Has anyone been excused from providing an essential document such as a PCC????

[legalfalcon]

To be honest with you, I think you did not understand what legalfalcon was saying. Actually, you did not even understand the question that OP asked.

When you said "Never unless your country has serious security issues like Syria or Libya or Irag", you were wrong. Like legalfalcon said, you do get exemptions and extensions for PCC. If you have not come across any such case yet that does not mean it did not happen.

For many countries like Malaysia, Mexico, Saudia Arabia etc. you do not need to provide a PCC during your eAPR. They send you a letter later on if you require a PCC. And last time I checked, none of these countries had serious security issues. Rules are different for all countries. For Malaysia, they do not issue a PCC unless you have lived there for at least 12 months. See, the rules vary from country to country.

And speaking of being rude, it depends on the reader how they interpret the tone of a written sentence. And, if someone has got PR this does not mean that they cannot keep themselves updated about the latest changes. As far as I know, most of the active "senior" members here are up to date with their knowledge of the whole process.

Thanks for your input! Appreciated!

 

[mamgain]

Hi Legalfalcon,

I read this whole thread and would appreciate your insight / advice regarding my PCC situation.

First some dates:
Applied PCC from Afghanistan Embassy in Delhi on 30/Sept/2016,
ITA: 11/Jan/2017,
eAPR: 08/Feb/2017 with LOE of unavailability of Afghan PCC
Request for ADR: 14/March/2017 with 60 days to provide the PCC

On 15/March/2017, I went to Afghan embassy in Delhi and showed them the CIC letter and explained that if I dont get this PCC, my application with CIC could be rejected. After much argument, I received a letter confirming that I did apply for the PCC on 30/09/2016 and the emabassy has sent my fingerprints, etc to the relevant authorities in Afghanistan. They declined to comment on when (and if?) I would ever get a PCC and instead they want me to contact the Afghanistan Police authorities myself..and this is certainly not possible as I have no contact there.

Now, I am willing to prepare a detailed LOE of this situation and have some questions in this regard:

1) The 60 day period ends 13/May. Can I submit my LOE around 07/May? Yes, patience is not my virtue. Also, I don't see the point of waiting without any response from Embassy, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc

2) What else could I do to bolster my case? I have sent emails to Ministry of Foreign affairs with no avail. I have also got a pdf document link on internet where US Govt is asking PCC from Iraq applicants but not from Afghanistan applicants.

2) What are the possible outcomes of my LOE submission? another extension does not appeal to me much.

Also, some people have advised me to contact the Ministry of Foreign affairs through Facebook and there is some guy who charges like USD 500 and gives PCC. Actually, I did contact him through a fake FB account (I dont use FB myself) and he responded within 5 minutes of my message. Imagine a bureaucrat in Afghanistan responds so fast outside of office hours. Can I include this corruption scenario in my LOE to show what kind of games are happening in this place.

thanks for your help

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi Legalfalcon,

I read this whole thread and would appreciate your insight / advice regarding my PCC situation.

First some dates:
Applied PCC from Afghanistan Embassy in Delhi on 30/Sept/2016,
ITA: 11/Jan/2017,
eAPR: 08/Feb/2017 with LOE of unavailability of Afghan PCC
Request for ADR: 14/March/2017 with 60 days to provide the PCC

On 15/March/2017, I went to Afghan embassy in Delhi and showed them the CIC letter and explained that if I dont get this PCC, my application with CIC could be rejected. After much argument, I received a letter confirming that I did apply for the PCC on 30/09/2016 and the emabassy has sent my fingerprints, etc to the relevant authorities in Afghanistan. They declined to comment on when (and if?) I would ever get a PCC and instead they want me to contact the Afghanistan Police authorities myself..and this is certainly not possible as I have no contact there.

Now, I am willing to prepare a detailed LOE of this situation and have some questions in this regard:

1) The 60 day period ends 13/May. Can I submit my LOE around 07/May? Yes, patience is not my virtue. Also, I don't see the point of waiting without any response from Embassy, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc

2) What else could I do to bolster my case? I have sent emails to Ministry of Foreign affairs with no avail. I have also got a pdf document link on internet where US Govt is asking PCC from Iraq applicants but not from Afghanistan applicants.

2) What are the possible outcomes of my LOE submission? another extension does not appeal to me much.

Also, some people have advised me to contact the Ministry of Foreign affairs through Facebook and there is some guy who charges like USD 500 and gives PCC. Actually, I did contact him through a fake FB account (I dont use FB myself) and he responded within 5 minutes of my message. Imagine a bureaucrat in Afghanistan responds so fast outside of office hours. Can I include this corruption scenario in my LOE to show what kind of games are happening in this place.

thanks for your help

I have answered your question here - http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thank-you-legalfalcon-t408185.1035.html This thread will be dead soon, so wanted to get this on a threat that is still live and active.

 

[CanadaBolivia2017]

Speaking of PCC

"For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR."

I was really stupid I just saw that after submission of my APR. I had submitted a police certificate that is valid til aug 2017, issued in aug 2016, as per the issuing country which is now my residence again.

But i have another certificate for which a request by IRCC is needed from the country i lived in last year. For this, i submitted a document saying: i am applying from a country that needs official letter from ircc.....

Would ircc deem my application incomplete?! i am so worried right now. Is there anything i can do?
Has somebody experienced something like this?
How much time after submitting the application does ircc respond with an incomplete or complete status?

