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HELP! (family class in-canada, separation...)

marsilius

Newbie
Apr 16, 2018
6
0
Dear Board,

I moved to Canada last year with my Canadian wife and Canadian children from the US. We applied for PR spousal, inland. I received an open work permit in September.

Whereupon my wife moved out and started legal separation. What she may not have known (and I did not realise in the emotional fog) is that PR inland is contingent on cohabitation. She informed IRCC of her new address. They called me and have sent me a letter saying, basically, "you aren't cohabiting, so you aren't eligible. Prove cohabitation."

I won't lie, and we aren't really cohabiting. I assume this means my PR application gets denied. But...then what? my young kids are here:
(1) do I lose my open work permit (valid for two years, but notes "temporary resident status maintained as per r183 6 pending fc apr")?
(1.A) If I lose the OWP, does it become invalid immediately? Do I get a removal order?
(2) What the hell do I do to not abandon my kids?
(2.A) is the only option humanitarian and compassionate?
(2.B) can a separated spouse sponsor me outland somehow?

please please help. I'm a doting dad in the most bottomless pit of despair - I feel like I'm about to lose my kids; I've lost my marriage already. AND...there's soooo much snoW!

Thanks.
 

Wakki

Champion Member
Sep 18, 2017
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606
(1) No
(1.A) if OWP already approved.....it will remain valid until expiry.
(2) your kids can't sponsor you until they are 18 years old.....you may apply through other streams like express entry.....
(2.A) not sure but you may try
(2.B) separated spouse can't sponsor you outland
 

Amy mouse

Star Member
Oct 7, 2018
180
73
44
South Australia
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Sydney, Nova Scotia
App. Filed.......
09-08-2018 returned 31-10-2018
Doc's Request.
17 jan 19 and 23 feb
AOR Received.
Nil
I'm so sorry this happened. You must he heart broken, knowing you will leave the kids behind definitely try for the humanitarian. But to do so I think you have to appeal the first rejection. I cant begin to imagine how you ate feeling. Big hugs
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,594
13,523
You will be expected to work out a custody agreement like other separated spouses. You can ask for primary custody and ask that the kids live with you in US if you want. Now that you separate it is really a family law issue.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Dear Board,

I moved to Canada last year with my Canadian wife and Canadian children from the US. We applied for PR spousal, inland. I received an open work permit in September.

Whereupon my wife moved out and started legal separation. What she may not have known (and I did not realise in the emotional fog) is that PR inland is contingent on cohabitation. She informed IRCC of her new address. They called me and have sent me a letter saying, basically, "you aren't cohabiting, so you aren't eligible. Prove cohabitation."

I won't lie, and we aren't really cohabiting. I assume this means my PR application gets denied. But...then what? my young kids are here:
(1) do I lose my open work permit (valid for two years, but notes "temporary resident status maintained as per r183 6 pending fc apr")?
(1.A) If I lose the OWP, does it become invalid immediately? Do I get a removal order?
(2) What the hell do I do to not abandon my kids?
(2.A) is the only option humanitarian and compassionate?
(2.B) can a separated spouse sponsor me outland somehow?

please please help. I'm a doting dad in the most bottomless pit of despair - I feel like I'm about to lose my kids; I've lost my marriage already. AND...there's soooo much snoW!

Thanks.
Family Class Sponsorship is no longer an option for you. The rejection was correct for two reasons. Firstly, the relationship has broken down and secondly, you are not cohabiting in a conjugal relationship. Both of these are fatal to the Spouse or Common-Law Partner in Canada Class application

You should be investing your time and effort towards an economic class application of some sort. While one can't discount the possibility of a successful H&C application, I suspect that the odds are not good.

How long does the OWP have to run, and are you employed in a skilled NOC role, by a Canadian employer?
 
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shalenabennie

Champion Member
Jan 17, 2017
1,315
313
Visa Office......
London
I'm so sorry this happened. You must he heart broken, knowing you will leave the kids behind definitely try for the humanitarian. But to do so I think you have to appeal the first rejection. I cant begin to imagine how you ate feeling. Big hugs
Inland applications don't have the appeal right, unfortunately.
 
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marsilius

Newbie
Apr 16, 2018
6
0
yes, I'm a wreck.

Do I have to leave Canada in order to appeal for humanitarian grounds? Can I apply for economic pending the humanitarian?

My OWP has 2 years, and I am employed as an Executive Director of a non-profit by a Canadian non-profit.

Part of the complication is that there are no countries where the ex-spouse and I have the right to live. Kids are US+Can+UK. I am UK. She is Can.

I am reasonably fluently bilingual in French (native english). But...mostly just so terrified of losing my kids.
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
yes, I'm a wreck.

Do I have to leave Canada in order to appeal for humanitarian grounds? Can I apply for economic pending the humanitarian?

My OWP has 2 years, and I am employed as an Executive Director of a non-profit by a Canadian non-profit.

Part of the complication is that there are no countries where the ex-spouse and I have the right to live. Kids are US+Can+UK. I am UK. She is Can.

I am reasonably fluently bilingual in French (native english). But...mostly just so terrified of losing my kids.
In that case, use the time on OWP to qualify for Express Entry - CEC class.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/eligibility/canadian-experience-class.html

You have a far better chance with that than H&C.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,862
22,119
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Agreed with the above. Your chances of a successful H&C application are very very low.

Focus on qualifying for an economic immigration program.