GRAB A JOB IN CANADA THROUGH JOB BANK::::::

[kryt0n]

I was able to get a job on jobbank from outside Canada. Not because you some people haven't is no reason to brand the site as useless and other negative things. Furthermore, many of the sites some are promoting such as indeed actually pull postings from jobbank and may employers connect job bank ads to other external job postings. Please stop spreading false information.

Job bank is used primarily because employers who want to sponsor people HAVE to advertise there. That's why we call them fake.

Indeed etc do link to job bank again because lmia employers have to advertise the jobs on public job boards.

Well done for getting a job through job bank. You may be the first.

Job bank adverts are only released to ee applicants 4 weeks after the job initially is offered, because they want Canadians to apply first.

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Job bank is used primarily because employers who want to sponsor people HAVE to advertise there. That's why we call them fake.

Indeed etc do link to job bank again because lmia employers have to advertise the jobs on public job boards.

Well done for getting a job through job bank. You may be the first.

Job bank adverts are only released to ee applicants 4 weeks after the job initially is offered, because they want Canadians to apply first.

You can search jobbbank whether you are in the ee pool or not so I don't see how that is an issue. Additionally, if you guys have ever spent any time in the temporary foreign worker part of the forum then you'd know many people have received job offers through jobs posted on job bank etc. It makes good sense for an employer to post on as many sites as possible in order to attract as many good candidates as possible. It makes no sense to hate on jobbank and give love to other sites that post the same listings.

 

[kryt0n]

You can search jobbbank whether you are in the ee pool or not so I don't see how that is an issue. Additionally, if you guys have ever spent any time in the temporary foreign worker part of the forum then you'd know many people have received job offers through jobs posted on job bank etc. It makes good sense for an employer to post on as many sites as possible in order to attract as many good candidates as possible. It makes no sense to hate on jobbank and give love to other sites that post the same listings.

Job bank only offers ee applicants the job 4 weeks after it has been first advertised.

TFW inside Canada are much more likely to get any job offer than outland applicants.

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Job bank only offers ee applicants the job 4 weeks after it has been first advertised.

TFW inside Canada are much more likely to get any job offer than outland applicants.

Waiting on job bank to release an offer to you is a passive approach to job hunting because you can search yourself. I have searched many times myself without username or password or anything. I constantly look at all job sites because I am proactive about my career and profession. Additional I was outside Canada when I got my job so while TFWs inside may have a leg up, it is still not impossible. Making yourself marketable and writing a good resume is a huge part of getting hired. I'd say anyone who would sit and just wait for jobs adverts to come to them is not very motivated in the search for a job.

 

[vensak]

I was able to get a job on jobbank from outside Canada. Not because you some people haven't is no reason to brand the site as useless and other negative things. Furthermore, many of the sites some are promoting such as indeed actually pull postings from jobbank and may employers connect job bank ads to other external job postings. Please stop spreading false information.

yes you are the 0,00001% case.

Here is how normal employer think:
1. I must do LMIA and I have to pay for it 1k CAD already
2. I want to do it as cheap as possible and jobbank is for free.
3. I know that most of the people using jobbank are high skilled foreigners without proper work visa or mostly low skilled Canadians (most high skilled will opt for other resources).
4. I can get tons of applicants there for free so that I can show that I cannot find suitable Canadian or PR for this job.
5. I get LMIA done and after that I do not care about jobbank anymore.

And here is when he thinks about real hiring:
1. jobbank is for free, but is a bit chaotic and I have problem to find what I need.
2. The moment I put there my offer I am surrounded with tons of wanna be applicants, who mostly just want to get to Canada no matter what and usually do not have proper work visa (LMIA needed)/
3. I am not very eager to go for LMIA if only I can find somebody without that.
4. I will advertise in other sites, where is much higher chance to attract somebody who already has proper working visa
5. Since jobbank is for free I will use it as a last resort if ever I am not able to find anybody using other ways (which I almost always do).


As a result jobbank has rather poor rating among employers and among experienced applicants.
But even here an exception can happen.

As for Indeed.com - that is a specific website that searches through several other websites for job offers. But there you can also add some features (like job alert and such), plus searching over there is much much more user friendly.

