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Help with student visa

Lacienega

Newbie
Sep 17, 2020
3
0
Hi,

Hopefully someone can shed some light on what to do from here on. My student permit got rejected for the following reasons:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.


What are good examples of ties to home? I have both my siblings living in Canada, one is a citizen and the other one is on a work permit. I live with our dad and I run my freelance business. I'm a student, never gone to university or college, haven't worked for anyone. I want to get my education in Canada since the schools in my country don't offer the same level of education.

What can I use to demonstrate my ties?


• Pursuant to paragraph 220(a) of the IRPA, I am not satisfied that you have sufficient and
available financial resources, without working in Canada, to pay the tuition fees for the course or
program of studies that you intend to pursue.


This doesn't make any sense to me. My Uncle has decided to pay for my tuition and he already paid the first semester. We showcased how much money he had allocated for the studies and they show more than enough. Enough that I could do a masters right after I graduate and still have left over cash. Should I have him write a better letter? Everything I sent in is in English.


Hope someone can help me out as I don't wish to re apply and get rejected once again.

Thanks!
 

primaprime

VIP Member
Apr 6, 2019
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You can request your GCMS notes to find out in greater detail what the reasons were. Strong family ties to Canada can be problematic since they increase the likelihood that you will overstay your permit.
 

Qwertypod

Hero Member
Jan 28, 2019
817
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Do you have your uncle's money in your account? This is what they are looking for - for you to have full access to this money. It's not just about him paying for your courses, it's about you showing that you have the financial means for your education and living expenses in Canada, not your uncle.
 

Lacienega

Newbie
Sep 17, 2020
3
0
Ok, I have requested the GCMS notes. This should help out understanding the why :) I know having my siblings is a bit off putting for them, but why wouldn't they want to have someone who is willing to study and do continuing education (all paid)?


I do not have my uncle's money on my account, does he need to provide the entire amount? or can he add me to his account so I have access to the funds? ( this is a lot easier for us) I think I may be able to open a Canadian account from abroad. My sister and her husband will be paying for my stay (I will be staying with them) , would it be wise to ask them to send me money to my account? Sending the 10K right away is not feasible though, but they can transfer me 1K a month. Maybe a letter explaining the transactions?

Thanks for the replies
 

jweekend

Champion Member
Dec 13, 2019
1,280
224
Ok, I have requested the GCMS notes. This should help out understanding the why :) I know having my siblings is a bit off putting for them, but why wouldn't they want to have someone who is willing to study and do continuing education (all paid)?


I do not have my uncle's money on my account, does he need to provide the entire amount? or can he add me to his account so I have access to the funds? ( this is a lot easier for us) I think I may be able to open a Canadian account from abroad. My sister and her husband will be paying for my stay (I will be staying with them) , would it be wise to ask them to send me money to my account? Sending the 10K right away is not feasible though, but they can transfer me 1K a month. Maybe a letter explaining the transactions?

Thanks for the replies
Yes. They are saying you don't have the money. Your uncle is not going to study.
 

jigzyy

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Jul 1, 2010
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Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
04-05-2013
AOR Received.
09-07-2013
File Transfer...
22-07-2013
Med's Request
02-04-2014
Med's Done....
15-04-2014
Interview........
21-01-2014
Passport Req..
01-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
14-07-2014
LANDED..........
22-09-2014
Ok, I have requested the GCMS notes. This should help out understanding the why :) I know having my siblings is a bit off putting for them, but why wouldn't they want to have someone who is willing to study and do continuing education (all paid)?


I do not have my uncle's money on my account, does he need to provide the entire amount? or can he add me to his account so I have access to the funds? ( this is a lot easier for us) I think I may be able to open a Canadian account from abroad. My sister and her husband will be paying for my stay (I will be staying with them) , would it be wise to ask them to send me money to my account? Sending the 10K right away is not feasible though, but they can transfer me 1K a month. Maybe a letter explaining the transactions?

Thanks for the replies
None of the refusal reasons mentions anything related to your strong ties in Canada. Having a sibling in Canada may or may not effect your application given how other parts of application are presented.

