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Jonoscc

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I was born in Canada, my wife and kids are american and we need to move to Canada at the end of the month. For some reason I was under the impression I could move my family to Canada and then begin to apply for PR. We already have a house and need to be out of our house in the states. The moving truck will come separate with a company. Can I take my chances and claim to be visiting my parents? Or do I need to stay in the states for 15 to 24 months and wait for some kind of status?
 

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Jonoscc said:
I was born in Canada, my wife and kids are american and we need to move to Canada at the end of the month. For some reason I was under the impression I could move my family to Canada and then begin to apply for PR. We already have a house and need to be out of our house in the states. The moving truck will come separate with a company. Can I take my chances and claim to be visiting my parents? Or do I need to stay in the states for 15 to 24 months and wait for some kind of status?
YOU are a canadian citizen. so assuming you have a canadian passport, YOU can move to canada and settle there. You are not going to be seen as a visitor. As mentioned in your other post, your kids are technically canadian citizens and you need to apply for their certificate of citizenship, because i think they will be seen as visitors until that is processed. It's your wife that can only go in as a visitor at this point. She can not go as a visitor for 15-24 months. First of all, US outland applications are taking an average of 8-10 months to process. Do not go by the CIC website. All us applicants go to OTtawa visa office unless there is a siginifant problem with the application. If there is a question of the validity of the relationship or criminal issues with the applicant, then it will be transferred back to LA.

If you apply inland, the processing takes twice as long. I am not sure how it works with applying inland when the applicant's status is a visitor. Once her status as a visitor expires, and she stays, she is there illegally. During an inland application, your wife will not be able to leave canada at all, and even if you guys leave to go on vacation together, she can be denied re-entry and her applicaiton will be cancelled. There will be senior members to give advice as to whether it's a good idea to apply this way and what the risks are.

Your wife can technically be a visitor for 6 mo., and it is completly dependant on the border officer she deals with. They will want to see significant ties to the us as well as plans to apply for PR. Once in Canada as a visitor, she can apply to extend her stay for up to a year. Again, the length of extension is in the hands of CIC who processes the extension request. Some people have applied for a year, and get 6 mo. There are many people who have received extensions for the entirety of the application process. At this point, you and your wife need to start the leg work for getting her application submitted. The sooner the better.
 

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am not sure why you didn't investigate into the matter more before selling your house and all. you are free to come into canada but your family isn't allowed to come and live here as a normal resident. apply for a spousal PR for your wife ASAP and apply for certificate of citizenship for the kids. the kids part will take at least 6 months and i am not sure if they can study as a visitor. your wife will not be able to work until her sponsorship is approved.

you can all "visit" canada and stay there until the process is complete. your wife may need a visitor permit if she plans to stay beyond 6 months at a stretch, so as to not create any further issues with her status.
 

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Jonoscc said:
I was born in Canada, my wife and kids are american and we need to move to Canada at the end of the month. For some reason I was under the impression I could move my family to Canada and then begin to apply for PR. We already have a house and need to be out of our house in the states. The moving truck will come separate with a company. Can I take my chances and claim to be visiting my parents? Or do I need to stay in the states for 15 to 24 months and wait for some kind of status?
Your wife and children come to Canada via airplane as visitors first. And you drive the truck to cross the land border as a returning Canadian. Once everyone is in Canada you file sponsorship
 

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civic said:
Your wife and children come to Canada via airplane as visitors first. And you drive the truck to cross the land border as a returning Canadian. Once everyone is in Canada you file sponsorship
The children are actually citizens and don't need to be sponsored based on the OPs first post to the forum. So I think only the wife needs to be sponsored...
 

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scylla said:
The children are actually citizens and don't need to be sponsored based on the OPs first post to the forum. So I think only the wife needs to be sponsored...
will the children be treated as canadians until they receive certificate of citizenship? i doubt so. the children don't need to be sponsored but i think they will be treated as regular visitors at first.
 

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Yeah we have to apply for citizenship for our daughter otherwise they are just treated as a visitor.
 

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civic said:
Your wife and children come to Canada via airplane as visitors first.
if you decide to do this, make sure to buy return tickets (refundable of course). not traveling with a return ticket is a red flag.
 

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Yeah we have to apply for citizenship for our daughter otherwise they are just treated as a visitor.
Or your wife and the kids can go to Canada on Greyhound. I think Greyhound passengers dont get screened as much and do not need return tickets. It's too much hassle I know. I dont know why we are so scared of CIC even nothing we do is illegal.

The key is do not travel with your wife, especially you are going on a big truck.She probably be questioned or be refused entry
 

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civic said:
Or your wife and the kids can go to Canada on Greyhound. I think Greyhound passengers dont get screened as much and do not need return tickets. It's too much hassle I know. I dont know why we are so scared of CIC even nothing we do is illegal.

The key is do not travel with your wife, especially you are going on a big truck.She probably be questioned or be refused entry
actually, i've traveled on greyhound before and they take everyone and every bag off the bus, and everyone gets in line to talk to immigration. they will also pull people into secondary, and the bus has to wait until everyone gets back on. greyhound is cheap compared to flying, and they can be refundable. it's not worth the risk to not have a return ticket.
 

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civic said:
Or your wife and the kids can go to Canada on Greyhound. I think Greyhound passengers dont get screened as much and do not need return tickets. It's too much hassle I know. I dont know why we are so scared of CIC even nothing we do is illegal.

The key is do not travel with your wife, especially you are going on a big truck.She probably be questioned or be refused entry
Bus passengers can face the same interrogation as anyone else entering Canada. If that was the `easy' route, buses would be lined up for days!
 

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civic said:
Or your wife and the kids can go to Canada on Greyhound. I think Greyhound passengers dont get screened as much and do not need return tickets. It's too much hassle I know. I dont know why we are so scared of CIC even nothing we do is illegal.

The key is do not travel with your wife, especially you are going on a big truck.She probably be questioned or be refused entry
i believe their truck is going independently as per the OP. so it's just going to be the family. won't be a problem as long as they say they are coming in as visitors.
 

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chakrab said:
i believe their truck is going independently as per the OP. so it's just going to be the family. won't be a problem as long as they say they are coming in as visitors.
It doesn't matter if the truck is going separately. The OP has to declare that his goods will follow, he has to fill out all the forms so that he is not charged import taxes for all his belongings. He has every right to cross the border and say he is moving back to Canada as he is a Citizen. However when his wife and kids come, they are crossing as visitors. It is better not to cross together int his case.
 

Jonoscc

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Thank you all for the replies!

We will definitely go separately. Me in a moving truck, my wife and kids in a mini-van, at 2 different border crossings even. (BC has a truck crossing and a regular crossing). I believe it is too late now to apply for anything while in the states because my mailing address will be a Canadian one in 3 weeks. I will definitely get started on the citizenship certificates for the kids.
 

Jonoscc

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chakrab said:
am not sure why you didn't investigate into the matter more before selling your house and all. you are free to come into canada but your family isn't allowed to come and live here as a normal resident. apply for a spousal PR for your wife ASAP and apply for certificate of citizenship for the kids. the kids part will take at least 6 months and i am not sure if they can study as a visitor. your wife will not be able to work until her sponsorship is approved.

you can all "visit" canada and stay there until the process is complete. your wife may need a visitor permit if she plans to stay beyond 6 months at a stretch, so as to not create any further issues with her status.
I did investigate, but not enough obviously. My employer in Canada also looked into it and we both came up with thinking it's perfectly fine for us to move to Canada and then apply for PR.

My wife doesn't need to work for a few more years. Stay at home mom until the kids get older.