And also in order to be able to register yourself for jobbank you will either need your SIN or invitation number from your EE profile.

As for the marketable part

The moment they see foreign phone number or home adress, they drop interest in 99% of cases.

and if ever they replay and find out, that you need help with your work visa - another 99% drop is awaited.

 

[kryt0n]

Waiting on job bank to release an offer to you is a passive approach to job hunting because you can search yourself. I have searched many times myself without username or password or anything. I constantly look at all job sites because I am proactive about my career and profession. Additional I was outside Canada when I got my job so while TFWs inside may have a leg up, it is still not impossible. Making yourself marketable and writing a good resume is a huge part of getting hired. I'd say anyone who would sit and just wait for jobs adverts to come to them is not very motivated in the search for a job.

I've applied for hundreds of jobs. I haven't heard anything back THROUGH JOB BANK.

Outside of job bank I have had offers but the employer is not willing to go through the lmia route.

Someone who registers with job bank with an EE profile only sees jobs 4 weeks after they are posted .

People who have registered with job bank with SINs are deemed 'Canadian' and see the jobs first.

 

[ButterflyChemist]

yes you are the 0,00001% case.

Here is how normal employer think:
1. I must do LMIA and I have to pay for it 1k CAD already
2. I want to do it as cheap as possible and jobbank is for free.
3. I know that most of the people using jobbank are high skilled foreigners without proper work visa or mostly low skilled Canadians (most high skilled will opt for other resources).
4. I can get tons of applicants there for free so that I can show that I cannot find suitable Canadian or PR for this job.
5. I get LMIA done and after that I do not care about jobbank anymore.

And here is when he thinks about real hiring:
1. jobbank is for free, but is a bit chaotic and I have problem to find what I need.
2. The moment I put there my offer I am surrounded with tons of wanna be applicants, who mostly just want to get to Canada no matter what and usually do not have proper work visa (LMIA needed)/
3. I am not very eager to go for LMIA if only I can find somebody without that.
4. I will advertise in other sites, where is much higher chance to attract somebody who already has proper working visa
5. Since jobbank is for free I will use it as a last resort if ever I am not able to find anybody using other ways (which I almost always do).


As a result jobbank has rather poor rating among employers and among experienced applicants.
But even here an exception can happen.

As for Indeed.com - that is a specific website that searches through several other websites for job offers. But there you can also add some features (like job alert and such), plus searching over there is much much more user friendly.

And also in order to be able to register yourself for jobbank you will either need your SIN or invitation number from your EE profile.

As for the marketable part

The moment they see foreign phone number or home adress, they drop interest in 99% of cases.

and if ever they replay and find out, that you need help with your work visa - another 99% drop is awaited.

Employers are turned off from hiring foreigners regardless of the site on which they advertise so it's not a jobbank issue at all.

You don't have to register on job bank in order to search for jobs on the site.

I understand that some people have an issue with the government prioritizing Canadians and PRs for jobs but I don't see why that should be. If local talent exists, then by all means, they should be given preference.

Job bank is not the only advertising employers are required to do in order to offer a job to a foreigner, so making it free is actually a benefit to the employer and foreign worker because it makes the overall process cheaper and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[vensak]

I've applied for hundreds of jobs. I haven't heard anything back THROUGH JOB BANK.

Outside of job bank I have had offers but the employer is not willing to go through the lmia route.

Someone who registers with job bank with an EE profile only sees jobs 4 weeks after they are posted .

People who have registered with job bank with SINs are deemed 'Canadian' and see the jobs first.

Which makes them pretty useless, as a normal employer gets enough application within first 3 days after posting his job offer.

Employer will not go after foreigner most of the time for the simple reason - he does not know if the foreigner will be approved or not and there is rather decent import of all kind of new foreigners that have all documents ready.

Employer only needs to write his job offer once (and then copy it in different websites).
A potential employee should always adjust his motivation letter and resume according to the wanted employer.
Doing it when knowing how low the probability of success is, is waste of time.

 

[ButterflyChemist]

Which makes them pretty useless, as a normal employer gets enough application within first 3 days after posting his job offer.

