H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[Hunar@2025]

Submitted application from Canada for my FIL last year in 2024 August or September can’t remember exact date.
Received biometric Sept 25th and he went for biometrics on 26th.

No updates after that. Application submitted under H&C ground. Thanks

 

[canuck78]

To be fair it was once easier to get H&C approval so even your advice may no longer be as relevant. We are also seeing many face removal waiting for H&C application to be processed which rarely happened in the past. Immigration in Canada has changed dramatically in 3 years.

 

[Hunar@2025]

To be fair it was once easier to get H&C approval so even your advice may no longer be as relevant. We are also seeing many face removal waiting for H&C application to be processed which rarely happened in the past. Immigration in Canada has changed dramatically in 3 years.

Got it but our scenario is legit. I believe waiting period is forever. It would be good if they look at application and make decision fast instead of putting applications into waitlist.

 

[wiener]

To be fair it was once easier to get H&C approval so even your advice may no longer be as relevant. We are also seeing many face removal waiting for H&C application to be processed which rarely happened in the past. Immigration in Canada has changed dramatically in 3 years.

We are currently seeing a significant uptrend in volume of H and C applications, and drop in number of refugee claims. I think IRCC needs to be releastic in target immigration numbers, especially with 5 million people whose permits gonna expire in 2025.

 

[canuck78]

We are currently seeing a significant uptrend in volume of H and C applications, and drop in number of refugee claims. I think IRCC needs to be releastic in target immigration numbers, especially with 5 million people whose permits gonna expire in 2025.

The target numbers were in response to infrastructure issues, economic issues, social issues, etc. Not sure how you could justify increased targets at this moment and doubt there will be significant changes. Sadly previous government made some huge mistakes and some will suffer the consequences of their poor planning.

 

[canuck78]

Got it but our scenario is legit. I believe waiting period is forever. It would be good if they look at application and make decision fast instead of putting applications into waitlist.

Why there haven’t been reforms already is mind boggling but hopefully they are coming soon since the H&C system is a huge mess. The big issue is H&C were meant for fairly rare and complex cases with a lot of evidence so they are both expensive and time consuming to process.

 

[wiener]

Why there haven’t been reforms already is mind boggling but hopefully they are coming soon since the H&C system is a huge mess. The big issue is H&C were meant for fairly rare and complex cases with a lot of evidence so they are both expensive and time consuming to process.

H and C is like refugee program is meant for people from war torn and unstabe countries who will face exeptional hardship if return to their home countries. Rightnow, target numbers are small, shrinking, and will not even accomodate genuine applications, unless IRCC likes issuing AIP without approval for second stage and people will adapt to living in Canada on work permits.

 

[wiener]

The target numbers were in response to infrastructure issues, economic issues, social issues, etc. Not sure how you could justify increased targets at this moment and doubt there will be significant changes. Sadly previous government made some huge mistakes and some will suffer the consequences of their poor planning.

If that is the case, IRCC should stop accepting and inviting individuals from outside of Canada who know nothing about the Canadian culture. Prioritizing temporary residents who are established in Canada will not create any pressure on social services. As far as skills are concerned, they are many skilled professionals among temporary residents and refugees inside Canada who are ready to contribute to Canadian economy.

 

[FNU]

I agree with this statement. If they are really thinking about inflation, infrastructure and economy, they should start with in Canada applications first and stop torturing people who already established here.

 

[canuck78]

I agree with this statement. If they are really thinking about inflation, infrastructure and economy, they should start with in Canada applications first and stop torturing people who already established here.

They are. The economic programs heavily favour those already in Canada with Canadian job experience and education. The volume of people versus the number of spots for economic immigration doesn’t match up. There are also certain skills that are needed versus others therefore those are being prioritized. With a pretty high unemployment rate, especially amongst younger people, and a bad economy Canada can’t absorb the volume of temporary residents wanting to remain. Sadly that is just the reality. Would add temporary residents already have put pressure on many services and infrastructure which is one of the issues why the goal is to reduce the volume of temporary residents. The goal is to try to decrease some of the pressure.

 

[canuck78]

H and C is like refugee program is meant for people from war torn and unstabe countries who will face exeptional hardship if return to their home countries. Rightnow, target numbers are small, shrinking, and will not even accomodate genuine applications, unless IRCC likes issuing AIP without approval for second stage and people will adapt to living in Canada on work permits.

H&C is not for people from war torn countries or even many unstable countries that is what the asylum system is for.

 

[canuck78]

is possible stage 2 get refused based on inadmissibility grounds for financial reasons A39 applied to H&C requester ?

Of course. The ability to support yourself financially in Canada is one of the considerations in many H&C applications.

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

They are. The economic programs heavily favour those already in Canada with Canadian job experience and education. The volume of people versus the number of spots for economic immigration doesn’t match up. There are also certain skills that are needed versus others therefore those are being prioritized. With a pretty high unemployment rate, especially amongst younger people, and a bad economy Canada can’t absorb the volume of temporary residents wanting to remain. Sadly that is just the reality. Would add temporary residents already have put pressure on many services and infrastructure which is one of the issues why the goal is to reduce the volume of temporary residents. The goal is to try to decrease some of the pressure.

The LMIA requirements regarding unemployment for census metropolitan areas is a joke. As soon as there are workers that become PRs, the employers are right away contacting their immigration agencies for more TFWs. I have spoken to some TFWs at certain restaurants and they told me that they are awaiting 4 more TFWs to arrive from the philippines already instead of hiring workers that are already in Canada, regardless of status. Such a joke.

 

[burgundaire]

Hi everyone, I just got my AIP two days ago and they asked me to submit proof that I am not on social assistance. Has anyone else sent something for this? what proof did you submit? for context, my work permit expired in the middle of this long waiting game so I haven't been working but I have savings and live with family members. All this info was in my initial application which is why they asked. Any info you can give about what to write to show I am self-supporting even though I'm not working would be appreciated.

 

[Deleted member 1294351]

Hi everyone, I just got my AIP two days ago and they asked me to submit proof that I am not on social assistance. Has anyone else sent something for this? what proof did you submit? for context, my work permit expired in the middle of this long waiting game so I haven't been working but I have savings and live with family members. All this info was in my initial application which is why they asked. Any info you can give about what to write to show I am self-supporting even though I'm not working would be appreciated.

That is so ridiculous. Its very difficult to prove a negative… Its like asking me to show proof that there isnt a white whale in a pool of water buried under my home.
However, do you have a bank account in your name? I would think you could show bank statements or get some letters from family members stating that they have bEen supporting your basic needs and donot receive social assistance?