- You don't have enough money to study by yourself or your parents in Canada and seems to have a poor financial situation in Home country. You have to borrow money from an Uncle who may be abroad too
- You don't have enough money to show 10k living expense but instead going to live with sibling. Even though you are going to live with sibling, you will still have to show $10k on top of 1 year education

I'm sure you haven't satisfied both requirements and thus refusal.

To overcome this, you will have to show significant amount of savings, property or assets in the home country under your name and/or parent names. Uncle is a secondary source of financial provider which can withdraw the funds at any moment notice unlike parents and/or sibling. I am also assuming that your siblings financial situation isn't that great either (or have not attached with application) to convince Visa Officer that they can step in and help you out if required. That's why the "without working in Canada, to pay the tuition fees" reason is selected as well.

Do order GCMS notes and all these reasons will be noted there too.
 
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lamen22

Star Member
Sep 8, 2020
145
36
Hi,

Hopefully someone can shed some light on what to do from here on. My student permit got rejected for the following reasons:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.


What are good examples of ties to home? I have both my siblings living in Canada, one is a citizen and the other one is on a work permit. I live with our dad and I run my freelance business. I'm a student, never gone to university or college, haven't worked for anyone. I want to get my education in Canada since the schools in my country don't offer the same level of education.

What can I use to demonstrate my ties?


• Pursuant to paragraph 220(a) of the IRPA, I am not satisfied that you have sufficient and
available financial resources, without working in Canada, to pay the tuition fees for the course or
program of studies that you intend to pursue.


This doesn't make any sense to me. My Uncle has decided to pay for my tuition and he already paid the first semester. We showcased how much money he had allocated for the studies and they show more than enough. Enough that I could do a masters right after I graduate and still have left over cash. Should I have him write a better letter? Everything I sent in is in English.


Hope someone can help me out as I don't wish to re apply and get rejected once again.

Thanks!
Can you please give your timeline for rejection?
Did you get AIP?
 

Lacienega

Newbie
Sep 17, 2020
3
0
On the topic of the money:

I'm not borrowing the money from my uncle, he is gifting me my education. Can he write a letter saying he will be sponsoring me (gifting me) the money? Then have me transfer that money? Maybe using an affidavit of some sort so the government of Canada knows it is legit and he is not just loaning the money.


On the timeline topic:

I applied in July and got the rejection letter in September
 

Impatient Dankaroo

VIP Member
Jan 10, 2020
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Would have been better if your uncle transferred the money to your father's or your account gradually e.g. 5000 a month for a few months prior to your first application. Now any sudden large volume transaction will be looked at suspiciously
 

jweekend

Champion Member
Dec 13, 2019
1,280
224
On the topic of the money:

I'm not borrowing the money from my uncle, he is gifting me my education. Can he write a letter saying he will be sponsoring me (gifting me) the money? Then have me transfer that money? Maybe using an affidavit of some sort so the government of Canada knows it is legit and he is not just loaning the money.


On the timeline topic:

I applied in July and got the rejection letter in September
The visa officer looks at your bank account and how much you have. Not your uncle's bank account.
 

Ace2020

Star Member
Aug 4, 2020
106
9
Hi,

Hopefully someone can shed some light on what to do from here on. My student permit got rejected for the following reasons:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.


What are good examples of ties to home? I have both my siblings living in Canada, one is a citizen and the other one is on a work permit. I live with our dad and I run my freelance business. I'm a student, never gone to university or college, haven't worked for anyone. I want to get my education in Canada since the schools in my country don't offer the same level of education.

What can I use to demonstrate my ties?


• Pursuant to paragraph 220(a) of the IRPA, I am not satisfied that you have sufficient and
available financial resources, without working in Canada, to pay the tuition fees for the course or
program of studies that you intend to pursue.


This doesn't make any sense to me. My Uncle has decided to pay for my tuition and he already paid the first semester. We showcased how much money he had allocated for the studies and they show more than enough. Enough that I could do a masters right after I graduate and still have left over cash. Should I have him write a better letter? Everything I sent in is in English.


Hope someone can help me out as I don't wish to re apply and get rejected once again.

Thanks!
maybe you should give an affidavit of support that your uncle will pay for you