Thank you for ur help!!

 

[mamgain]

I have answered your question here - http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/thank-you-legalfalcon-t408185.1035.html This thread will be dead soon, so wanted to get this on a threat that is still live and active.

Thank you for your quick reply LegalFalcon. I see your suggestions are of possibilities / avenues of something I had no idea about. Many thanks. I gave you a plus one.

 

[alzs-]

Yes, PCC extension are regularly granted depending on the circumstances of the case and the due diligence of the applicant. If you cannot obtain the PCC, you should write a LoE and include all documentation that you did to find the FIN number. Also include the forms or information where it states that a FIN number is mandatory to get a PCC. Based on your application IRCC may give your additional time or exempt you from the PCC altogether.

However, you will need to write a strong LoE and make sure that everything is discussed in detail with documents to support it.

Did that already! Added all proof of communications with Singaporean authorities, with my husband's university, his passport, all showing that without this document number it is impossible to provide a PCC. I have submitted my application and now am waiting. But I am not very positive. When I put myself in the immigration officer's shoes, I think: what if this guy has a record in Singapore and is just claiming he does not remember his number...

But let's wait! I will let you all know once I get a position from CIC.

 

[Elamin]

I never wrote any thing that was rude, insulting or derogatory. I only asked that if you are not sure, please refrain from posting, as it creates confusion and chaos, especially for the person who has asked the question. Further, as regards you questioning my credentials, I am a licensed lawyer in three countries, have a legal experience spanning over a decade, and I will have my license to practice in Canada in the next few months. So yes, I am not a consultant (with a 12 month diploma, or a high school graduate working for IRCC). I have represented people in immigration proceedings in the US, even though immigration is not my core area, it is litigation. I believe that with my skill set and education, I am better prepared that you are. I am here to help others and create information which is reliable and accurate. On many occasions when I am not sure the answer, I do not reply or seek help from other people who have better knowledge or first hand experience.

I would once again request you to stop posting inaccurate information.

Hi legalfalcon,
Appreciated your support. I have worked in Iraq for two years, i'm confused whether or not i should get a PCC from iraq (which is extremely difficult if not impossible), and in which case i will be exempted from submitting this iraqi PCC.
Thank you

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi legalfalcon,
Appreciated your support. I have worked in Iraq for two years, i'm confused whether or not i should get a PCC from iraq (which is extremely difficult if not impossible), and in which case i will be exempted from submitting this iraqi PCC.
Thank you

This would depend on where you worked in Iraq and under what capacity. If you were a a part of the UN or the military, you can use other documents instead of PCC.

 

[Elamin]

This would depend on where you worked in Iraq and under what capacity. If you were a a part of the UN or the military, you can use other documents instead of PCC.

I'm working in a private Oil and Gas company as a Supervisor Engineer located southern of Iraq (near Basra), due to our company safety and security policy we only transported from our camp location directly to the airport and vise versa with no access to the city.

 

[Manmeet2989]

Hello everyone,

Please I need urgent help. My fiance had applied for Manitoba PR in May 2015. He received his PNP in feb2017 after which be applied for PR. Now everything was fine but the only obstacle is Itaq PCC. We have mailed the Itaqi embassy in India, we mailed the company in Iraq where he worked, we mailed the ministery of external affairs about the urgent need of PCC but nobody has replied. We dont know anyone in Iraq so what should we do. I read about LoE. What exactly is that? How can we get exempted from Iraq PCC. He even went to embassy but they just made him fill a form and then told him to expect nthng. Everything else is fine in his case, just this pcc is a problem. I wish he never went to Iraq
Someone please help us. We are soo lost

 

[alzs-]

Just to update the situation: we have cleared medicals and have been stuck on IP1 for some days. Then today CIC requested the Singaporean PCC. So my LOE and all proof I sent were not accepted.

We were already seeking attorneys to help us with that matter, but they are charging so much that most likely my husband will fly there and will try to sort this out in person.

 

[rafalh]

Thanks, Hasan. Can't believe they are asking PCC from countries which have security concerns

Btw I am she not he!

Do I need to provide a police certificate for Express Entry?
You do not have to provide a police certificate from Syria unless we ask for one.
When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. To submit your online application, write or type "As per IRCC instructions, I do not need to submit a police certificate from Syria with my application at this time" on a blank piece of paper and upload it in the Police Certificate section.

Do I need to provide a police certificate for Express Entry?
You do not have to provide a police certificate from Libya unless we ask for one.
When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. To submit your online application, write or type “As per IRCC instructions, I do not need to submit a police certificate from Libya with my application at this time” on a blank piece of paper and upload it in the Police Certificate section.

Do I need to provide a police certificate for Express Entry?
You do not have to provide a police certificate from Iraq unless we ask for one.
When you apply for permanent residence, you will be asked to upload a police certificate. To submit your online application, write or type "As per IRCC instructions, I do not need to submit a police certificate from Iraq with my application at this time" on a blank piece of paper and upload it in the Police Certificate section.

Check for yourself legalfalcon

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/index.asp#I

I am doing my research now in 2020 as the system has automatically requested a PCC from Iraq, which I won't be able to provide for obvious reasons.

Is the above advice official? Can I only submit a statement instead of PCC where they ask me to upload an Iraqi PCC?