Employer will not go after foreigner most of the time for the simple reason - he does not know if the foreigner will be approved or not and there is rather decent import of all kind of new foreigners that have all documents ready.

Employer only needs to write his job offer once (and then copy it in different websites).
A potential employee should always adjust his motivation letter and resume according to the wanted employer.
Doing it when knowing how low the probability of success is, is waste of time.

If the aim is to bring in talent that is not present or in short supply in Canada then it's not useless is it? Why bring in someone to do something if there's already people here to do it?

 

[Amdavadi]

I was able to get a job on jobbank from outside Canada. Not because you some people haven't is no reason to brand the site as useless and other negative things. Furthermore, many of the sites some are promoting such as indeed actually pull postings from jobbank and may employers connect job bank ads to other external job postings. Please stop spreading false information.

You are the lucky one. but we are talking about practical possibilities to get job by job bank, which are none.
I applied to more than 200 job posts after post graduate work permit. If you find desi employer on job bank, you shouldn't consider to apply there because that posting is for advertisement for lMIA. I saw so many posting just under my NOC 2211 on job bank sitting there for six months ! they can not even find one candidate in six months ?

If you apply to Canadian employer chances of them to hire you from other country is negligible, I wont say none since I have your case. Why would they go through all the paper work, when they can find someone from here?
If desi employer hire you, its because they want to pay less and ask you for KALI Majduri
If someone consider skills, there are chances they hire you from other country.

Sorry for the long post but I feel really frustrated. we as an international students spent so much money, did not get sin number, file AINP got laid off after one year skilled work exp, AINP got rejected because 2 years of freaking processing time, and finally got selected in EE when any one can get selected ? ?

I should have stayed in india for 5 years and could have collected work exp and eventually get selected in EE anyways. Atleast I could earn something and didn't have to spend so much on my tuition fees.

Thanks for reading, none of these is your fault.

lol

 

[vensak]

If the aim is to bring in talent that is not present or in short supply in Canada then it's not useless is it? Why bring in someone to do something if there's already people here to do it?

But that is how 90%+ of all LMIA work.
Most of the time we are not that much speaking about precious talent, but about cheaper source (you can push an immigrant to the lower pay scale much easier than somebody who is already long term present on the market).

Other part that plays role is how satisfied you are with that person that you want to hire under LMIA (that is why good amount of LMIA actually happens at the end of some opened work permit). But that sais very little about how many people could do such job comparably good.

(good amount of all LMIA still are cooks or restaurant managers).

When we are speaking about so called tallents, we speak about small amount of highly specialised positions, we are speaking maybe about less than 100 such positions needed in Canada but not being able to be covered internally.

 

[ButterflyChemist]

But that is how 90%+ of all LMIA work.
Most of the time we are not that much speaking about precious talent, but about cheaper source (you can push an immigrant to the lower pay scale much easier than somebody who is already long term present on the market).

Other part that plays role is how satisfied you are with that person that you want to hire under LMIA (that is why good amount of LMIA actually happens at the end of some opened work permit). But that sais very little about how many people could do such job comparably good.

(good amount of all LMIA still are cooks or restaurant managers).

When we are speaking about so called tallents, we speak about small amount of highly specialised positions, we are speaking maybe about less than 100 such positions needed in Canada but not being able to be covered internally.

LMIAs go to cooks etc because most Canadians choose not to do these jobs. Also LMIAs require employers to pay the same wage to a foreign worker that they would pay a Canadian. Yes, I know some employers are unscrupulous and do not do this but that's another issue.

Anyways I don't want to keep going back and forth and I feel that we have veered far off track. I commented on this thread because people were saying jobbank was fake. While it may be difficult to get a job through jobbank saying it is fake is not honest and may certainly mislead people who are not familiar with the different issues.

 

[Amdavadi]

But that is how 90%+ of all LMIA work.
Most of the time we are not that much speaking about precious talent, but about cheaper source (you can push an immigrant to the lower pay scale much easier than somebody who is already long term present on the market).

Other part that plays role is how satisfied you are with that person that you want to hire under LMIA (that is why good amount of LMIA actually happens at the end of some opened work permit). But that sais very little about how many people could do such job comparably good.

