Help on maintaining family in canada and working outside

[hamzay]

Hi,
I've applied for immigration and should be getting my PR in a years time from now.
I want some advise on how i should go about maintaining my pr status following my plan -- any advise is appreciated.

My present job in the middle east is very satisfying and comfortable and more than what i can get in canada based on my qualification and class. but i do still want to eventually make Canada my home for when i retire.

1) I want to get my PR card and return to the middle east and work here, leaving my family in canada.
2) my family can stay in canada and also get their citizenship after 5 years +
3) i will be visiting canada twice a year for a period of 2 weeks only = 30 days per year ( annual vacation)
4) i don't want to lose my pr status so i can keep visitng my family there and buy property and make a home for future retirement.
5) when my family is citizen of canada - what is my status , or what can i do?

Please advise how i can realise this dream of mine .
do u think my thinking is feasible ? i have heard of people work outside of canada while maintaining their family and still have pr - how is this going to be possible?
HELP!

 

[rupeshhari]

My understanding is that a Canadian company (and not just any company) must send you to work outside for you to keep your PR.

If you do the 30 day thing for longer than 3 years, then you'd need a visa to enter Canada. Your family (i believe) can still get their citizenship.

Your spouse could sponsor you later as a PR.

I am no expert so wait for others to reply.

 

[Leon]

rupeshhari is right, once you get to the point that you have spent 1095 days outside Canada within your first 5 years as PR, you will lose your PR status. Your family will still keep their PR status and after 3 years of living in Canada, they can apply for citizenship. Once you are ready to retire, your wife can sponsor you for PR again.

 

[hamzay]

will sponsoring the spouse also take this many years to go through till i get my pr status back? or is that process faster?

another question : as soon as i get my pr status now , i shall start paying the taxes for my salary i earn outside canada currently (if my salary exceeds a certain sum) though i am not staying in canada - am i right?

what will happen if i still do keep supporting my family with what i earn outside , and then lose my pr status - that is after 5 years - would'nt that be a waste of paying the taxes? is there an option?

thanks so much for the replies.

 

[rupeshhari]

I think spousal sponsorship is faster. YOu can check that on the cic website i think.

I dont know about taxes but paying taxes for 3 years (because thats when it looks like you will loose your PR based on what you said), may not be a waste for your family getting citizenship. If you had to retain your PR ( somehow magically), then you'd have to pay taxes until you arrive which may be a lot of money in the long run.

 

[Leon]

If you are a PR but not living in Canada, I am 99% sure you don't have to pay taxes to Canada. You need to talk to an accountant about this. Sponsoring a spouse usually takes less than a year, sometimes as little as 3-4 months.

You also would not keep your PR status for 5 years because as soon as you are outside Canada for 1095 days (3 years) it is gone. Since you plan to be in Canada only 30 days a year, you would lose your PR status after 3 years and 90 days.

 

[hamzay]

hmmm....then i would be paying taxes for 5 years for nothing

i would surely not be eligible for pension benefits too won't i ! lol - double drat!

 

[PMM]

Hi

hmmm....then i would be paying taxes for 5 years for nothing

i would surely not be eligible for pension benefits too won't i ! lol - double drat!

And the office processing the application will insist on seeing the resignation letter and cancellation of the work permit in the overseas country prior to issuing the PR visa. They are not stupid you know.

PMM

 

[hamzay]

Resignation letter BEFORE issuing visa for - u mean before obtaining the landing certificate itself ??!! r u sure about this?

 

[Leon]

hmmm....then i would be paying taxes for 5 years for nothing

i would surely not be eligible for pension benefits too won't i ! lol - double drat!

Why would you be paying taxes for 5 years? Did I not just say that I am 99% sure that you would NOT have to pay taxes to Canada if you are not living there, even if you are PR?

You are not eligible to Canada Pension plan unless you have paid into it. If you are working in Canada, that is taken off your wages. If you are not working in Canada, you don't pay into it so you would not be eligible for it.

 

[hamzay]

Thankx for all ur replies - i will definitely look into more regarding this - coz someone i know is maintaining his pr as well as working abroad - i need to know more about this before i can think of future plans.

Wot PMM said i have never heard anywhere - do they really ask you to resign from all current contracts before u can obtain a landing certificate - i dont think so!

thanks for ur help Rupa and Leon

 

[PMM]

Hi

Thankx for all ur replies - i will definitely look into more regarding this - coz someone i know is maintaining his pr as well as working abroad - i need to know more about this before i can think of future plans.

Wot PMM said i have never heard anywhere - do they really ask you to resign from all current contracts before u can obtain a landing certificate - i dont think so!

thanks for ur help Rupa and Leon

It is quite common for FSW from Damascus and London (for Abu Dhabi) but you can believe what you want.

PMM

 

[hamzay]

with all due respect to PMM , there isn't fire without fuel - will definitely look into in and find out more

thank you

 

[links18]

What I want to know is how a commuter marriage based on two weeks together a year is going to work? Not my business, I guess, but definitely not an option I enjoy!

 

[rupeshhari]

What I want to know is how a commuter marriage based on two weeks together a year is going to work? Not my business, I guess, but definitely not an option I enjoy!

Sometimes you sacrifice for the kids or for the long term. just guessing. also different school of thought.