying all Indians do this, but we must agree that the tendency to follow corrupt practices is very high in India and a result many people even when they are outside, do things which are absolutely unacceptable in western society. My humble request - please, please follow the rules, do the right thing. Lets make India a better place, not Canada a worse place. I am sure you are coming to Canada for a better life, but Imagine if it becomes like India. Western world is built on certain principles, values and ethics. The rules are strict (2 Indian students in my university were thrown out for cheating) and that's why the society is so successful, please do not corrupt it. My humble request, I beg you.

Note - I see many other comments coming from fellow Indian citizens that are in similar lines (e.g. somebody claiming they worked for 90 hours a week !!) Lets cherish the opportunity that Canada is giving and not abuse it.

I wish you all the success and happiness in your life and a happy married life.
I am not going to take this as any offence because I strongly agree with you. Thank you for your valuable viewpoint. And trust me everyone who is trying to get out of India has the same reason as yours. Here, societal circumstances force you to misrepresent certain things. No one does it willfully.
 

ParulB

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Mar 27, 2017
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prakash419 said:
(e.g. I was taking IELTS and I saw Indians opening the papers before instructed to do so, I took the exam twice, and saw this both times.
You should have reported them, IELTS expects you to do that. I reported both people who were sharing answers next to me, even at the price of them failing IELTS, because I chose to be truthful to the remaining 100s of students in the room who were doing their best honestly. And I actually got scolded for reporting at the end of exam, not immediately, even though I provided IDS of the cheaters. If you see anything like that again, you should report. It's impossible for IELTS examiners to breath on hundreds of candidates' neck every second so mistakes happen.

I see many other comments coming from fellow Indian citizens that are in similar lines (e.g. somebody claiming they worked for 90 hours a week !!) Lets cherish the opportunity that Canada is giving and not abuse it.
Just a note for anyone reading this - Do not declare work hours you can not prove. I worked consistently for 14-16hrs per day on my India job and in most Indian jobs overtime is common, but unless you can prove legally (e.g. overtime receipts with details of hours worked) it can be a reason for denial. Even if I was working 84-90 hours a week (6 day working + extra time), my job offer letter will only claim a maximum of 48 Hours as originally told to me in appointment letter (8 hours x 6 days working.)

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@OP

There is a clear agreement you sign saying all information you provided is TRUE. That should give you your answer. Giving false information to immigration authorities is illegal.
 

prakash419

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Apr 2, 2017
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Tammy91 said:
I am not going to take this as any offence because I strongly agree with you. Thank you for your valuable viewpoint. And trust me everyone who is trying to get out of India has the same reason as yours. Here, societal circumstances force you to misrepresent certain things. No one does it willfully.
I beg to disagree. Truth is never an option, there can never be an excuse to lie, I would never lie even if my life is in line. It is about how strong your conscience is. Maybe I and you see things differently. But I have noticed when I speak the truth and the person in front of me does not want to hear it (and in denial mode), they cant meet me eye to eye , that tells me that truth is strong, very strong, nothing trumps truth.
 

Tammy91

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Apr 3, 2017
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vishalg said:
if they find, then you will be barred for 5 years for misrepresentation. The question is , are you willing to take that risk?
Also, be honest in your application as Prakash419 rightly mentioned.
Thank you so much! :)
 

prakash419

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Apr 2, 2017
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ParulB said:
You should have reported them, IELTS expects you to do that. I reported both people who were sharing answers next to me, even at the price of them failing IELTS, because I chose to be truthful to the remaining 100s of students in the room who were doing their best honestly. And I actually got scolded for reporting at the end of exam, not immediately, even though I provided IDS of the cheaters. If you see anything like that again, you should report. It's impossible for IELTS examiners to breath on hundreds of candidates' neck every second so mistakes happen.

Just a note for anyone reading this - Do not declare work hours you can not prove. I worked consistently for 14-16hrs per day on my India job and in most Indian jobs overtime is common, but unless you can prove legally (e.g. overtime receipts with details of hours worked) it can be a reason for denial. Even if I was working 84-90 hours a week (6 day working + extra time), my job offer letter will only claim a maximum of 48 Hours as originally told to me in appointment letter (8 hours x 6 days working.)

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@OP

There is a clear agreement you sign saying all information you provided is TRUE. That should give you your answer. Giving false information to immigration authorities is illegal.
Who said I did not :) (I did not find it pertinent to mention here because the question poster might get some unfounded fears), but they (invigilators) just asked them not to open the papers :( (both were soft natured ladies)
 

xpressentry

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Tammy91 said:
Hello Everyone! I am an Indian and new to this forum and expecting some guidance regarding immigration to Canada. My application is at BG check right now and I am getting married soon. I plan to update CIC as soon as I get married. However, the problem is that my to be husband is divorced in abroad and we cannot share this with my family in India. Can we both get married without mentioning his previous marriage at the court? Will CIC be able to find out about his first marriage during BG check? Please guide. :(
You dont need to share your husbands divorce with your family but share it with CIC. Dont show your CIC application to your family and they will never know.

Dont take a risk. What are the odds if his ex wife is immigrating to Canada and declares your husband as her ex husband in her application?
 

gailmargolis

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Mar 25, 2017
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Too much judging going on here. Ask yourself what you'd do if you were in Tammy's position.
 

xpressentry

VIP Member
Nov 27, 2016
3,109
187
London
Category........
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-03-2017
Doc's Request.
Schedule A - upfront
AOR Received.
29-03-2017
IELTS Request
Upfront
File Transfer...
Waiting
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
28-03-2017
Passport Req..
Waiting
VISA ISSUED...
Waiting
LANDED..........
Waiting
gailmargolis said:
Too much judging going on here. Ask yourself what you'd do if you were in Tammy's position.
I did not judge.
 

vishalg

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Oct 14, 2015
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gailmargolis said:
Too much judging going on here. Ask yourself what you'd do if you were in Tammy's position.
No one's judging here, people are giving advice restricted to what should be presented to CIC in terms of PR application.
 

gailmargolis

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Mar 25, 2017
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xpressentry said:
I did not judge.
Sorry I wasn't referring to you specifically, just other comments that were not related to CIC issues
 

Tammy91

Star Member
Apr 3, 2017
59
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xpressentry said:
You dont need to share your husbands divorce with your family but share it with CIC. Dont show your CIC application to your family and they will never know.

Dont take a risk. What are the odds if his ex wife is immigrating to Canada and declares your husband as her ex husband in her application?
That is what we are planning to do now. Thanks a lot!
 

Tammy91

Star Member
Apr 3, 2017
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gailmargolis said:
Too much judging going on here. Ask yourself what you'd do if you were in Tammy's position.
I am really glad that you can empathise. It is much easier to pass comments without stepping into the other person's shoe. :)