Here we go...Trudeau promising big changes for Family Class Sponsorship

[chakrab]

I think you mean the majority of politicians.

liberals and ndp had the chance to fight all these clauses when they were put into vote. None of them did much about it. So I don't have much confidence in them to do anything. Also there are big loopholes in the statements. They want to increase spending but we are already in a deficit. They talk about raising limit to 10000 but no completion timeline. Condition 51 is a major requirement, so I don't know why he wants to remove it. Bringing down 2 years waiting time, well that's inland. What about outland ones? Everything is vague. So knowing politics, I wouldn't be jumping up and down till I see results. these are mere campaign promises.

 

[jamsham12]

liberals and ndp had the chance to fight all these clauses when they were put into vote. None of them did much about it. So I don't have much confidence in them to do anything. Also there are big loopholes in the statements. They want to increase spending but we are already in a deficit. They talk about raising limit to 10000 but no completion timeline. Condition 51 is a major requirement, so I don't know why he wants to remove it. Bringing down 2 years waiting time, well that's inland. What about outland ones? Everything is vague. So knowing politics, I wouldn't be jumping up and down till I see results. these are mere campaign promises.

Agreed, the only gripe i have is getting rid of condition 51, just utter nonsense.

 

[Scotmoose]

Agreed, the only gripe i have is getting rid of condition 51, just utter nonsense.

Agreed, Condition 51 is a good thing and helps to stop fraud marriages. I'd love to know how much of the family class budget is spent due to these types of marriages. Bet it's a hell of a lot. Also they push up the wait time for the rest of us.

 

[automaton82]

But he should, because that would be something to boast about!

Imagine if he did grant PR status to a spouse or partner of a Canadian citizen or PR immediately...along with a Condition 51 restriction. This would allow CIC two years to verify the applicant and his/her relationship with their sponsor, while the foreign national enjoys the benefits (and contributes to Canada) the entire time. If CIC determines that the applicant does not truly qualify to be a PR, they are removed from Canada. What's wrong with that plan?

He could also educate people about what Condition 51 really means, and also what it does NOT mean.


Removing Condition 51 makes no sense whatsoever, IMHO.

That would be a very positive change. Applying for PR under spousal sponsorship and get approval within a week or something (just criminality check), and then spend the next 2 years doing the rest (relationship, medical, etc) while already a PR. This would solve most of the issues now (can't be together if outland, can't leave if inland, can't work, can't have medical insurance, can't be a human, etc.)

 

[chakrab]

That would be a very positive change. Applying for PR under spousal sponsorship and get approval within a week or something (just criminality check), and then spend the next 2 years doing the rest (relationship, medical, etc) while already a PR. This would solve most of the issues now (can't be together if outland, can't leave if inland, can't work, can't have medical insurance, can't be a human, etc.)

i think just granting a visitor visa for the spouses would be a huge step. they can process the PR in the mean time. I just don't get why spouses are refused visa based on the fact that they have a spouse in canada. just like OWP pilot project for inlands, outlands should have a similar project with visitor visas. grant them visa for 2 years till their PR process is finalized. that will change attitude of applicants big time. and it's not much of an issue as well. just submit visitor visa application with the SA.

 

[Ponga]

That would be a very positive change. Applying for PR under spousal sponsorship and get approval within a week or something (just criminality check), and then spend the next 2 years doing the rest (relationship, medical, etc) while already a PR. This would solve most of the issues now (can't be together if outland, can't leave if inland, can't work, can't have medical insurance, can't be a human, etc.)

Exactly! CIC/CBSA already have immediate access to world-wide databases that would reveal criminality issues...which only fuels the debate of why applicants even need to submit those (like the FBI PCC) with their application. Let CIC do it; even if it means adding a few bucks more to the fees, but...I digress.

 

[keesio]

My question...does the conditional PR affect how quickly one's spouse can apply for Citizenship? (irrespective of how often they change the number of years of PR requirement)

C.

It has no impact.

 

[keesio]

I think you mean the majority of politicians.

Yup. All of them.