(good amount of all LMIA still are cooks or restaurant managers).

When we are speaking about so called tallents, we speak about small amount of highly specialised positions, we are speaking maybe about less than 100 such positions needed in Canada but not being able to be covered internally.

Exactly, some companies actually helps to get LMIA on their own expenses for highly skilled posts like research scientist but others are greedy employers who just want to make money and get free labor. They will ask around $15000 or more for LMIA and they know you have to work there one year or less depending upon your exp to get eligible in EE. They will get practically free labor by paying you minimum wage which is around 1700 monthly. for six months they get free labor and you will lick them until you get PR.

I know a friend who is Canadian registered pharmacist and he could not figure out anything for PR and got LMIA by paying $15000 and working at pizza store since 10 months now.

Canada says they want to immigrate skilled immigrant ! This how by forcing someone to work $12 when he could actually get $50??

Some families and people are non skilled, barely speaks English and have PR. and other skilled , international students begs for it.

 

[Amdavadi]

LMIAs go to cooks etc because most Canadians choose not to do these jobs. Also LMIAs require employers to pay the same wage to a foreign worker that they would pay a Canadian. Yes, I know some employers are unscrupulous and do not do this but that's another issue.

Anyways I don't want to keep going back and forth and I feel that we have veered far off track. I commented on this thread because people were saying jobbank was fake. While it may be difficult to get a job through jobbank saying it is fake is not honest and may certainly mislead people who are not familiar with the different issues.

Do you know greed ?? They pay you $16 or more and ask everything back including tax over minimum wage. and ask you $15000 or more just for helping with LMIA

 

[xpressentry]

yes you are the 0,00001% case.

Here is how normal employer think:
1. I must do LMIA and I have to pay for it 1k CAD already
2. I want to do it as cheap as possible and jobbank is for free.
3. I know that most of the people using jobbank are high skilled foreigners without proper work visa or mostly low skilled Canadians (most high skilled will opt for other resources).
4. I can get tons of applicants there for free so that I can show that I cannot find suitable Canadian or PR for this job.
5. I get LMIA done and after that I do not care about jobbank anymore.

And here is when he thinks about real hiring:
1. jobbank is for free, but is a bit chaotic and I have problem to find what I need.
2. The moment I put there my offer I am surrounded with tons of wanna be applicants, who mostly just want to get to Canada no matter what and usually do not have proper work visa (LMIA needed)/
3. I am not very eager to go for LMIA if only I can find somebody without that.
4. I will advertise in other sites, where is much higher chance to attract somebody who already has proper working visa
5. Since jobbank is for free I will use it as a last resort if ever I am not able to find anybody using other ways (which I almost always do).


As a result jobbank has rather poor rating among employers and among experienced applicants.
But even here an exception can happen.

As for Indeed.com - that is a specific website that searches through several other websites for job offers. But there you can also add some features (like job alert and such), plus searching over there is much much more user friendly.

And also in order to be able to register yourself for jobbank you will either need your SIN or invitation number from your EE profile.

As for the marketable part

The moment they see foreign phone number or home adress, they drop interest in 99% of cases.

and if ever they replay and find out, that you need help with your work visa - another 99% drop is awaited.

I have seen the job bank email addresses having gmail and yahoo. The employer usually has an Asian name. IMO, the employer thinks

1. I have a friend / relative in Asia who wants to come to Canada
2. Let me advertise this job with a description that exactly matches the skill set of the person I have in mind.
3. I will then reject all the PRs and citizens who apply so that the job is vacant for my person
4. I will tell my person to apply for the job and schedule a Skype interview
5. I will get LMIA for this person and this person can now come to Canada and doesnt even need to show PoF.
6. I have to pay $1000 but it's a small price to pay to have my person with me.

Another possibility:
1. I know someone who is desperate to settle
2. I will charge him money to get LMIA and that's it my pocket.
3. I will pay him the required salary and the tax liability is his. the next day the person will withdraw cash and give me the difference.
4. in my balance sheet, my expenses on wages is higher than it actually is so i can save on corporation tax
5. the desperate person gets a job, I make money on LMIA and save my tax.